Question about Risk Factor and Expansion // Explosion. If I play Risk Factor, my opponent chooses 4 damage, then I copy it with Expansion/Explosion do they take another 4 or do they choose again? How does the timing go? Do I play Risk Factor, it resolves and then immediately play Expansion/Explosion and they do it at the same time? Just need clarification. Thanks!
In order to copy Risk Factor it has to still be on the stack. And when you respond to it by copying it, the copy resolves first. Since the choice whether to take the damage is part of the effect of the spell and not a target nor a mode, the opponent chooses on resolution and may choose different options when the copy resolves and when the original resolves.
Your opponent doesn't choose until the spell resolves, at which point would be too late to copy it. You need to copy the spell before they make any decision. Additionally, they can choose differently for either as, again, they do not choose until the spell resolves.
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Okay, thanks. Second question. When I play Risk Factor, lets say against control, I ask first if it resolves then play Expansion/Explosion to copy it, then both resolve? What I mean is I play Risk Factor and I try to copy it, can the control player then in turn counter Risk Factor and hence both my copy (which has no target)and my original Risk Factor not do anything? Sorry if that's confusing.
If you want to copy any spell with another spell, you have to do so without giving up priority, or you risk losing the opportunity to cast the copy spell in time. When you cast a spell, you get priority first afterwards. If you pass to see wether the opponent wants to respond and he doesn't, then all players have passed in succession and the spell resolves without another chance to cast your copy spell on it.
A copy spell must be cast while the other spell is still on the stack, so hasn't yet resolved. A copy will be created above the origial and resolve first. Your opponent can even try to counter the original after the copy has resolved.
If the target of the copy spell leaves the stack (for example by being countered), and it has no other targets, it will be removed from the stack without doing anything. So you won't even get the copy.
A statement such as "do you want to counter?" means you pass priority after casting your spell, because you are asking your opponent about taking an action he can only take if he has priority.
So I am taking a big chance here being two for oned with a counterspell. Thanks I appreciate it!
If you suspect your opponent to have a counterspell you could copy the counterspell tho (Since all counterspells are cmc 4 or less atm in standard^^)
As was said above:
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If you want to copy any spell with another spell, you have to do so without giving up priority, or you risk losing the opportunity to cast the copy spell in time. When you cast a spell, you get priority first afterwards. If you pass to see wether the opponent wants to respond and he doesn't, then all players have passed in succession and the spell resolves without another chance to cast your copy spell on it.
Waiting to see if your opponent uses a counterspell means that you lose the opportunity to copy your spell if they do not. Sure, if they do respond with a counterspell, you can copy that counterspell to counter in turn (or copy your original spell now, which yields similar results of having one instance of the spell resolve, as now the copy gets created and resolves before the original gets countered). But that wasn't the question.
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A copy spell must be cast while the other spell is still on the stack, so hasn't yet resolved. A copy will be created above the origial and resolve first. Your opponent can even try to counter the original after the copy has resolved.
If the target of the copy spell leaves the stack (for example by being countered), and it has no other targets, it will be removed from the stack without doing anything. So you won't even get the copy.
A statement such as "do you want to counter?" means you pass priority after casting your spell, because you are asking your opponent about taking an action he can only take if he has priority.
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