We're playing Planechase and on Glimervoid Basin. A player casts Chaos Warp and a player responds by casting Dissipate. How does this resolve assuming he counters the original Chaos Warp?
Edit: I don't know why the card tag isn't showing on Chaos Warp.
The dissipate will be copied and all other spell will have a copy of dissipate target it. Assuming no other actions it will counter everything essentially
First the Basin triggers copies Chaos Warp, and puts many copies onto the stack.
Then the other player responds by targeting Chaos Warp 0.
Because Dissipate has one target, it triggers Basin again, and creates a copy for each other legal target. In this case that means it puts a whole bunch of Dissipates onto the stack, each one tagreting one copy of Chaos Warp.
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I would like to point out that the timing matters: If they respond BEFORE the copy trigger resolves, then Dissipate won't be copied because there will not be any Chaos Warp copies to target, and only Chaos Warp 0 will be countered.
No copies of the chaos warp will resolve so long as nothing else happens, because dissipate was copied for every copy of chaos warp on the stack. So the original chaos is counter by the original dissipate, and every copy of chaos is a legal target for dissipate, so a copy will be made of dissipate for every copy of chaos warp, and counter them all.
Dissipate will not make a copy to counter itself, because it only makes copies to target spells it could legally target, and dissipate is not a legal target for itself, so no copies will be made.
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Whats the big deal about black lotus you ask? Well you see, there is no big deal about it. It IS the big deal.
In guessing that dissipate won't make a copy targeting itself? And will any copies of chaos warp resolve?
The Basin doesn't check for the legality of the copy's targets, only the original spell. This is a corner case where that distinction matters: The original Dissipate cannot target itself (no spell can) therefore no copy will be made for it because Dissipate 0 can't target Dissipate 0, even though all other Dissipates can.
This means that each copy of Chaos Warp will be countered (In an order of the dissipate player's choosing, if it matters.)
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What's the big deal? You could have played multiple Righteous Avengers for years now.
Whenever a player casts an instant or sorcery spell with a single target, he or she copies that spell for each other spell, permanent, card not on the battlefield, and/or player the spell could target.
It also says for each other spell/etc the spell could target. So even if it could target itself, it wouldnt.
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Whats the big deal about black lotus you ask? Well you see, there is no big deal about it. It IS the big deal.
Whenever a player casts an instant or sorcery spell with a single target, he or she copies that spell for each other spell, permanent, card not on the battlefield, and/or player the spell could target.
It also says for each other spell/etc the spell could target. So even if it could target itself, it wouldnt.
Other refers to the original target, not the original spell.
But it's moot. Spells can't target themselves.
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What's the big deal? You could have played multiple Righteous Avengers for years now.
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First the Basin triggers copies Chaos Warp, and puts many copies onto the stack.
Then the other player responds by targeting Chaos Warp 0.
Because Dissipate has one target, it triggers Basin again, and creates a copy for each other legal target. In this case that means it puts a whole bunch of Dissipates onto the stack, each one tagreting one copy of Chaos Warp.
EDIT
I would like to point out that the timing matters: If they respond BEFORE the copy trigger resolves, then Dissipate won't be copied because there will not be any Chaos Warp copies to target, and only Chaos Warp 0 will be countered.
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Dissipate will not make a copy to counter itself, because it only makes copies to target spells it could legally target, and dissipate is not a legal target for itself, so no copies will be made.
The Basin doesn't check for the legality of the copy's targets, only the original spell. This is a corner case where that distinction matters: The original Dissipate cannot target itself (no spell can) therefore no copy will be made for it because Dissipate 0 can't target Dissipate 0, even though all other Dissipates can.
This means that each copy of Chaos Warp will be countered (In an order of the dissipate player's choosing, if it matters.)
It also says for each other spell/etc the spell could target. So even if it could target itself, it wouldnt.
Other refers to the original target, not the original spell.
But it's moot. Spells can't target themselves.