I have a question about Bearer of the Heavens and cards that make it lose all its abilities such as, Turn to Frog , Sudden Spoiling , etc. Would its ability still trigger? I want to say that it will not.
I have a question about Bearer of the Heavens and cards that make it lose all its abilities such as, Turn to Frog , Sudden Spoiling , etc. Would its ability still trigger? I want to say that it will not.
An ability that doesn't exist can't trigger. The resulting Bearer of the Heavens card that will be in the graveyard will have such an ability, but it won't matter.
603.6d Normally, objects that exist immediately after an event are checked to see if the event matched any trigger conditions. Continuous effects that exist at that time are used to determine what the trigger conditions are and what the objects involved in the event look like. However, some triggered abilities must be treated specially. Leaves-the-battlefield abilities, abilities that trigger when a permanent phases out, abilities that trigger when an object that all players can see is put into a hand or library, abilities that trigger specifically when an object becomes unattached, abilities that trigger when a player loses control of an object, and abilities that trigger when a player planeswalks away from a plane will trigger based on their existence, and the appearance of objects, prior to the event rather than afterward. The game has to “look back in time” to determine if these abilities trigger.
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Why bother with mere rulings when so many answers can be found in the Rules?
It will not. To determine if a leaves-the-battlefield ability will trigger, check the existence of the permanent with the LTB ability immediately before it left the battlefield. Since at the time it left the battlefield, it didn't have the LTB ability, no ability will trigger.
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How to use card tags (please use them for everybody's sanity)
[c]Lightning Bolt[/c] -> Lightning Bolt
[c=Lightning Bolt]Apple Pie[/c] -> Apple Pie
Vowels-Only Format Minimum deck size: 60 Maximum number of identical cards: 4 Ban list: Cards whose English names begin with a consonant, Unglued and Unhinged cards, cards involving ante, Ancestral Recall
[c]Lightning Bolt[/c] -> Lightning Bolt
[c=Lightning Bolt]Apple Pie[/c] -> Apple Pie
Vowels-Only Format
Minimum deck size: 60
Maximum number of identical cards: 4
Ban list: Cards whose English names begin with a consonant, Unglued and Unhinged cards, cards involving ante, Ancestral Recall
Curiously, Emrakul, the Aeons Torn does trigger when it goes into a graveyard even when it had no abilities on the battlefield.
Edit: Both interactions are explained by the rule that was quoted.