Hi, quick question, this came up at FNM. I controlled Thassa, God of the Sea who was "online" as a creature due to Devotion to Blue of five. My opponent cast Dragonlord Silumgar to steal her, with no other permanents under his control. Therefore he only had Devotion to Blue of two (after gaining Thassa). So Thassa would cease to be a creature as soon as she went to his control. Would this cause Silumgar's control to somehow "fail"? Our guess was no, because the ability only seems to check if the permanent is a valid target when it first resolves. This is how we played it, though it would be nice to have confirmation that we were right or be told why we were wrong.
By comparison, this is distinct from the situation of "Control Magic on your Erebos; oops, I don't have enough devotion to black! Control Magic falls off and I have to give Erebos right back." An aura has a continuous requirement that it be enchanting a specific card type (in Control Magic's case, a creature); Dragonlord Silumgar's ability doesn't seem to have a requirement that the permanent remain a creature or planeswalker; just that it be a creature or planeswalker when the ability resolves.
Hi, quick question, this came up at FNM. I controlled Thassa, God of the Sea who was "online" as a creature due to Devotion to Blue of five. My opponent cast Dragonlord Silumgar to steal her, with no other permanents under his control. Therefore he only had Devotion to Blue of two (after gaining Thassa). So Thassa would cease to be a creature as soon as she went to his control. Would this cause Silumgar's control to somehow "fail"? Our guess was no, because the ability only seems to check if the permanent is a valid target when it first resolves. This is how we played it, though it would be nice to have confirmation that we were right or be told why we were wrong.
You played correctly. Silumgar's ability checks if the target is valid when it goes to the stack and when it starts resolving. Even if the target stops being a creature (or planeswalker) after that, the Silumgar's player will retain control of it.
By comparison, this is distinct from the situation of "Control Magic on your Erebos; oops, I don't have enough devotion to black! Control Magic falls off and I have to give Erebos right back." An aura has a continuous requirement that it be enchanting a specific card type (in Control Magic's case, a creature); Dragonlord Silumgar's ability doesn't seem to have a requirement that the permanent remain a creature or planeswalker; just that it be a creature or planeswalker when the ability resolves.
Correct again, an Aura continuously checks to see if it is enchanting a valid object according to its Enchant ability.
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By comparison, this is distinct from the situation of "Control Magic on your Erebos; oops, I don't have enough devotion to black! Control Magic falls off and I have to give Erebos right back." An aura has a continuous requirement that it be enchanting a specific card type (in Control Magic's case, a creature); Dragonlord Silumgar's ability doesn't seem to have a requirement that the permanent remain a creature or planeswalker; just that it be a creature or planeswalker when the ability resolves.
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You played correctly. Silumgar's ability checks if the target is valid when it goes to the stack and when it starts resolving. Even if the target stops being a creature (or planeswalker) after that, the Silumgar's player will retain control of it.
Correct again, an Aura continuously checks to see if it is enchanting a valid object according to its Enchant ability.