Hi friendly people!
Imagine I have in play Reconnaissance and attack with Mangara of Corondor, it becomes an attacking creature and a valid target for Reconnaissance's 0 ability, I know I can activate the ability, hold priority and activate it again... and again and again.
But can I re-activate Reconnaissance's 0 ability once the creature has been untaped&removed from combat?
I don't think so, if that were possible it would be busted, one could abuse it as follows:
Reconnaissance's 0 ability resolves and untaps Mangara, then I activate Mangara's ability, hold priority and use Reconnaissance's 0 ability again to untap; Then repeat Mangara's ability, so at the end we would have N Mangara's abilities on the stack on Mangara would go taking all permanent's targeted. But I guess Mangara can't be targeted after the first time it's removed from combat. Please confirm, and if possible pitch options to abuse.
Only the first activation of Reconnaissance targeting Mangara to resolve has a legal target, the others are then targeting a nonattacking creature (and thus an illegal target) and will do nothing when they resolve due to this. New activations cannot target Mangara either since it is not an attacking creature anymore.
Hi Rezzagan.
I thought so, but the way you replied then made me think that it wouldn't work with Vona, Butcher of Magan and I thought it could work that way.
In this case my idea was to
1. Attack with Vona.
2. Activate Vona's Ability (let it resolve, whatever)
3. Activate Reconnaissance's 0 ability, 2 times.
4. Let the top 0 ability resolve.
5. Then activate Vona's Ability again (let it resolve)
6. Then the bottom 0 ability resolve to endup with an untapped Vona.
But from what you said, the step 6 wouldn't resolve (it would fizzle)... because Vona WAS a legal target, but by the resolution time it stopped being a legal target. So Vona would end up tapped.
Then I guess the smart thing to do is wait after doing the 4 damage to untap. And activate only once.
I think I understand now. Thanks!
Yes, with Vona you can deal 4 combat damage and destroy up to two permanents with the ability. The key to do this is to wait with the activations until after combat damage has been dealt, so until the combat damage step or even the end of combat step.
Imagine I have in play Reconnaissance and attack with Mangara of Corondor, it becomes an attacking creature and a valid target for Reconnaissance's 0 ability, I know I can activate the ability, hold priority and activate it again... and again and again.
But can I re-activate Reconnaissance's 0 ability once the creature has been untaped&removed from combat?
I don't think so, if that were possible it would be busted, one could abuse it as follows:
Reconnaissance's 0 ability resolves and untaps Mangara, then I activate Mangara's ability, hold priority and use Reconnaissance's 0 ability again to untap; Then repeat Mangara's ability, so at the end we would have N Mangara's abilities on the stack on Mangara would go taking all permanent's targeted. But I guess Mangara can't be targeted after the first time it's removed from combat. Please confirm, and if possible pitch options to abuse.
Former Rules Advisor
"Everything's better with pirates." - Lodge
(The Gamers: Dorkness Rising)
"Any sufficiently analyzed magic is indistinguishable from science."
(Girl Genius - Fairy Tale Theater Break - Cinderella, end of volume 8)
I thought so, but the way you replied then made me think that it wouldn't work with Vona, Butcher of Magan and I thought it could work that way.
In this case my idea was to
1. Attack with Vona.
2. Activate Vona's Ability (let it resolve, whatever)
3. Activate Reconnaissance's 0 ability, 2 times.
4. Let the top 0 ability resolve.
5. Then activate Vona's Ability again (let it resolve)
6. Then the bottom 0 ability resolve to endup with an untapped Vona.
But from what you said, the step 6 wouldn't resolve (it would fizzle)... because Vona WAS a legal target, but by the resolution time it stopped being a legal target. So Vona would end up tapped.
Then I guess the smart thing to do is wait after doing the 4 damage to untap. And activate only once.
I think I understand now. Thanks!
Former Rules Advisor
"Everything's better with pirates." - Lodge
(The Gamers: Dorkness Rising)
"Any sufficiently analyzed magic is indistinguishable from science."
(Girl Genius - Fairy Tale Theater Break - Cinderella, end of volume 8)