If enemy casts Brainstorm, then I flash in Notion Thief to respond, then after Notion Thief resolves on the field...they respond Darkblast/remove Notion Thief, does Notion Thief make them skip their draw?
Same scenario. But without Darkblast involved. Does Notion Thief make them whiff all 3 draws and then you only draw 1? Does Brainstorm still force them to place 2 cards from their hand on top of their deck?
Is Notion Thief's ability a trigger? So it triggers x number of times equal to x times the number of cards opponent would draw? Or is it a static ability?
Reprints the one card that people point to when saying that art objectifies women.
Well done Wizards.
Liliana does not objectify women in any way at all. We have gotten to a point in our society that every single picture of a women must be objectifying a women in some negative way......blah blah blah.. That is not the case. (((Sarcasm)))Picture of a girl drinking a milk shake, must be sex related and putting women down, picture of girl sitting on a beach, picture of a girl driving a car, picture of a girl on the moon at a new space station.)))
You have a picture of an attractive strong power women who girls dress up as for anime conventions. What more do you want? The picture is fine, happy to see a reprint. Sick of of seeing people claim that everything in existence must be putting women down. Then all I have to do is replace the word "women" with anything else to get the same mentality; fish, cats, arabs, blacks, jews, men, environment, whites, chinese, old people, etc. It doesn't matter what word I put in. Stop sucking life out of everything man. That artwork of her is awesome. Stop putting stuff down man. Just stop. If the picture was really as negative as you claim she would totally nude, in a kitchen, making sandwiches and giving blow jobs. Her abilities would be horrible as well. +1 do nothing -2 do nothing -6 do nothing. Instead liliana of the veil is an amazing planeswalker comparable to jace, the mind sculpter with great art to appreciate.
My suggestion listen to some comedy radio for a while, pandora is free, youtube is free there is something out there for you. ***** go make fun of somebody. The whole world is so serious and campaigning for some cause, or someones rights, everything is a hate crime, racist, sexist. blah blah blah.
"O no mcdonalds must be slandering a hate crime against skinny people every time they make a big mac." hahaha jeeze You're just someone perpetuating another groups negative perspective that they've made you believe is correct. Look at the picture for a hour and tell me what's wrong with it? I don't see anything.
I have heard vague rumors of a moustache-dispensing vending machine in a distant laundromat, across the street from a tattoo parlor. However, this information is shaky, and time is of the essence.
Notion Thief has a static replacement effect that does not use the stack. If they kill the Thief before the draw spell resolves, it won't be in play for its replacement effect to apply, so they will get to draw.
If it is still in play, all three of their draws will be replaced, but the rest of the card will be unchanged, so you will draw three and then they will put two cards back on top.
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If your question is "What would a judge do is this situation?", only one person's answer is relevant, and that is the Head Judge at your event. I can quote the rules, but I don't know your HJ.
Notion Thief has a static replacement effect that does not use the stack. If they kill the Thief before the draw spell resolves, it won't be in play for its replacement effect to apply, so they will get to draw.
If it is still in play, all three of their draws will be replaced, but the rest of the card will be unchanged, so you will draw three and then they will put two cards back on top.
Hold on. So it blanks all 3 draws and you draw 3 cards? Some people told me that it was only one...
And that last part is true too? They have to place 2 back on top?
If that's the case, definitely gonna pick some up.
Also, what's the deal with the ruling on two Notion Thieves on both sides of the field? Why don't the replacement effects go on forever?
And what happens if you control more than 1 Notion Thief on the field? Anything noteworthy?
Reprints the one card that people point to when saying that art objectifies women.
Well done Wizards.
Liliana does not objectify women in any way at all. We have gotten to a point in our society that every single picture of a women must be objectifying a women in some negative way......blah blah blah.. That is not the case. (((Sarcasm)))Picture of a girl drinking a milk shake, must be sex related and putting women down, picture of girl sitting on a beach, picture of a girl driving a car, picture of a girl on the moon at a new space station.)))
You have a picture of an attractive strong power women who girls dress up as for anime conventions. What more do you want? The picture is fine, happy to see a reprint. Sick of of seeing people claim that everything in existence must be putting women down. Then all I have to do is replace the word "women" with anything else to get the same mentality; fish, cats, arabs, blacks, jews, men, environment, whites, chinese, old people, etc. It doesn't matter what word I put in. Stop sucking life out of everything man. That artwork of her is awesome. Stop putting stuff down man. Just stop. If the picture was really as negative as you claim she would totally nude, in a kitchen, making sandwiches and giving blow jobs. Her abilities would be horrible as well. +1 do nothing -2 do nothing -6 do nothing. Instead liliana of the veil is an amazing planeswalker comparable to jace, the mind sculpter with great art to appreciate.
My suggestion listen to some comedy radio for a while, pandora is free, youtube is free there is something out there for you. ***** go make fun of somebody. The whole world is so serious and campaigning for some cause, or someones rights, everything is a hate crime, racist, sexist. blah blah blah.
"O no mcdonalds must be slandering a hate crime against skinny people every time they make a big mac." hahaha jeeze You're just someone perpetuating another groups negative perspective that they've made you believe is correct. Look at the picture for a hour and tell me what's wrong with it? I don't see anything.
I have heard vague rumors of a moustache-dispensing vending machine in a distant laundromat, across the street from a tattoo parlor. However, this information is shaky, and time is of the essence.
The Thief replaces all draw that an opponent would get (except for the one they normally get during their draw step). If I cast a Concentrate and you cast the Thief in response, the Thief will replace all three of the draws, so you'll draw three cards and I'll draw nothing.
If I cast a Brainstorm instead, then you would draw three cards, then I would put two cards from my hand on top of my library (if I only have one card, then that card is put on top).
A replacement effect can only replace an event once. So if we both have Thieves and I would draw a card, your Thief replaces that draw with you drawing, then my Thief replaces that draw with me drawing. Since your Thief has already applied to that draw, it doesn't get a chance to apply again, so we'll draw cards like normal.
Nothing special happens if a player controls two or more Thieves. They both have replacement effects, so only one will get to apply to the draw. The other will do nothing.
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Scientists have calculated that the chance of anything so patently absurd actually existing are millions to one. But magicians have calculated that million-to-one chances crop up nine times out of ten.
A given replacement effect can only replace an event once.
EVENT: Player A is going to draw an extra card
REPLACEMENT: Notion Thief 1
REPLACEMENT: Notion Thief 2
NT1 replaces the event. Then, unless NT1 and NT2 are controlled by the same player, NT2's replacement is still valid, so NT2 replaces the event. The draw from NT2's controller is still the same event (despite the draw going to a different player), so NT1 can't replace it.
And what happens if you control more than 1 Notion Thief on the field? Anything noteworthy?
Your first thief replaces the event. Since you are not your own opponent (not matter how poorly you play), your second thief's replacement effect is invalidated, and does nothing.
Note that even if NT didn't say "opponent", you would still only draw 1 card per draw replaced. NT1 would replace the draw, and NT2 would overwrite NT1.
As long as you control a Notion Thief when the brainstorm resolves and they don't, then yes. You will draw 3 and your opponent will put 2 cards back on the top of their library.
As for both players having a Notion Thief: each ability can only modify an event once. Using the brainstorm example: Yours would modify it for you to draw 3, but then their's will modify it so they draw 3. The end result is that the person who would originally draw the card does.
Having 2 Thieves on your side of the field has the same effect as having only 1.
How does Notion Thief interact with an opponent's Brainstorm/draw, when they intend to use Dredge instead?
Like, opponent casts Brainstorm, then in response I drop Notion Thief. How does this interact with Dredge and say, Darkblast? Since opponent is control of Brainstorm, he can choose to replace his first? By replacing the first draw with Dredge 3, recurs Darkblast to hand (too bad he can't cast Darkblast right here to kill Thief. haha), then the next two draws, if not replaced by something, will be replaced by Notion Thief's effect? How do you know who gets to replace first?
Reprints the one card that people point to when saying that art objectifies women.
Well done Wizards.
Liliana does not objectify women in any way at all. We have gotten to a point in our society that every single picture of a women must be objectifying a women in some negative way......blah blah blah.. That is not the case. (((Sarcasm)))Picture of a girl drinking a milk shake, must be sex related and putting women down, picture of girl sitting on a beach, picture of a girl driving a car, picture of a girl on the moon at a new space station.)))
You have a picture of an attractive strong power women who girls dress up as for anime conventions. What more do you want? The picture is fine, happy to see a reprint. Sick of of seeing people claim that everything in existence must be putting women down. Then all I have to do is replace the word "women" with anything else to get the same mentality; fish, cats, arabs, blacks, jews, men, environment, whites, chinese, old people, etc. It doesn't matter what word I put in. Stop sucking life out of everything man. That artwork of her is awesome. Stop putting stuff down man. Just stop. If the picture was really as negative as you claim she would totally nude, in a kitchen, making sandwiches and giving blow jobs. Her abilities would be horrible as well. +1 do nothing -2 do nothing -6 do nothing. Instead liliana of the veil is an amazing planeswalker comparable to jace, the mind sculpter with great art to appreciate.
My suggestion listen to some comedy radio for a while, pandora is free, youtube is free there is something out there for you. ***** go make fun of somebody. The whole world is so serious and campaigning for some cause, or someones rights, everything is a hate crime, racist, sexist. blah blah blah.
"O no mcdonalds must be slandering a hate crime against skinny people every time they make a big mac." hahaha jeeze You're just someone perpetuating another groups negative perspective that they've made you believe is correct. Look at the picture for a hour and tell me what's wrong with it? I don't see anything.
I have heard vague rumors of a moustache-dispensing vending machine in a distant laundromat, across the street from a tattoo parlor. However, this information is shaky, and time is of the essence.
How does Notion Thief interact with an opponent's Brainstorm/draw, when they intend to use Dredge instead?
Like, opponent casts Brainstorm, then in response I drop Notion Thief. How does this interact with Dredge and say, Darkblast? Since opponent is control of Brainstorm, he can choose to replace his first? By replacing the first draw with Dredge 3, recurs Darkblast to hand (too bad he can't cast Darkblast right here to kill Thief. haha), then the next two draws, if not replaced by something, will be replaced by Notion Thief's effect? How do you know who gets to replace first?
The affected player, or the controller (or owner if it has no controller) of the affected permanent gets to decide which replacement effect to apply first.
Your opponent can choose to replace the draws with dredging first. Since there will no longer be a draw event, the Notion Thief's replacement effect simply won't apply.
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You just draw normally. They cancel each other out, basically.
You cast think twice. Opponent's Thief would try to replace think twice, and now, he's about to draw, then your thief replaces his draw with you drawing a card.
Basically cancels out, as replacement effects can't apply more than once.
Reprints the one card that people point to when saying that art objectifies women.
Well done Wizards.
Liliana does not objectify women in any way at all. We have gotten to a point in our society that every single picture of a women must be objectifying a women in some negative way......blah blah blah.. That is not the case. (((Sarcasm)))Picture of a girl drinking a milk shake, must be sex related and putting women down, picture of girl sitting on a beach, picture of a girl driving a car, picture of a girl on the moon at a new space station.)))
You have a picture of an attractive strong power women who girls dress up as for anime conventions. What more do you want? The picture is fine, happy to see a reprint. Sick of of seeing people claim that everything in existence must be putting women down. Then all I have to do is replace the word "women" with anything else to get the same mentality; fish, cats, arabs, blacks, jews, men, environment, whites, chinese, old people, etc. It doesn't matter what word I put in. Stop sucking life out of everything man. That artwork of her is awesome. Stop putting stuff down man. Just stop. If the picture was really as negative as you claim she would totally nude, in a kitchen, making sandwiches and giving blow jobs. Her abilities would be horrible as well. +1 do nothing -2 do nothing -6 do nothing. Instead liliana of the veil is an amazing planeswalker comparable to jace, the mind sculpter with great art to appreciate.
My suggestion listen to some comedy radio for a while, pandora is free, youtube is free there is something out there for you. ***** go make fun of somebody. The whole world is so serious and campaigning for some cause, or someones rights, everything is a hate crime, racist, sexist. blah blah blah.
"O no mcdonalds must be slandering a hate crime against skinny people every time they make a big mac." hahaha jeeze You're just someone perpetuating another groups negative perspective that they've made you believe is correct. Look at the picture for a hour and tell me what's wrong with it? I don't see anything.
I have heard vague rumors of a moustache-dispensing vending machine in a distant laundromat, across the street from a tattoo parlor. However, this information is shaky, and time is of the essence.
Same scenario. But without Darkblast involved. Does Notion Thief make them whiff all 3 draws and then you only draw 1? Does Brainstorm still force them to place 2 cards from their hand on top of their deck?
Is Notion Thief's ability a trigger? So it triggers x number of times equal to x times the number of cards opponent would draw? Or is it a static ability?
If it is still in play, all three of their draws will be replaced, but the rest of the card will be unchanged, so you will draw three and then they will put two cards back on top.
If your question is "What would a judge do is this situation?", only one person's answer is relevant, and that is the Head Judge at your event. I can quote the rules, but I don't know your HJ.
Hold on. So it blanks all 3 draws and you draw 3 cards? Some people told me that it was only one...
And that last part is true too? They have to place 2 back on top?
If that's the case, definitely gonna pick some up.
Also, what's the deal with the ruling on two Notion Thieves on both sides of the field? Why don't the replacement effects go on forever?
And what happens if you control more than 1 Notion Thief on the field? Anything noteworthy?
If I cast a Brainstorm instead, then you would draw three cards, then I would put two cards from my hand on top of my library (if I only have one card, then that card is put on top).
A replacement effect can only replace an event once. So if we both have Thieves and I would draw a card, your Thief replaces that draw with you drawing, then my Thief replaces that draw with me drawing. Since your Thief has already applied to that draw, it doesn't get a chance to apply again, so we'll draw cards like normal.
Nothing special happens if a player controls two or more Thieves. They both have replacement effects, so only one will get to apply to the draw. The other will do nothing.
Scientists have calculated that the chance of anything so patently absurd actually existing are millions to one. But magicians have calculated that million-to-one chances crop up nine times out of ten.
EVENT: Player A is going to draw an extra card
REPLACEMENT: Notion Thief 1
REPLACEMENT: Notion Thief 2
NT1 replaces the event. Then, unless NT1 and NT2 are controlled by the same player, NT2's replacement is still valid, so NT2 replaces the event. The draw from NT2's controller is still the same event (despite the draw going to a different player), so NT1 can't replace it.
Your first thief replaces the event. Since you are not your own opponent (not matter how poorly you play), your second thief's replacement effect is invalidated, and does nothing.
Note that even if NT didn't say "opponent", you would still only draw 1 card per draw replaced. NT1 would replace the draw, and NT2 would overwrite NT1.
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As for both players having a Notion Thief: each ability can only modify an event once. Using the brainstorm example: Yours would modify it for you to draw 3, but then their's will modify it so they draw 3. The end result is that the person who would originally draw the card does.
Having 2 Thieves on your side of the field has the same effect as having only 1.
Like, opponent casts Brainstorm, then in response I drop Notion Thief. How does this interact with Dredge and say, Darkblast? Since opponent is control of Brainstorm, he can choose to replace his first? By replacing the first draw with Dredge 3, recurs Darkblast to hand (too bad he can't cast Darkblast right here to kill Thief. haha), then the next two draws, if not replaced by something, will be replaced by Notion Thief's effect? How do you know who gets to replace first?
The affected player, or the controller (or owner if it has no controller) of the affected permanent gets to decide which replacement effect to apply first.
Your opponent can choose to replace the draws with dredging first. Since there will no longer be a draw event, the Notion Thief's replacement effect simply won't apply.
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Modern:
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Legacy:
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You just draw normally. They cancel each other out, basically.
You cast think twice. Opponent's Thief would try to replace think twice, and now, he's about to draw, then your thief replaces his draw with you drawing a card.
Basically cancels out, as replacement effects can't apply more than once.