I just built a mono-red Dragon's Approach EDH deck and included both Spellweaver Helix and Pyromancer Ascension. While 2 Dragon's Approaches are imprinted onto Spellweaver Helix, Pyromancer Ascension is "online," and you cast a Dragon's Approach (while another is in your graveyard) they (Spell-helix & Ascension) don't infinitely feedback on each other, right?
I searched the revised oracle text for these cards, on Scryfall (assuming the Oracle text is accurate). Spellweaver Helix (revised) specifically states "whenever a player casts a card." If I go by the mantra of Read-The-F**king-Card, then Helix and Ascension don't trigger each other.
I'm not mistaken here, right?
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I just built a mono-red Dragon's Approach EDH deck and included both Spellweaver Helix and Pyromancer Ascension. While 2 Dragon's Approaches are imprinted onto Spellweaver Helix, Pyromancer Ascension is "online," and you cast a Dragon's Approach (while another is in your graveyard) they (Spell-helix & Ascension) don't infinitely feedback on each other, right?
I searched the revised oracle text for these cards, on Scryfall (assuming the Oracle text is accurate). Spellweaver Helix (revised) specifically states "whenever a player casts a card." If I go by the mantra of Read-The-F**king-Card, then Helix and Ascension don't trigger each other.
I'm not mistaken here, right?
Pyromancer Ascension triggers for a spell cast, even if it is a copy, so Helix's copy can make the Ascension trigger. But the copy the enchantment creates isn't cast but created directly on the stack. Spellweaver Helix doesn't trigger if the spell you cast is not represented by a card, so copies, even if cast, don't trigger it. So there are two reasons why the Ascesion's copy doesn't trigger the Helix.
I searched the revised oracle text for these cards, on Scryfall (assuming the Oracle text is accurate). Spellweaver Helix (revised) specifically states "whenever a player casts a card." If I go by the mantra of Read-The-F**king-Card, then Helix and Ascension don't trigger each other.
I'm not mistaken here, right?
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Pyromancer Ascension triggers for a spell cast, even if it is a copy, so Helix's copy can make the Ascension trigger. But the copy the enchantment creates isn't cast but created directly on the stack. Spellweaver Helix doesn't trigger if the spell you cast is not represented by a card, so copies, even if cast, don't trigger it. So there are two reasons why the Ascesion's copy doesn't trigger the Helix.
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