if i have a two faced creature in a sleeve. well say bloodline keeper for example.
if my opponent asks to see the flipped side of him, can I be an ass and say no???
theres not rule anywhere that says i have to take it out and show him the flip side right?
Other than maybe a judge ordering me to.
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711.1c While a double-faced card is in a public zone, each player may look at both faces. In other zones, each player that is allowed to look at a double-faced card may look at both faces.
The Comprehensive Rules state that while the DFC is in a public zone [the battlefield, exiled face-up, in the graveyard, or if your opponent gets to look at your hand] that ALL players may look at both faces. If your opponent asks "What's the back side of that, again?" you have to oblige him and show him.
It's public knowledge what the card does, so yes, he can see it.
The Oracle text of the card (front side and back) is derived information, not free information. So while your opponent has the right to look at the back of your DFC, you're not required to help him do it. Free information would be uniquely identifying what the card is.
That said, at Regular REL, all derived information is free information, so it depends on the level of the tournament (not specified in the OP). (Regular REL includes things such as FNM and pre/release parties)
I don't really know where you are going with this post. While what you say about the different types of information is overall correct, your application of that principle to DFCs is flawed. Asking to see the back side of a DFC is not asking for oracle text, because there is a game rule (quoted above) that specifically describes how to handle DFCs, and that is all there is to it. If the DFC is in a public zone, then any player has the right to look at either face, regardless of REL. Now in light of that rule, what exactly do you mean by the part of your answer I underlined? Bottom-line: If your opponent asks you to show him the back side of a DFC in play, and you don't comply (for whatever reason) and a judge has to get involved, you are seriously driving towards Slow-Play-Ville, population you.
"Each player may looks at both faces" is the game rule. Each player may look at the other's graveyard, too, but in a tournament above Regular REL you don't have help your opponent know what's in your graveyard, just permit him to look if he wants to know.
This is how I'm interpreting the DFC rule in question. If I ask my opponent what the back side of his Scorned Villager does, he's not obliged to answer if we're not at Regular REL (at Regular, he is obliged). If I asked to see the back side, he must let me see it, either by showing me or by allowing me (this would be "helping me do it") to touch his cards.
"Each player may looks at both faces" is the game rule. Each player may look at the other's graveyard, too, but in a tournament above Regular REL you don't have help your opponent know what's in your graveyard, just permit him to look if he wants to know.
This is how I'm interpreting the DFC rule in question. If I ask my opponent what the back side of his Scorned Villager does, he's not obliged to answer if we're not at Regular REL (at Regular, he is obliged). If I asked to see the back side, he must let me see it, either by showing me or by allowing me (this would be "helping me do it") to touch his cards.
Why would you try to promote people being anti-social during events? If your opponent wants to know what the flip side of a DFC card is, then oblige. It's in the rules, the outcome will always be your opponent finds out what the information is. The attitude that you don't need to help your opponent makes more sense when it comes to strategy and card interaction, but when it comes to information they are permitted to know, non-facilitation just to be an ass seems fruitless.
If I ask my opponent what the back side of his Scorned Villager does, he's not obliged to answer if we're not at Regular REL (at Regular, he is obliged). If I asked to see the back side, he must let me see it, either by showing me or by allowing me (this would be "helping me do it") to touch his cards."
This is false, he is obliged to give you the information. If you ask him, his answer cannot be "I'm not telling you." If you are sitting in your mother's basement playing MTG with him and he refuses to tell you, the consequences aren't as dire, but rules-wise he is still required to make the information available - denying you the information and telling you to get it yourself is just poor sportsmanship.
if my opponent asks to see the flipped side of him, can I be an ass and say no???
theres not rule anywhere that says i have to take it out and show him the flip side right?
Other than maybe a judge ordering me to.
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The Comprehensive Rules state that while the DFC is in a public zone [the battlefield, exiled face-up, in the graveyard, or if your opponent gets to look at your hand] that ALL players may look at both faces. If your opponent asks "What's the back side of that, again?" you have to oblige him and show him.
The latest Comprehensive Rules are also good, and can be found here.
That said, at Regular REL, all derived information is free information, so it depends on the level of the tournament (not specified in the OP). (Regular REL includes things such as FNM and pre/release parties)
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This is how I'm interpreting the DFC rule in question. If I ask my opponent what the back side of his Scorned Villager does, he's not obliged to answer if we're not at Regular REL (at Regular, he is obliged). If I asked to see the back side, he must let me see it, either by showing me or by allowing me (this would be "helping me do it") to touch his cards.
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Why would you try to promote people being anti-social during events? If your opponent wants to know what the flip side of a DFC card is, then oblige. It's in the rules, the outcome will always be your opponent finds out what the information is. The attitude that you don't need to help your opponent makes more sense when it comes to strategy and card interaction, but when it comes to information they are permitted to know, non-facilitation just to be an ass seems fruitless.
This is false, he is obliged to give you the information. If you ask him, his answer cannot be "I'm not telling you." If you are sitting in your mother's basement playing MTG with him and he refuses to tell you, the consequences aren't as dire, but rules-wise he is still required to make the information available - denying you the information and telling you to get it yourself is just poor sportsmanship.