I'm actually really hoping that RtRtR doesn't have shocks, and they do something else. The RtR supply was so huge, they are still plentiful, and prices have barely gone up at all since they were in. I absolutely believe in reprinting cards, price and availability should not be obstacles, but there are so many other things they could do, ZEN fetches first among them. I just don't think that $10 lands that still have SO MUCH supply would be a wise move. Look at the M15 pain land cycle, or the Filters. Supply is higher than demand is even thinking about being, and a pain land is usually not worth a pack. If Shocks got another huge printing, I think it would crash the prices and it would actually backfire, they wouldn't sell the set because they wouldn't be chase cards. I can still get a box of anything in RtR block for the same prices as when they were new, and that's with a GREAT draft format.
There will be rioting in the streets if they don't do shocks and the shock + checkland mana base is what made Innistrad + RTR fun for a lot of people. They have every reason to reprint the shocks and I'm 100% on board with a third reprint, since we likely wont get another one for years. They need to save the BFZ lands for the return to Kamigawa that is coming up later after Ravnica. Shock lands are a modern staple and people do not trade out of them unless they are strictly draft players or standard players. Plus, even though there were many copies printed, a huge number are just sitting in sealed boxes no one is opening because the box EV of RTR and Gate Crash.
1. (Ravnica Allegiance): You can't keep a good esper control deck down... Or Wilderness Reclamation... or Gates...
2. (War of the Spark): Guys, I know what we need! We need a cycle of really idiotic flavor text victory cards! Jace's Triumph...
3. (War of the Spark): Lets make the format with control have even more control!
I'm actually really hoping that RtRtR doesn't have shocks, and they do something else. The RtR supply was so huge, they are still plentiful, and prices have barely gone up at all since they were in. I absolutely believe in reprinting cards, price and availability should not be obstacles, but there are so many other things they could do, ZEN fetches first among them. I just don't think that $10 lands that still have SO MUCH supply would be a wise move. Look at the M15 pain land cycle, or the Filters. Supply is higher than demand is even thinking about being, and a pain land is usually not worth a pack. If Shocks got another huge printing, I think it would crash the prices and it would actually backfire, they wouldn't sell the set because they wouldn't be chase cards. I can still get a box of anything in RtR block for the same prices as when they were new, and that's with a GREAT draft format.
There will be rioting in the streets if they don't do shocks and the shock + checkland mana base is what made Innistrad + RTR fun for a lot of people. They have every reason to reprint the shocks and I'm 100% on board with a third reprint, since we likely wont get another one for years. They need to save the BFZ lands for the return to Kamigawa that is coming up later after Ravnica.
I just think the shine will wear off the shocks for people when they are effectively worthless. I know we probably won't get another one for years, that's not a bad thing, at this rate it won't be needed for years. it could also be a good chance to have shocks somewhere else, not 'if we are not going to this plane for the FOURTH block, you just aren't getting shocks, new Reserved list.
And I said ZEN, the fetches. to hell with the BFZ lands, they sucked. The ZEN fetches are in DIRE need of a proper reprint, the Masters set has already worn off almost completely
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I believe it was Maro that was telling the story of when they decided to to do the first Return to Ravnica block. He said the first discussion basically went like this:
Everybody in R&D: We should be in the shocklands.
Everybody in R&D: We know, we just said that.
Despite being printed with "flavor neutral" names, they've become tied to Ravnica. We will get the shocklands, but I think we'll also get something else in the 3rd set, the one that Maro has said will be very different from what we're used to.
Either they print something else that it's neither shocklands nor bycicle lands. Or... Paylands. Pay 1 life makes online player happy because of they skip triggers. I belive there still room for 5 or even 10 new cycles of duals. They probably already have developed some of them and they are just waiting for the right environment to print them.
The painland cycle was unfortnately named with non neutral plane names.
There will be rioting in the streets if they don't do shocks and the shock + checkland mana base is what made Innistrad + RTR fun for a lot of people. They have every reason to reprint the shocks and I'm 100% on board with a third reprint, since we likely wont get another one for years. They need to save the BFZ lands for the return to Kamigawa that is coming up later after Ravnica. Shock lands are a modern staple and people do not trade out of them unless they are strictly draft players or standard players. Plus, even though there were many copies printed, a huge number are just sitting in sealed boxes no one is opening because the box EV of RTR and Gate Crash.
1. (Ravnica Allegiance): You can't keep a good esper control deck down... Or Wilderness Reclamation... or Gates...
2. (War of the Spark): Guys, I know what we need! We need a cycle of really idiotic flavor text victory cards! Jace's Triumph...
3. (War of the Spark): Lets make the format with control have even more control!
I just think the shine will wear off the shocks for people when they are effectively worthless. I know we probably won't get another one for years, that's not a bad thing, at this rate it won't be needed for years. it could also be a good chance to have shocks somewhere else, not 'if we are not going to this plane for the FOURTH block, you just aren't getting shocks, new Reserved list.
And I said ZEN, the fetches. to hell with the BFZ lands, they sucked. The ZEN fetches are in DIRE need of a proper reprint, the Masters set has already worn off almost completely
Everybody in R&D: We should be in the shocklands.
Everybody in R&D: We know, we just said that.
Despite being printed with "flavor neutral" names, they've become tied to Ravnica. We will get the shocklands, but I think we'll also get something else in the 3rd set, the one that Maro has said will be very different from what we're used to.
The painland cycle was unfortnately named with non neutral plane names.