Simple: does exiling (o-ring, selsnya charm) cause "dies" triggered abilities (Death's Presence) {sorry no tags} to trigger?
tl;dr: Last night at a draft, I used the GW charm to exile a large creature with scavenge counters while my opponent had Death's Presence out (when creature dies, put x +1/+1 counters on target creature equal to dead creatures power). They told me exiled creatures go to the grave before exile. I think that sounds moronic but might as well check.
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No. "Dies" is just a shorthand way to say "is put into a graveyard from the battlefield" that only appears on creatures. Exile is not the graveyard, so exiling a creature won't cause any "dies" triggers to trigger.
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Nope, exiling a permanent means it goes from the battlefield to the exile zone. There is no passage through the graveyard. The term "die" means "be put into a graveyard from the battlefield". Death's Presence doesn't trigger.
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tl;dr: Last night at a draft, I used the GW charm to exile a large creature with scavenge counters while my opponent had Death's Presence out (when creature dies, put x +1/+1 counters on target creature equal to dead creatures power). They told me exiled creatures go to the grave before exile. I think that sounds moronic but might as well check.
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