- Player A casts Stonehorn Dignitary
- After triggered ability went onto stack, Player B casts Path to exile to Dignitary.
Q: Will player B skip his next combat phase?
Q2: If player A casts cloudshift to Dignitary while Path is on the stack, what's gonna happen? Path fizzles and then player B skips his next two combat phases?
1. Once an ability is on the stack, it exists independent of the source that made it. Removing the Dignitary from the battlefield won't stop the trigger from resolving, so Player B will still skip their next combat phase.
2. The Dignitary that's on the battlefield now is a different permanent than the one the Path is targeting, so Path will end up countered and the Dignitary will not be exiled. Since it entered the battlefield again, its ability would trigger, and if both target the same opponent, they'll skip their next two combat phases.
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Scientists have calculated that the chance of anything so patently absurd actually existing are millions to one. But magicians have calculated that million-to-one chances crop up nine times out of ten.
In this case it doesn't seem that ETB triggered ability independent of the source. Why, what is the difference?
The situation there involves a nonland permanent that would be exiled "until Angel of Sanctions leaves the battlefield" (C.R. 610.3). Since Angel of Sanctions already left the battlefield before that ability resolves, that permanent isn't exiled this way (C.R. 610.3b). Even in this case, the ability in question gets to resolve (C.R. 112.7a), but can do nothing there.
Just because a triggered ability, "[o]nce ... triggered", "exists ... independently" of its source, e.g., gets to resolve no matter what happens to that source (C.R. 112.7a), doesn't mean that it will always resolve the same way no matter what happens to that source. Examples include Animate Dead's triggered ability, which works only if Animate Dead is still on the battlefield when that ability would resolve (C.R. 608.2a), and Gilded Drake's triggered ability, where both Gilded Drake and the targeted creature must be controlled by different players, among other things, for the exchange of control to take place (C.R. 608.2b, 701.10a-b).
EDIT (Feb. 14; Jun. 7): Correctness edit.
EDIT (Sep. 29, 2018): Correct quotation.
EDIT (Apr. 2, 2019): Some rules were renumbered in the meantime.
EDIT (Jul. 2, 2020): The relevant part of one rule was moved in the Core Set 2021 update.
- Player A casts Stonehorn Dignitary
- After triggered ability went onto stack, Player B casts Path to exile to Dignitary.
Q: Will player B skip his next combat phase?
Q2: If player A casts cloudshift to Dignitary while Path is on the stack, what's gonna happen? Path fizzles and then player B skips his next two combat phases?
Any rules reference would be appreciated.
Thanks
2. The Dignitary that's on the battlefield now is a different permanent than the one the Path is targeting, so Path will end up countered and the Dignitary will not be exiled. Since it entered the battlefield again, its ability would trigger, and if both target the same opponent, they'll skip their next two combat phases.
Scientists have calculated that the chance of anything so patently absurd actually existing are millions to one. But magicians have calculated that million-to-one chances crop up nine times out of ten.
http://www.mtgsalvation.com/forums/magic-fundamentals/magic-rulings/785910-angel-of-sanctions-vs-dromokas-command#c4
In this case it doesn't seem that ETB triggered ability independent of the source. Why, what is the difference?
Just because a triggered ability, "[o]nce ... triggered", "exists ... independently" of its source, e.g., gets to resolve no matter what happens to that source (C.R. 112.7a), doesn't mean that it will always resolve the same way no matter what happens to that source. Examples include Animate Dead's triggered ability, which works only if Animate Dead is still on the battlefield when that ability would resolve (C.R. 608.2a), and Gilded Drake's triggered ability, where both Gilded Drake and the targeted creature must be controlled by different players, among other things, for the exchange of control to take place (C.R. 608.2b, 701.10a-b).
EDIT (Feb. 14; Jun. 7): Correctness edit.
EDIT (Sep. 29, 2018): Correct quotation.
EDIT (Apr. 2, 2019): Some rules were renumbered in the meantime.
EDIT (Jul. 2, 2020): The relevant part of one rule was moved in the Core Set 2021 update.