I apologize if I'm missing something here, but Pillar of Flame states "If a creature dealt damage this way would die this turn, exile it instead." Predator Ooze is indestructible, so it won't die due to damage, meaning that it doesn't satisfy the criteria to be exiled. How/why does it still get exiled?
Indestructible only prevents destruction which is specifically defined as lethal damage or a spell/ability that says 'destroy' like doom blade.
A creature can be sent to the graveyard for a number of other reasons like sacrifice effects and having a toughness of 0 which will bypass indestructibility.
if you are forced to sacrifice the predator ooze the same turn it was dealt damage by a pillar of flame it would get exiled instead of being sent to the graveyard.
Edit: The OP is also referring to targeting a creature that was previously damaged by the predator ooze being hit with a pillar of flame as the damaged creature never hits the graveyard and is instead sent to exile the ooze will not see anything to trigger off.
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So if the only cards/effects in play are Predator Ooze targeted by a Pillar of Flame, would the Ooze remain on the battlefield or become exiled? (Assuming it had 1 or less +1/+1 counters on it, of course)
I believe that in this scenario, the Pillar of Flame is being used to exile the creature that the ooze whacked in combat to prevent it from getting a counter, not to try to take out the ooze itself.
So if the only cards/effects in play are Predator Ooze targeted by a Pillar of Flame, would the Ooze remain on the battlefield? (Assuming it had 1 or less +1/+1 counters on it, of course)
Yes. The Predator Ooze will be sitting there as a 1/1 or 2/2 with 2 damage marked on it, but since it is indestructible, it won't die. If someone manages to reduce its toughness below zero or force its controller to sacrifice it, then it will be exiled, but if neither of those things happen, the ooze will just sit there.
I believe that in this scenario, the Pillar of Flame is being used to exile the creature that the ooze whacked in combat to prevent it from getting a counter, not to try to take out the ooze itself.
So if the only cards/effects in play are Predator Ooze targeted by a Pillar of Flame, would the Ooze remain on the battlefield? (Assuming it had 1 or less +1/+1 counters on it, of course)
Even with out the +1/+1 counters the ooze would stay on the battlefield, normal damage is only marked against a creature and does not reduce toughness until it matches/exceeds the toughness which would ordinarily result in the destruction of the creature but as the ooze is indestructible that is just ignored.
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No worries! The original question was a little unclear, and it doesn't hurt to answer it in both scenarios where the ooze is the target and where its victim is the target.
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A creature can be sent to the graveyard for a number of other reasons like sacrifice effects and having a toughness of 0 which will bypass indestructibility.
if you are forced to sacrifice the predator ooze the same turn it was dealt damage by a pillar of flame it would get exiled instead of being sent to the graveyard.
Edit: The OP is also referring to targeting a creature that was previously damaged by the predator ooze being hit with a pillar of flame as the damaged creature never hits the graveyard and is instead sent to exile the ooze will not see anything to trigger off.
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Yes. The Predator Ooze will be sitting there as a 1/1 or 2/2 with 2 damage marked on it, but since it is indestructible, it won't die. If someone manages to reduce its toughness below zero or force its controller to sacrifice it, then it will be exiled, but if neither of those things happen, the ooze will just sit there.
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Oh, I see. That makes sense now. Thanks!
Even with out the +1/+1 counters the ooze would stay on the battlefield, normal damage is only marked against a creature and does not reduce toughness until it matches/exceeds the toughness which would ordinarily result in the destruction of the creature but as the ooze is indestructible that is just ignored.
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No worries! The original question was a little unclear, and it doesn't hurt to answer it in both scenarios where the ooze is the target and where its victim is the target.
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