If you have both cards in your hand can you cast both to draw any cards, or is does one with nothing always make you discard the other before you draw the cards? Ie can you discard your hand, in response draw some cards. So in effect discard to 0, then draw back up?
If you have both cards in your hand can you cast both to draw any cards, or is does one with nothing always make you discard the other before you draw the cards? Ie can you discard your hand, in response draw some cards. So in effect discard to 0, then draw back up?
I don't see how this could work. Possible sequence:
Your main phase begins.
You get priority and cast Dream Salvage. You choose an opponent as the target and pay the cost by spending either U or B obtained in an unspecified way.
You get priority and cast One with Nothing. You pay the cost by spending B obtained in an unspecified way.
You get priority and pass.
Opponent gets priority and passes.
The top object on the stack (the spell cast in step 3) resolves. You discard your hand. For the sake of definiteness, I'll say you had 3 cards left at this point. (Maybe they were already in your hand at the start of the main phase. Maybe you actually responded to One with Nothing with something to draw a card or two.)
You get priority and pass.
Opponent gets priority and passes.
The top object on the stack (the spell cast in step 2) resolves. The targeted opponent has not discarded anything this turn (that I can see), so you draw nothing.
I'm not sure what this combo is supposed to do, either.
Your main phase begins.
You get priority and cast Shadow of the Grave. You pay the cost of 1B by spending mana obtained in an unspecified way.
You get priority and cast One with Nothing. You pay the cost by spending B obtained in an unspecified way.
You get priority and pass.
Opponent gets priority and passes.
The top object on the stack (the spell cast in step 3) resolves. You discard your hand. For the sake of definiteness, I'll say you had 3 cards left at this point. (Maybe they were already in your hand at the start of the main phase. Maybe you actually responded to One with Nothing with something to draw a card or two.)
You get priority and pass.
Opponent gets priority and passes.
The top object on the stack (the spell cast in step 2) resolves. The specific 3 cards you discarded in step 6 are returned from your graveyard back to your hand.
You get priority and ....
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Why bother with mere rulings when so many answers can be found in the Rules?
Ie can you discard your hand, in response draw some cards. So in effect discard to 0, then draw back up? one with nothing + shadow of the grave
Dream Salvage doesn't work because it has to target an opponent.
Shadow of the Grave can do the trick; you'll discard some cards, then return them from grave to hand.
Basically, you spent two cards (Shadow of the Grave and One with Nothing) and three mana, for nothing. Let's hope it was worth it!
Of course, you have to cast Shadow of the Grave first, then respond to it with One with Nothing. That way, you'll discard everything, and then return the cards. If you cast the spells in the reverse order, you'll first return cards, then discard everything.
Thanks for all the replies. Shadow of the grave and one with nothing, to discard your hand and draw that many cards is what I was hoping for, though carefully reading the replies I see that it returns the cards to hand instead, which is superior in some ways and worse in some ways.
Mainly I was just curious.
I missed that dream salvage only works with opponents.
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one with nothing + dream salvage
Same with shadow of the grave
one with nothing + shadow of the grave
I don't see how this could work. Possible sequence:
I'm not sure what this combo is supposed to do, either.
Shadow of the Grave can do the trick; you'll discard some cards, then return them from grave to hand.
Basically, you spent two cards (Shadow of the Grave and One with Nothing) and three mana, for nothing. Let's hope it was worth it!
Of course, if you had, say, Wharf Infiltrator on the field...
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Mainly I was just curious.
I missed that dream salvage only works with opponents.