No, if the card with suspend has a CMC less than the card with cascade then you'd cast that spell as if it were any other spell. Even if there is no mana cost on the card, with cascade it allows you to cast the card with an alternative casting cost, so though you wouldn't normally be able to cast it normally in this case you could using the alternative cost.
You get to cast the card with suspend without paying its mana cost if its CMC is lower than the CMC of the cascade spell. Suspend doesn't have any influence here, it may as well not be on the card. Cascade allows you to cast the card, it doesn't allow you to suspend it.
Suspend is a special action that you can take whenever you could cast the card. If you suspend something, you are not casting that something nor are you activating an ability. It is when the card comes out of suspend, that you get to cast it without paying its mana cost. Also, Suspend only works from the hand. And while some cards can suspend a card from other zones they do so specificlaly as an effect, not as a special action for you to take.
The ultimate goal is to cast a Demonic dread or Violent Outburst, cascading down into a Living End as the only card with <3 CMC, and because you are cascading into it, you are allowed to treat Living End as having a 0 casting cost, which allows you to play it on the back end of the cascade.
Cards without casting costs cannot be manually cast from the hand, but there are rules allowing them to be cast in alternative fashions, such as through cascade, Mind's Desire, Fist of Suns, etc.
You get to cast the card with suspend without paying its mana cost if its CMC is lower than the CMC of the cascade spell. Suspend doesn't have any influence here, it may as well not be on the card. Cascade allows you to cast the card, it doesn't allow you to suspend it.
Suspend is a special action that you can take whenever you could cast the card. If you suspend something, you are not casting that something nor are you activating an ability. It is when the card comes out of suspend, that you get to cast it without paying its mana cost. Also, Suspend only works from the hand. And while some cards can suspend a card from other zones they do so specificlaly as an effect, not as a special action for you to take.
I don't see any reason preventing cards from being suspended through a cascade effect.
The Suspend rules say: “If you could begin to cast this card by putting it onto the stack from your hand, you may pay [cost] and exile it with N time counters on it.", and what cascade does is "cast that card without paying its mana cost".
Since the card with suspend is cast from the hand, then it should be possible to activate the suspend ability.
You get to cast the card with suspend without paying its mana cost if its CMC is lower than the CMC of the cascade spell. Suspend doesn't have any influence here, it may as well not be on the card. Cascade allows you to cast the card, it doesn't allow you to suspend it.
Suspend is a special action that you can take whenever you could cast the card. If you suspend something, you are not casting that something nor are you activating an ability. It is when the card comes out of suspend, that you get to cast it without paying its mana cost. Also, Suspend only works from the hand. And while some cards can suspend a card from other zones they do so specificlaly as an effect, not as a special action for you to take.
I don't see any reason preventing cards from being suspended through a cascade effect.
The Suspend rules say: “If you could begin to cast this card by putting it onto the stack from your hand, you may pay [cost] and exile it with N time counters on it.", and what cascade does is "cast that card without paying its mana cost".
Since the card with suspend is cast from the hand, then it should be possible to activate the suspend ability.
If you're cascading into it, the stack is not empty. If the stack isn't empty, you can't begin to cast a Sorcery. Since there are no Instant speed Suspend cards, you cannot begin to cast a Suspend card while resolving a Cascade effect - meaning you cannot ever Suspend off of Cascade.
In addition to the fact that Cascade casts the spell - it doesn't allow you to activate Suspend.
You get to cast the card with suspend without paying its mana cost if its CMC is lower than the CMC of the cascade spell. Suspend doesn't have any influence here, it may as well not be on the card. Cascade allows you to cast the card, it doesn't allow you to suspend it.
Suspend is a special action that you can take whenever you could cast the card. If you suspend something, you are not casting that something nor are you activating an ability. It is when the card comes out of suspend, that you get to cast it without paying its mana cost. Also, Suspend only works from the hand. And while some cards can suspend a card from other zones they do so specificlaly as an effect, not as a special action for you to take.
I don't see any reason preventing cards from being suspended through a cascade effect.
The Suspend rules say: “If you could begin to cast this card by putting it onto the stack from your hand, you may pay [cost] and exile it with N time counters on it.", and what cascade does is "cast that card without paying its mana cost".
Since the card with suspend is cast from the hand, then it should be possible to activate the suspend ability.
If you're cascading into it, the stack is not empty. If the stack isn't empty, you can't begin to cast a Sorcery. Since there are no Instant speed Suspend cards, you cannot begin to cast a Suspend card while resolving a Cascade effect - meaning you cannot ever Suspend off of Cascade.
In addition to the fact that Cascade casts the spell - it doesn't allow you to activate Suspend.
That's not really relevant though. You can't normally cast any spells while an ability is resolving. Cascade is granting permission to do so which means the card type becomes irrelevant. Since Cascade lets you cast the spell and Suspend only cares about something giving permission to cast the spell, it would theoretically be possible to Suspend off Cascade.
However, as ProfBlossom points out, the issue is not the timing of casting/suspending the spell. The issue is that Suspend explicitly works on cards in a player's hand. Since the cards are in exile when Cascade allows them to be cast, they are not in the hand which means that part of the requirement for Suspending a card is not met.
You get to cast the card with suspend without paying its mana cost if its CMC is lower than the CMC of the cascade spell. Suspend doesn't have any influence here, it may as well not be on the card. Cascade allows you to cast the card, it doesn't allow you to suspend it.
Suspend is a special action that you can take whenever you could cast the card. If you suspend something, you are not casting that something nor are you activating an ability. It is when the card comes out of suspend, that you get to cast it without paying its mana cost. Also, Suspend only works from the hand. And while some cards can suspend a card from other zones they do so specificlaly as an effect, not as a special action for you to take.
I don't see any reason preventing cards from being suspended through a cascade effect.
The Suspend rules say: “If you could begin to cast this card by putting it onto the stack from your hand, you may pay [cost] and exile it with N time counters on it.", and what cascade does is "cast that card without paying its mana cost".
Since the card with suspend is cast from the hand, then it should be possible to activate the suspend ability.
If you're cascading into it, the stack is not empty. If the stack isn't empty, you can't begin to cast a Sorcery. Since there are no Instant speed Suspend cards, you cannot begin to cast a Suspend card while resolving a Cascade effect - meaning you cannot ever Suspend off of Cascade.
In addition to the fact that Cascade casts the spell - it doesn't allow you to activate Suspend.
That's not really relevant though. You can't normally cast any spells while an ability is resolving. Cascade is granting permission to do so which means the card type becomes irrelevant. Since Cascade lets you cast the spell and Suspend only cares about something giving permission to cast the spell, it would theoretically be possible to Suspend off Cascade.
However, as ProfBlossom points out, the issue is not the timing of casting/suspending the spell. The issue is that Suspend explicitly works on cards in a player's hand. Since the cards are in exile when Cascade allows them to be cast, they are not in the hand which means that part of the requirement for Suspending a card is not met.
You (and ProfBlossom) are right - sorry. I was hung up on timing for some reason, forgetting that Suspend requires from hand. Mea culpa.
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Suspend is a special action that you can take whenever you could cast the card. If you suspend something, you are not casting that something nor are you activating an ability. It is when the card comes out of suspend, that you get to cast it without paying its mana cost. Also, Suspend only works from the hand. And while some cards can suspend a card from other zones they do so specificlaly as an effect, not as a special action for you to take.
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The ultimate goal is to cast a Demonic dread or Violent Outburst, cascading down into a Living End as the only card with <3 CMC, and because you are cascading into it, you are allowed to treat Living End as having a 0 casting cost, which allows you to play it on the back end of the cascade.
Cards without casting costs cannot be manually cast from the hand, but there are rules allowing them to be cast in alternative fashions, such as through cascade, Mind's Desire, Fist of Suns, etc.
I don't see any reason preventing cards from being suspended through a cascade effect.
The Suspend rules say: “If you could begin to cast this card by putting it onto the stack from your hand, you may pay [cost] and exile it with N time counters on it.", and what cascade does is "cast that card without paying its mana cost".
Since the card with suspend is cast from the hand, then it should be possible to activate the suspend ability.
If you're cascading into it, the stack is not empty. If the stack isn't empty, you can't begin to cast a Sorcery. Since there are no Instant speed Suspend cards, you cannot begin to cast a Suspend card while resolving a Cascade effect - meaning you cannot ever Suspend off of Cascade.
In addition to the fact that Cascade casts the spell - it doesn't allow you to activate Suspend.
However, as ProfBlossom points out, the issue is not the timing of casting/suspending the spell. The issue is that Suspend explicitly works on cards in a player's hand. Since the cards are in exile when Cascade allows them to be cast, they are not in the hand which means that part of the requirement for Suspending a card is not met.
You (and ProfBlossom) are right - sorry. I was hung up on timing for some reason, forgetting that Suspend requires from hand. Mea culpa.