I have Dennick, Pious Apparition in play, and my opponent plays Kalitas, Traitor of Ghet. What happens if opponent kills any of my other creatures? Do I get to investigate? Or does Kalitas’ ability prevents me from doing so, as my creature didn’t die but was exiled instead?
In another scenario with Dennick, Pious Apparition, what happens if it dies? Do I investigate, or not? My feeling is that I won’t get the clue, but I would like to understand how it is different from Kalitas, Traitor of Ghet’s ability. If I’m not mistaken, when Kalitas dies at the same time as some of my creatures (by trading in combat, for example), opponent gets that many 2/2 zombie tokens. Why do they get the tokens, while I won’t get the Clues?
A creature that would die, but is exiled instead, doesn't go to the graveyard (C.R. 700.4, 614.6).
Notably, Dennick's second ability won't trigger if a creature is exiled, even if that creature would otherwise go to the graveyard.
If Dennick leaves the battlefield at the same time as one or more creature cards go to a graveyard, Dennick's second ability won't trigger. This is because it cares whether certain cards go to a graveyard "from anywhere", so it's not a leaves-the-battlefield ability (and not otherwise an exception to C.R. 603.10), so that it checks the state of the game after the event, and not before (C.R. 603.10, 603.10a, 603.6c). With respect to Kalitas, see also:
Kalitas' difference from Dennick isn't that it is not "not a leaves the battlefield ability", but that it is an ability creating a replacement effect. Leaves-the-battlefield abilities are a class of triggered abilities. Kalitas gets to apply because it applies before it leaves the battlefield. Dennick does not because, as a triggered ability, it can only apply after the event - in which it leaves the battlefield, and doesn't apply for that reason.
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In another scenario with Dennick, Pious Apparition, what happens if it dies? Do I investigate, or not? My feeling is that I won’t get the clue, but I would like to understand how it is different from Kalitas, Traitor of Ghet’s ability. If I’m not mistaken, when Kalitas dies at the same time as some of my creatures (by trading in combat, for example), opponent gets that many 2/2 zombie tokens. Why do they get the tokens, while I won’t get the Clues?
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Notably, Dennick's second ability won't trigger if a creature is exiled, even if that creature would otherwise go to the graveyard.
If Dennick leaves the battlefield at the same time as one or more creature cards go to a graveyard, Dennick's second ability won't trigger. This is because it cares whether certain cards go to a graveyard "from anywhere", so it's not a leaves-the-battlefield ability (and not otherwise an exception to C.R. 603.10), so that it checks the state of the game after the event, and not before (C.R. 603.10, 603.10a, 603.6c). With respect to Kalitas, see also:
- https://www.mtgsalvation.com/forums/magic-fundamentals/magic-rulings/789423-anafenza-question
Kalitas' difference from Dennick isn't that it is not "not a leaves the battlefield ability", but that it is an ability creating a replacement effect. Leaves-the-battlefield abilities are a class of triggered abilities. Kalitas gets to apply because it applies before it leaves the battlefield. Dennick does not because, as a triggered ability, it can only apply after the event - in which it leaves the battlefield, and doesn't apply for that reason.
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