Everyone says JTMS. And yea, having used it in at least EDH, he runs the table. With the printing of more planeswalker removal though, I feel he COULD come to be quasi reasonable for Modern legality. But that's still debatable.
Liliana (Of the Veil) is just so nasty. When it was Scars and Innistrad standard I had a U/B control deck where her +1 had very little downside, seeing as I could use recursion like flashback spells or Reassembling Skeleton to generate card advantage.
She's also an absolute beast in reanimator strategies and graveyard shenanigans and multiplayer (EDH or otherwise) games.
I guess there is no question about those two being the 2 best Planeswalkers.
Now I guess the REAL question is which is the 3rd best planeswalker?
I'd say some of the recent Garruks (Primal Hunter) are nasty, and he would get my vote since he has had a few useful iterations (Relentless and Caller of Beasts are pretty good too).
If Chandra wasn't so bad until Pyromaster, she would have been my 3rd choice.
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Example: The player who's being controlled still chooses whether he or she leaves to visit the restroom, trades a card to someone else, agrees to an intentional draw, or calls a judge about an error or infraction.
I don't think there are much "opinions" here. Jace, the Mind Sculptor isn't a card this is worth over $100 for nothing, especially when it is on a banned list.
Liliana of the Veil is likely the strongest planeswalker in Modern, the format that truly dictates the price of a planeswalker, since JTMS is banned.
Garruk also has multiple printings, and most of his printings were all solid cards - it's nowhere high on the scale, but I'd say he's the most balanced planeswalker amongst the Lorwyn 5, demonstrating power without breaking it, and hence my personal favorite (Now this is just opinion of preference, not power.)
That was me, and I wasn't trolling. "Powerful" doesn't mean the same thing as "good" to me (often the opposite, in fact).
I won't disagree that Tibalt is not a powerful planeswalker, but power is just about the last thing I care about. I care much, much more about flavor and interesting mechanics, and from that point of view I think he's an excellent planeswalker who epitomizes what his color should be about.
If the thread starter wanted me to vote for the most powerful planeswalker instead he should have been less ambiguous.
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That was me, and I wasn't trolling. "Powerful" doesn't mean the same thing as "good" to me (often the opposite, in fact).
I won't disagree that Tibalt is not a powerful planeswalker, but power is just about the last thing I care about. I care much, much more about flavor and interesting mechanics, and from that point of view I think he's an excellent planeswalker who epitomizes what his color should be about.
If the thread starter wanted me to vote for the most powerful planeswalker instead he should have been less ambiguous.
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Bolas/Karn tied for 2nd due to extreme power
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If we go on pure power of their abilities alone Nicol Bolas, Planeswalker and Karn Liberated are obviously the kings.
I vote for Liliana of the Veil since she is cheap CMC-wise and has powerful abilities and goes in decks that I would enjoy playing.
Liliana (Of the Veil) is just so nasty. When it was Scars and Innistrad standard I had a U/B control deck where her +1 had very little downside, seeing as I could use recursion like flashback spells or Reassembling Skeleton to generate card advantage.
She's also an absolute beast in reanimator strategies and graveyard shenanigans and multiplayer (EDH or otherwise) games.
I guess there is no question about those two being the 2 best Planeswalkers.
Now I guess the REAL question is which is the 3rd best planeswalker?
I'd say some of the recent Garruks (Primal Hunter) are nasty, and he would get my vote since he has had a few useful iterations (Relentless and Caller of Beasts are pretty good too).
If Chandra wasn't so bad until Pyromaster, she would have been my 3rd choice.
Example: The player who's being controlled still chooses whether he or she leaves to visit the restroom, trades a card to someone else, agrees to an intentional draw, or calls a judge about an error or infraction.
How about this?
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Liliana of the Veil is likely the strongest planeswalker in Modern, the format that truly dictates the price of a planeswalker, since JTMS is banned.
Garruk also has multiple printings, and most of his printings were all solid cards - it's nowhere high on the scale, but I'd say he's the most balanced planeswalker amongst the Lorwyn 5, demonstrating power without breaking it, and hence my personal favorite (Now this is just opinion of preference, not power.)
Nicol Bolas is so awesome! And so is Kokusho!
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That was me, and I wasn't trolling. "Powerful" doesn't mean the same thing as "good" to me (often the opposite, in fact).
I won't disagree that Tibalt is not a powerful planeswalker, but power is just about the last thing I care about. I care much, much more about flavor and interesting mechanics, and from that point of view I think he's an excellent planeswalker who epitomizes what his color should be about.
If the thread starter wanted me to vote for the most powerful planeswalker instead he should have been less ambiguous.
Thou shalt not frame images with the modern card face
Thou shalt not change rules in vain
Remember the Reserved List to keep it holy
Honor thy Slivers and the symmetry of their abilities
Thou shalt not kill mana burn
Thou shalt not sacrifice depth for accessibility
Thou shalt not steal combat damage from the stack
Thou shalt tell a story through thy cards
All must be one
Ah, fair enough.
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Have some irony: