The situation was that someone dropped a wrath effect. What happens to the clone creatures as I know they trigger persist but my thoughts are that there is no creatures in play for them to copy as the primus isn't back in play yet or can I stack the persists so that the Primus returns first and still allow them to copy him?
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Persist is a triggered ability, while "Clone-like" effects are a replacement effect. When the three persist triggers trigger, you'll choose the order in which to put them on the stack. If you put the triggers on the stack with Woodfall Primus's last, it'll enter the battlefield before your "Clone"s, and their replacement effects will be able to find it and copy it.
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Persist is a trigger and when something like a wrath effect goes off, all the triggers trigger at the same time. You are free to order them however you so choose, so you can have the primus enter first, and then your clone enter after the primus has already returned. Keep in mind that the clone was brought back with persist and no matter what it copies, it will have the -1/-1 counter
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The situation was that someone dropped a wrath effect. What happens to the clone creatures as I know they trigger persist but my thoughts are that there is no creatures in play for them to copy as the primus isn't back in play yet or can I stack the persists so that the Primus returns first and still allow them to copy him?
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