In my second main phase I tap Blinkmoth Nexus then animate it. Creating an artifact creature man-land.
My friend reasons that glimmervoid will check to see if you control an artifact at the end of the end step. I reason that it only checks to see if you have an artifact at the beginning of the end step. Who is correct?
It is a standard intervening if trigger, so it will check at the beginning to see if you have no artifacts. If you have one no trigger, if you don't then it triggers and will check again on resolution.
BTW you can't confirm if anyone here is an actual judge, I could say im judge level 100. Also being a judge doesn't make us more right, the comp rules does.
Also you will control one at the start and end of the end step because it isn't until cleanup that it won't be an artifact.
My friend reasons that glimmervoid will check to see if you control an artifact at the end of the end step. I reason that it only checks to see if you have an artifact at the beginning of the end step. Who is correct?
This is very simple. Glimmervoid says "At the beginning of the end step..." Not the end of the end step, the beginning.
It's also worth noting that there are no cards which trigger at the end of a step, and the priority rules get funky if you tried to make a custom card which did. (There are some cards which trigger after the end step is over, but these trigger at the beginning of the cleanup step.)
That is the print version that was in question. I guess it would have been easier to look up the most recent errata.
"At end of turn" was almost universally errata'd to "at the beginning of the end step" a while back. It was done to clarify the meaning because it is a triggered ability occuring at one time.
That is the print version that was in question. I guess it would have been easier to look up the most recent errata.
"At end of turn" was almost universally errata'd to "at the beginning of the end step" a while back. It was done to clarify the meaning because it is a triggered ability occuring at one time.
Yeah that is what I was thinking, But the other judge read the card and got something way different. He started trying to explain layers, and I was just like it isn't that hard in this case. I know what layers are, and how they affect the game state, this doesn't care about them in this instance. It just looks once at the beginning of the endstep, sees an artifact, say okay were good and doesn't trigger.
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Glimmervoid
In my second main phase I tap Blinkmoth Nexus then animate it. Creating an artifact creature man-land.
My friend reasons that glimmervoid will check to see if you control an artifact at the end of the end step. I reason that it only checks to see if you have an artifact at the beginning of the end step. Who is correct?
BEEEES!
Rabble Red
Modern
Burn
Infect
BTW you can't confirm if anyone here is an actual judge, I could say im judge level 100. Also being a judge doesn't make us more right, the comp rules does.
Also you will control one at the start and end of the end step because it isn't until cleanup that it won't be an artifact.
It's also worth noting that there are no cards which trigger at the end of a step, and the priority rules get funky if you tried to make a custom card which did. (There are some cards which trigger after the end step is over, but these trigger at the beginning of the cleanup step.)
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That is the print version that was in question. I guess it would have been easier to look up the most recent errata.
BEEEES!
Rabble Red
Modern
Burn
Infect
"At end of turn" was almost universally errata'd to "at the beginning of the end step" a while back. It was done to clarify the meaning because it is a triggered ability occuring at one time.
Yeah that is what I was thinking, But the other judge read the card and got something way different. He started trying to explain layers, and I was just like it isn't that hard in this case. I know what layers are, and how they affect the game state, this doesn't care about them in this instance. It just looks once at the beginning of the endstep, sees an artifact, say okay were good and doesn't trigger.
BEEEES!
Rabble Red
Modern
Burn
Infect