So i was playing a game with my bf and we were trying to figure out how the rulings would work with this situation, which i typed up below.
It had just turned to my turn, my bf had a Call to the Grave and i had a Master of the Wild Hunt on the field.
So the question is which ability would happen first??
Do i get the token and then can sacrifice it or do i have to sacrifice my Master of the Wild Hunt??
We couldnt figure it out so we just decided that i can get the token and sacrifice the it, but we want to make sure its right.
If you could help that would be great thanks.
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When your upkeep begins, the first abilities of Master of the Wild Hunt and Call to the Grave will trigger. Since both are controlled by different players, you, as the player whose turn it is, put Master of the Wild Hunt's ability on the stack first and your opponent puts Call to the Grave's ability on the stack above it (C.R. 603.3b, 405.2), so the latter gets to resolve first (C.R. 116.4); when it does you must sacrifice a non-Zombie creature. (If the only non-Zombie creature you control is Master of the Wild Hunt, you must sacrifice it.) Then, when Master of the Wild Hunt's ability resolves, you create a Wolf token. (It can resolve even if Master of the Wild Hunt was sacrificed beforehand [C.R. 112.7a].)
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To answer your question, if there are multiple abilites that will fire off the same event, in this case you entering your upkeep, the person whose turn it is (Active player) will put all abilites that they control on the stack first followed by their opponents (Non Active Player).
In this case this you will put the ability from Master of the wild hunt on the stack first followed by Call to the grave. This will mean that the wolf created by the master of the wild hunt won't be around to be sacrificed to call to the grave.
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I thought it went by age. As in what was played first. so if call was played first it would trigger first if hunt was played first then it would trigger first on the stack
I thought it went by age. As in what was played first. so if call was played first it would trigger first if hunt was played first then it would trigger first on the stack
No, which order triggered abilities go on the stack when more than one would go on the stack at the same time depends on whose turn it is and who controls those abilities (C.R. 603.3b).
Your opponent could get a token by placing the wolf token on the field under their control. Hunt doesn't specify who gets control of the token. It's implied that it's you but it doesn't have the specific text "under your control" on it so in theory you could create the token under their control and they would have to sacrifice it at the beginning of their upkeep
Your opponent could get a token by placing the wolf token on the field under their control. Hunt doesn't specify who gets control of the token. It's implied that it's you but it doesn't have the specific text "under your control" on it so in theory you could create the token under their control and they would have to sacrifice it at the beginning of their upkeep
This is incorrect, and nothing is ever implied in MTG. The only time you can create a token under an opponents control is if the ability specifically says you do so like on hunted dragon, otherwise any tokens you create will always be under your control.
Your opponent will not get a wolf token in this situation.
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I originally wrote, "...ability resolves, your opponent creates a Wolf token" in comment 2. But then I saw I made a mistake and corrected it to "...ability resolves, you create a Wolf token". See my edited comment 2.
When your upkeep begins, the first abilities of Master of the Wild Hunt and Call to the Grave will trigger. Since both are controlled by different players, you, as the player whose turn it is, put Master of the Wild Hunt's ability on the stack first and your opponent puts Call to the Grave's ability on the stack above it (C.R. 603.3b, 405.2), so the latter gets to resolve first (C.R. 116.4); when it does you must sacrifice a non-Zombie creature. (If the only non-Zombie creature you control is Master of the Wild Hunt, you must sacrifice it.) Then, when Master of the Wild Hunt's ability resolves, you create a Wolf token. (It can resolve even if Master of the Wild Hunt was sacrificed beforehand [C.R. 112.7a].)
Im confused wouldnt i be able to sacrifice the token and not my creature???
No, because you don't have a token yet. The Call to the Grave trigger resolves first, making you sac a non-Zombie, before the token creating trigger resolves and gives you a token.
It had just turned to my turn, my bf had a Call to the Grave and i had a Master of the Wild Hunt on the field.
So the question is which ability would happen first??
Do i get the token and then can sacrifice it or do i have to sacrifice my Master of the Wild Hunt??
We couldnt figure it out so we just decided that i can get the token and sacrifice the it, but we want to make sure its right.
If you could help that would be great thanks.
To answer your question, if there are multiple abilites that will fire off the same event, in this case you entering your upkeep, the person whose turn it is (Active player) will put all abilites that they control on the stack first followed by their opponents (Non Active Player).
In this case this you will put the ability from Master of the wild hunt on the stack first followed by Call to the grave. This will mean that the wolf created by the master of the wild hunt won't be around to be sacrificed to call to the grave.
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All Religion, my friend is simply evolved out of fraud, fear, greed, imagination and poetry.
- Edgar Allan Poe
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This is incorrect, and nothing is ever implied in MTG. The only time you can create a token under an opponents control is if the ability specifically says you do so like on hunted dragon, otherwise any tokens you create will always be under your control.
Your opponent will not get a wolf token in this situation.
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Im confused wouldnt i be able to sacrifice the token and not my creature???
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