I was able to pick these up for my BR reanimator deck, just wanted to get some opinions to their authenticity. 2 bayous and 3 badlands. They all pass the bend test and light test. one of the badlands and bayou is really clean which kind of threw me off as there arent much clean and nice looking duals left. Please comment what you think and if you need more photos I can add more.
These all look good except that really clean badlands has a rosette pattern unlike the other two- looks like snowflakes- and its inner red border looks a little different than the other two. I think that one warrants closer inspection, the rest I think are fine. Give high res scans of the full fronts and backs of all three badlands and make sure you identify the backsides easily for us. Really clean real duals certainly still exist. I have a couple of Seas and a Volc that I've had for years and if I traded them in whoever ended up getting them would definitely be looking them over.
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Thanks Ebonclaw for the response. The photos were listed as 1, 2 and 3. The #2 is really nice and the one in question? I'll have photos of the back and front when I get back. Thanks again.
Yes the Badlands 2 is te one with different pattern. I've seen similar on real cards, but having it on a very crispy clean card is always something one should double check. It's really hard to say anything for certain from a portion of the card, so getting a full scan helps.
You can also tell us if the card feels slicker than normal when taken out of the sleeve, as most fakes use different ink and primer than real cards. Just note that unplayed cards feel bit different from played copies.
Thanks Ebonclaw for the response. The photos were listed as 1, 2 and 3. The #2 is really nice and the one in question? I'll have photos of the back and front when I get back. Thanks again.
It's actually the one labeled (1) that I'm concerned about. Notice it's got the different rosette pattern compared to the other two. Get up some full scans of all three of them, fronts and backs for the best comparison and I think the community will be able to provide a much better opinion. The Badlands labeled (2) actually just looks like a nice, clean dual.
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The pics are difficult to judge from thanks to uneven lighting from your camera. It's also difficult to clearly define the rosettes on these, so I'd much prefer a scan. Drop it into an imgur album or something and throw a link up if it's too large. Having said that, from what I can tell, the rosette looks much more natural here- I can't tell which one is the one in question, though you've specified it, but that's got more to do with the pictures than anything. Get some actual scans as follows:
One scan, all three cards, side by side by side face up.
One scan, all three cards, side by side by side face down.
Don't tell me which one is the suspect- let's see if we can ID it from good scans alone.
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So the good news is that I think you've got all real dual lands here. Having said that- I was able to pretty easily identify the Badlands in question (it's the one underneath the Bayou, with the snowflake rosette). This was the concerning thing, so I got to examining all of them. The rosette is consistent and orderly, just like the "normal" ones, and I could kind of see where the normal rosette seemed to be present. So I examined the other two Badlands, and if you look at the topmost Badlands (the one above the Bayou), its rosette appears pretty normal in most areas except...wait...look in the lower left corner of the card, next to the "Illus." text. You can pretty clearly see some snowflake rosettes. This means that this is just a printer variation- this might be what a slightly darker or lighter card looks like underneath high resolution. This might be the result of a minor file setting tweaked between runs, or perhaps a dirty printer nozzle, or something else, but the snowflake distinctly appears on a different copy. The blacks are all solid black, the rosette in all cases is orderly and consistent, and the backsides (which are run at a different time) all look identically good. Also, the wear on all of these cards appears very natural and normal, not consistent with someone trying to artificially age a card. Pretty sure all of these would pass a light test no problem.
I should note that the scans don't show the magenta flecks in the green mana dot. This is probably due to the scanner not picking it up, it's a pretty tiny detail, and may not even be present on all cards anyway because these cards look very real from the scans, even if one of them has a minor, but consistent print variation across the entire card- another copy replicates this variation in part, and so I feel much better about it.
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@Ebonclaw Thank you so much for your input I did run them through a light test and they pretty much the same light through, and compared it to a revised card I had it looks the same with the innerglue. You touched on everything i was worried about. Thanks again. I have a full playset of badlands time to work on bayou.
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You can also tell us if the card feels slicker than normal when taken out of the sleeve, as most fakes use different ink and primer than real cards. Just note that unplayed cards feel bit different from played copies.
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It's actually the one labeled (1) that I'm concerned about. Notice it's got the different rosette pattern compared to the other two. Get up some full scans of all three of them, fronts and backs for the best comparison and I think the community will be able to provide a much better opinion. The Badlands labeled (2) actually just looks like a nice, clean dual.
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One scan, all three cards, side by side by side face up.
One scan, all three cards, side by side by side face down.
Don't tell me which one is the suspect- let's see if we can ID it from good scans alone.
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I should note that the scans don't show the magenta flecks in the green mana dot. This is probably due to the scanner not picking it up, it's a pretty tiny detail, and may not even be present on all cards anyway because these cards look very real from the scans, even if one of them has a minor, but consistent print variation across the entire card- another copy replicates this variation in part, and so I feel much better about it.
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