in my mono u control i run stuff like dungeon geist and hands of binding as psuedo removal to keep stuff tapped forever but i have a friend who's convinced i cant target a creture with those if it's already tapped, is that true? and if not what ruling could i show to prove it.
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Your friend is wrong, Neither of those cards reads target creature that is untapped. The only requirement for them is target creature an opp controls. So as long as it is otherwise a legal target (no hexproof or protection) then it is a valid target for their abilities.
Dungeon Geists
The ability can target a tapped creature. If the targeted creature is already tapped when it resolves, that creature just remains tapped and doesn't untap during its controller's next untap step.
hands of binding
This spell can target tapped creatures. If a targeted creature is already tapped when the spell resolves, that creature just remains tapped and doesn't untap during its controller's next untap step.
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Please use card tags in future posts. The Forum Guidelines explain how to do that. ~ Hendrik
also plz auto card relevant cards, quicker for us
[card ]Dungeon Geists[/card] (with no space between card and ]) -> Dungeon Geists
Hands of Binding
Dungeon Geists
The ability can target a tapped creature. If the targeted creature is already tapped when it resolves, that creature just remains tapped and doesn't untap during its controller's next untap step.
hands of binding
This spell can target tapped creatures. If a targeted creature is already tapped when the spell resolves, that creature just remains tapped and doesn't untap during its controller's next untap step.