Now if Staff of nin were to get exiled before it resolved, would it still kill a creature?
I mean if it can put non-deathtouch damage on the stack, then have the damage source gain deathtouch, causing the damage done to be deathtouch, then would the damage lose deathtouch (and lifelink) if the source got exiled before the damage resolves?
Logicly it would seems so but there's probably some rule indicating the last state of the card when it was on the battlefield, anyway I can't seem to find the answer to this question on my own and any help would be appreciated.
If you activate Staff of Nin's second ability and Staff of Nin leaves the battlefield before that ability resolves, it will still deal damage when that ability resolves (C.R. 113.7a). The damage will be dealt taking into account who controlled Staff of Nin and whether Staff of Nin had deathtouch and/or lifelink at the last moment it was on the battlefield (C.R. 113.7a, 120.3f, 704.5h; see also C.R. 702.2e, 702.15c, respectively). Accordingly, even if Staff of Nin has left the battlefield, if Staff of Nin has (or, according to its last known information, had):
deathtouch as it deals damage to a creature, that creature will be destroyed as a state-based action (C.R. 704.5h; see also C.R. 702.2e).
lifelink, its last known controller will gain as much life as the damage it deals (C.R. 120.3f; see also C.R. 702.15c).
Note that there is no such thing as "deathtouch damage" or "lifelink damage", but rather damage dealt by a source with deathtouch or lifelink.
EDIT (Apr. 29): Clarification.
EDIT (May 26): Added rule citations.
EDIT (May 26): Note that this is different from continuous effects from static abilities, even if they might do the same thing as lifelink or deathtouch; in general, such an effect works only while the object generating that effect is in the appropriate zone (C.R. 611.3b, 113.6). Here, however, it's the existence of an ability (here, either lifelink or deathtouch), not of a continuous effect, that affects the nature of the damage (C.R. 120.3, 704.5h).
EDIT (Sep. 17): Minor spelling correction in note from May 26 (beginning with "Note that...").
EDIT (Oct. 27): Corrected rule citation.
EDIT (Jan. 8, 2018): Clarification.
EDIT (Mar. 25, 2019): Corrected rule citation in second note from May 26.
EDIT (Jan. 5, 2022): Some rules were renumbered in the meantime.
Ok, so I take it that even if the staff isn't on the battlefield when the damage resolves, the fact that the staff had lifelink and deathtouch when it was last on the battlefield means that the damage will still kill a creature and cause me to gain one life.
I have another question, the staff gets tapped, adding 1 damage directed at a creature to the stack, then sydris first and second abilities get activated (also going on the stack I assume), then the staff gets destroyed in response to the abilities of sydri going on the stack.
Would the creature die? Or would you need to activate sydris abilities again for the creature to die?
I have another question, the staff gets tapped, adding 1 damage directed at a creature to the stack, then sydris first and second abilities get activated (also going on the stack I assume), then the staff gets destroyed in response to the abilities of sydri going on the stack.
Would the creature die? Or would you need to activate sydris abilities again for the creature to die?
If the staff is removed with Sydri's abilities on the stack, they will fizzle. The staff will not gain lifelink/deathtouch in this scenario unless the staff gains the abilities prior to being removed.
https://www.reddit.com/r/EDH/comments/5ewxzs/sydri_and_stack_interaction/
That you can tap Staff of nin after casting it to put it's 1 damage on the stack, then animate it and give it lifelink and deathtouch with Sydri, Galvanic Genius afterwards to kill a creature (The idea being Staff of nin doesn't need haste, it taps before becoming a creature).
Now if Staff of nin were to get exiled before it resolved, would it still kill a creature?
I mean if it can put non-deathtouch damage on the stack, then have the damage source gain deathtouch, causing the damage done to be deathtouch, then would the damage lose deathtouch (and lifelink) if the source got exiled before the damage resolves?
Logicly it would seems so but there's probably some rule indicating the last state of the card when it was on the battlefield, anyway I can't seem to find the answer to this question on my own and any help would be appreciated.
EDIT (Apr. 29): Clarification.
EDIT (May 26): Added rule citations.
EDIT (May 26): Note that this is different from continuous effects from static abilities, even if they might do the same thing as lifelink or deathtouch; in general, such an effect works only while the object generating that effect is in the appropriate zone (C.R. 611.3b, 113.6). Here, however, it's the existence of an ability (here, either lifelink or deathtouch), not of a continuous effect, that affects the nature of the damage (C.R. 120.3, 704.5h).
EDIT (Sep. 17): Minor spelling correction in note from May 26 (beginning with "Note that...").
EDIT (Oct. 27): Corrected rule citation.
EDIT (Jan. 8, 2018): Clarification.
EDIT (Mar. 25, 2019): Corrected rule citation in second note from May 26.
EDIT (Jan. 5, 2022): Some rules were renumbered in the meantime.
Thank you for answering my question.
Would the creature die? Or would you need to activate sydris abilities again for the creature to die?
If the staff is removed with Sydri's abilities on the stack, they will fizzle. The staff will not gain lifelink/deathtouch in this scenario unless the staff gains the abilities prior to being removed.