3, to be precise. Out of 34 cards that create emblems (and out of 97 planeswalker cards).
Three? There's Sorin and?
Gideon of the Trials, my guess for third would be Gideon, Ally of Zendikar, it doesn't actually meet the non-ult requirement but I guess they counted it because it can ult the turn its played?
They're all the last ability with the highest loyalty? I guess we just don't agree on what an "ult" is.
I definitely don't think a 0 costing ability can be considered an ult regardless of its place on the card. This does mean several walkers don't have ults, mostly Gideons.
I would rather believe that all walkers have ults, and some just have really cheap (free) ones.
I would rather believe that all walkers have ults, and some just have really cheap (free) ones.
Then what do you consider ults? Saying that the last loyalty ability on any planeswalker is an ultimate one is clean and fitting for the actual definition of "ultimate," but anything else would just be confusing.
I would rather believe that all walkers have ults, and some just have really cheap (free) ones.
Then what do you consider ults? Saying that the last loyalty ability on any planeswalker is an ultimate one is clean and fitting for the actual definition of "ultimate," but anything else would just be confusing.
Makes sense to me, as long as "last" also means "bottom on the back" for flippy walkers like that one Garruk.
Tangentially related, it could be argued that spells like Riding the Dilu Horse should create an emblem that lasts as long as the creature is in play. Something along the lines of "Target a creature, you gain an emblem with "The Targeted creature gets +2/+2 and gains horsemanship", exile this emblem when that creature leaves play.
Card advantage is not the same thing as card draw. Something for 2B cannot be strictly worse than something for BBB or 3BB. If you're taking out Swords to Plowshares for Plummet, you're a fool. Stop doing these things!
i think emblems are a garbage addition to the game, everyones response is kill the card before it turns into an emblem..because at that point..you cannot kill the emblem..and the card is gone..an emblem isn't a reminder..it's an invulnerable ability to screw you every turn. I just got beat by a player that had teferi hero of dominaria..ok, so he's playing constant counter spells puts out one creature..and spells spells spells..kills my every chance to get rid of his enchantments and creature and then when he's had that hero long enough it turns or he turned it into an emblem..now he can just sit back with a hand full of counters and exile everything on my side of the board..and all the stuff i managed to try and lock down his stuff with. You lot seem to think that's a good addition? HAHAHA
i think emblems are a garbage addition to the game, everyones response is kill the card before it turns into an emblem..because at that point..you cannot kill the emblem..and the card is gone..an emblem isn't a reminder..it's an invulnerable ability to screw you every turn. I just got beat by a player that had teferi hero of dominaria..ok, so he's playing constant counter spells puts out one creature..and spells spells spells..kills my every chance to get rid of his enchantments and creature and then when he's had that hero long enough it turns or he turned it into an emblem..now he can just sit back with a hand full of counters and exile everything on my side of the board..and all the stuff i managed to try and lock down his stuff with. You lot seem to think that's a good addition? HAHAHA
Well salt certainly doesn't remove emblems.
Like with any deck with PWs, if you let it go that far to ultimate you weren't going to win in the first place, no matter if they did ultimate or not. Teferi just happens to better on average to stick around, but every deck right now has answers and he's terrible against aggro so...
No. Emblems were created in the 2010 rules update to resolve issues with memory surrounding Elspeth, Knight-Errant's ultimate. Check the printed text on the ALA version: "For the rest of the game, artifacts, creatures, enchantments, and lands you control are indestructible". Emblems have never been permanents you can interact with.
I would rather believe that all walkers have ults, and some just have really cheap (free) ones.
Then what do you consider ults? Saying that the last loyalty ability on any planeswalker is an ultimate one is clean and fitting for the actual definition of "ultimate," but anything else would just be confusing.
Makes sense to me, as long as "last" also means "bottom on the back" for flippy walkers like that one Garruk.
They could've used "You get an emblem with "You have no maximum hand size."" but they didn't just because it's specifically a planeswalker thing.
On phasing:
Well salt certainly doesn't remove emblems.
Like with any deck with PWs, if you let it go that far to ultimate you weren't going to win in the first place, no matter if they did ultimate or not. Teferi just happens to better on average to stick around, but every deck right now has answers and he's terrible against aggro so...
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