Fun idea I had that I want to make sure works first.
Say I have two Soulherder on the board and a Reflector Mage. I move to my end step and both Soulherders abilities go on the stack. Can I target my Reflector Mage twice and get two bounce affects?
I believe so, since the Soulherder abilities resolve independently of each other, but I am hesitant since the Reflector Mage is leaving and returning to the battlefield.
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Unfortunately that isn't going to work the way you want it to. While you can target your Reflector Mage with both Soulherders' end step triggered abilities, once the first one resolves and blinks your Reflector Mage, the second one will fail to resolve because it has an invalid target. When the Reflector Mage is blinked, it becomes a new object with no memory of its previous existence on the battlefield, so as far as the other Soulherder's triggered ability is concerned, it isn't the same Reflector Mage it targeted when it went on the stack.
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1. End step starts and you out the two flicker triggers on the stack targeting reflector mage.
2. First one resolves bouncing reflector mage
3. Reflector mage comes back in causing his ETB to trigger and the counters to trigger on soulherders
4. Resolve ETB/counter triggers and then the bounce happens
5. Second set of counters go on the herders.
6. Second flicker trigger doesn't resolve because it doesn't have its target anymore. The reflector mage is considered a new object.
Empty stack assuming no spells or other triggered abilities.
What you can do is trigger on one soulherder, flicker that and the second trigger can target the mage. That way you get a counter on both for the mage and then anther counter on both for bouncing whatever you wanted to for your opponents. So that's 2 counters on the one you flickered.
Well, no. Soulherder only gets counters when a creature is exiled from the battlefield, not bounced, which is what Reflector Mage does. I don't think there is a way to cheat out multiple bounces here.
Can a creature that enters the battlefield at the beginning of the end step be bounced by Soulherder? Like with a Flickerwisp or Venser?
No. Once the end step begins all abilities that trigger at the beginning of the end step happen at once and targets must be declared when the ability triggers. Anything that enters at the beginning of the end step won't be a legal target for any abilities that require a target at the beginning of the endstep.
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Say I have two Soulherder on the board and a Reflector Mage. I move to my end step and both Soulherders abilities go on the stack. Can I target my Reflector Mage twice and get two bounce affects?
I believe so, since the Soulherder abilities resolve independently of each other, but I am hesitant since the Reflector Mage is leaving and returning to the battlefield.
Standard - Some kind of control
Modern - UB Mill (casual)
EDH - Meren's Grave Shenanigans
1. End step starts and you out the two flicker triggers on the stack targeting reflector mage.
2. First one resolves bouncing reflector mage
3. Reflector mage comes back in causing his ETB to trigger and the counters to trigger on soulherders
4. Resolve ETB/counter triggers and then the bounce happens
5. Second set of counters go on the herders.
6. Second flicker trigger doesn't resolve because it doesn't have its target anymore. The reflector mage is considered a new object.
Empty stack assuming no spells or other triggered abilities.
What you can do is trigger on one soulherder, flicker that and the second trigger can target the mage. That way you get a counter on both for the mage and then anther counter on both for bouncing whatever you wanted to for your opponents. So that's 2 counters on the one you flickered.
Standard - Some kind of control
Modern - UB Mill (casual)
EDH - Meren's Grave Shenanigans
No. Once the end step begins all abilities that trigger at the beginning of the end step happen at once and targets must be declared when the ability triggers. Anything that enters at the beginning of the end step won't be a legal target for any abilities that require a target at the beginning of the endstep.