Hello I do have some questions about the sequencing of cards with text including "Sacrifice it [a card] at the beginning of the next end step" and effects that trigger at the beginning of the end step.
The following example should clarify this:
This turn I played Hungry for more which creates a creature token that gets sacrificed at the beginning of the next end step. I also have a card with the following effect on the field: "At the beginning of the end step you may sacrifice...", like Ziatora, the Incinerator.
1. Will the effect of Hungry for More be placed on the stack at all during the end step?
2. Is there a ruling that makes optional triggered abilities always be placed after mandatory triggered abilities on the stack?
3. Is it possible to sacrifice the token creature with Ziatora's effect before it gets sacrificed by Hungry for More?
1) All "at the beginning of the end step" triggers go off at once and are placed on the stack at the same time. All triggers controlled by one player, then all triggers from the next player, and so on, beginning with the active player then going in turn order. Resolving a trigger may then cause other triggers on the stack to not be able to do anything anymore, but that is irrelevant for the triggering. A trigger that can't do anything on resolution then simply does nothing.
2) Wether a trigger contains optional or mandatory instructions is also irrelevant. If a choice is nessessary, that choice is made on resolution of the trigger (except for modes, targets, and distributions among targets, which are chosen when the trigger is put on the stack). Meaning, any "may" triggers are always put on the stack wether you want to execute the option or not.
3) Yes. Just put Ziatora's trigger on top of the delayed trigger from Hungry for More.
1) All "at the beginning of the end step" triggers go off at once and are placed on the stack at the same time. All triggers controlled by one player, then all triggers from the next player, and so on, beginning with the active player then going in turn order. Resolving a trigger may then cause other triggers on the stack to not be able to do anything anymore, but that is irrelevant for the triggering. A trigger that can't do anything on resolution then simply does nothing.
Ok so the last part of Hungry for More is not a state-based-action but it gets triggered like usual triggered abilities? So the player can place them on the stack in any order as preferred.
1) All "at the beginning of the end step" triggers go off at once and are placed on the stack at the same time. All triggers controlled by one player, then all triggers from the next player, and so on, beginning with the active player then going in turn order. Resolving a trigger may then cause other triggers on the stack to not be able to do anything anymore, but that is irrelevant for the triggering. A trigger that can't do anything on resolution then simply does nothing.
Ok so the last part of Hungry for More is not a state-based-action but it gets triggered like usual triggered abilities? So the player can place them on the stack in any order as preferred.
The last part creates a delayed trigger. When the trigger even occurs (in this case starting the end step) the trigger will happen and if anything else triggers at the same time they can be stacked as desired.
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The following example should clarify this:
This turn I played Hungry for more which creates a creature token that gets sacrificed at the beginning of the next end step. I also have a card with the following effect on the field: "At the beginning of the end step you may sacrifice...", like Ziatora, the Incinerator.
1. Will the effect of Hungry for More be placed on the stack at all during the end step?
2. Is there a ruling that makes optional triggered abilities always be placed after mandatory triggered abilities on the stack?
3. Is it possible to sacrifice the token creature with Ziatora's effect before it gets sacrificed by Hungry for More?
2) Wether a trigger contains optional or mandatory instructions is also irrelevant. If a choice is nessessary, that choice is made on resolution of the trigger (except for modes, targets, and distributions among targets, which are chosen when the trigger is put on the stack). Meaning, any "may" triggers are always put on the stack wether you want to execute the option or not.
3) Yes. Just put Ziatora's trigger on top of the delayed trigger from Hungry for More.
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Ok so the last part of Hungry for More is not a state-based-action but it gets triggered like usual triggered abilities? So the player can place them on the stack in any order as preferred.
The last part creates a delayed trigger. When the trigger even occurs (in this case starting the end step) the trigger will happen and if anything else triggers at the same time they can be stacked as desired.