They each have an ability that says: When this creature dies, return it to it's owner's hand at the beginning of the next end-step.
I want to know, this is an ability that triggers when it is in the graveyard after dying, so by this time, all parts of the creature mutated onto it have become separate, or do they all return, seeing as the creature, before it died, had that ability?
Yes, all of the cards will return to your hand at the beginning of the next end step. The God's ability triggers based on the existence of the permanent with it on the battlefield, and it tracks in the graveyard all of the cards that were that permanent. Any of them that are still in the graveyard by the time the delayed trigger resolves during the end step return to your hand.
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WOW! Thank you! That's absolutely awesome! I was just unsure about the way triggers resolved and whether the fact that all parts separate in the graveyard would affect what cards return to my hand.
Thank you very much!
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Strictly speaking, the ability triggers when the mutated cards hit the graveyard, at which time only the God-card actually has the ability.
However, an ability that trigger 'when a creature dies' is called a 'leaves-the-battlefield ability' (rule 603.6c), and this kind of ability has the privilege of 'looking back in time' to establish which cards are affected (rule 603.10a).
603.6c Leaves-the-battlefield abilities trigger when a permanent moves from the battlefield to another zone (…)
603.10a Some zone-change triggers look back in time. These are leaves-the-battlefield abilities, (…)
FYI
Strictly speaking, the ability triggers when the mutated cards hit the graveyard, at which time only the God-card actually has the ability.
However, an ability that trigger 'when a creature dies' is called a 'leaves-the-battlefield ability' (rule 603.6c), and this kind of ability has the privilege of 'looking back in time' to establish which cards are affected (rule 603.10a).
603.6c Leaves-the-battlefield abilities trigger when a permanent moves from the battlefield to another zone (…)
603.10a Some zone-change triggers look back in time. These are leaves-the-battlefield abilities, (…)
Actually Wizards' official language on LTB abilities are that they trigger from the battlefield, not the graveyard (or other zone). See the wording of the Oracle rulings on Yixlid Jailer.
Hmmm, that's interesting. As i say, the main issue I was having is the fact that the ability to return the god from your graveyard to your hand only occurs if it dies, which, in mutate terms, results in all parts separating, but since the creature, before dying, had the ability, I was a bit confused as to how that plays out.
Thank you for the help!
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They each have an ability that says: When this creature dies, return it to it's owner's hand at the beginning of the next end-step.
I want to know, this is an ability that triggers when it is in the graveyard after dying, so by this time, all parts of the creature mutated onto it have become separate, or do they all return, seeing as the creature, before it died, had that ability?
my example: I mutate Chittering Harvester onto The Scorpion God, I attack and it dies. all parts of the creature, so both the Chittering Harvester and The Scorpion God go to my graveyard. Do both return to my hand because when it died, it had that ability?
Dragons are best creature type
WBRG Best control deck is non-blue Yorion Doom WBRG
Thank you very much!
Dragons are best creature type
WBRG Best control deck is non-blue Yorion Doom WBRG
Strictly speaking, the ability triggers when the mutated cards hit the graveyard, at which time only the God-card actually has the ability.
However, an ability that trigger 'when a creature dies' is called a 'leaves-the-battlefield ability' (rule 603.6c), and this kind of ability has the privilege of 'looking back in time' to establish which cards are affected (rule 603.10a).
603.10a Some zone-change triggers look back in time. These are leaves-the-battlefield abilities, (…)
RULES OF MAGIC :
http://magic.wizards.com/en/game-info/gameplay/rules-and-formats/rules
Actually Wizards' official language on LTB abilities are that they trigger from the battlefield, not the graveyard (or other zone). See the wording of the Oracle rulings on Yixlid Jailer.
Thank you for the help!
Dragons are best creature type
WBRG Best control deck is non-blue Yorion Doom WBRG