It's going to happen eventually, either due to a mistake that hemorrhages players, getting outsold by competition, Wizards getting sold by Hasbro, a major scandal, economic downturn, etc. At the end of the day, we are paying massive amounts of money for scraps of cardboard, so it's not like we can close out ears to the idea of a bust some time in the future.
I mean it's something I've thought of a bit but it doesn't really scare me all too much. Magic is pretty popular in my area. I mean I guess standard could keep tanking but I dunno if Magic is in a spot to absolutely stop right now. maybe I've just seen magic attendance be actually bad in my area
Honestly, even if Wizards shut its doors, I think the game would continue, at least for a good while. First, there's so many cards out there now, so we already have enough more decks/concepts/mechanics than anyone could conceivably master anytime soon. Second, even if WotC were to go down, I wouldn't be shocked if another company bought the rights to the game, depending on whether they felt they could make money on it.
And if not, well, bummer. None of us were guaranteed anything when we bought into this game.
So, supply of cards will cease? That means the card price will rise. Imagine 10 years after Magic is gone, how much a Modern Masters 2017 booster will cost? People are selling old candy wraping in ebay, at least you can play with these cardboards.
Besides, if WotC falls other people will be hosting tournaments, for sure... Look at how EDH was regulated with its own banlist and rules.
I believe WoTC's new policy is to make sure that every color can enjoy the exciting gameplay mechanic of making undercosted dudes and then turning them sideways. Clearly the future of magic.
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I bet that a decent number of cards would retain value as collector's items, even if the game died. Magic has been around long enough, and is big enough, so I bet that plenty of cards would get a reaction like "Ooooooooh, an old Magic card!" I have lots of bulk and value cards that I don't intend to ever get rid of, even 10 or 20 years from now. Even if the game or Wizards die, I'll hang on to them. And anyway, we could all teach the game to a new generation anyway, even if no new cards are being made. I can imagine all our future kids and grandkids inheriting boxes of cards. Sounds like we would still get our money's worth out of them!
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Honestly, even if Wizards shut its doors, I think the game would continue, at least for a good while.
See, for example, the Buffy the Vampire Slayer Collectible Card Game. It was shut down in 2004, and then players continued to print new sets online and run tournaments worldwide.
If you at any point view Magic as a reliable investment, I got bad news for you lol I think if Wizards ever shut down, the game would keep going strong for years and years after. Just means no new sets, is all, and as others are saying I'm sure someone would buy it out or players would create their own sets
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It's a possibility but it really all depends on whether or not If the current R&D staff at Wizards of the Coast are still enthusiastic enough about the game keep it going however their design philosophy in recent sets leads me to believe that they no longer have the best interest of the player base in mind and are willing to sacrifice competitive play for casual just so that they can keep saturating the market with more MTG products that does little to even the balance between competitive and casual environments.
Even though Wizards of the Coast designs cards in advance they seemed to have forgotten about the repercussions of how excessive power creep can hurt formats like Standard and Modern when left unchecked yet the change they made to the Standard rotation cycle prior to how it was beforehand has ended up increasing the barrier of entry for newcomers to get into the format (as If expensive land bases in Modern wasn't bad enough) instead of the opposite which as an end result pushes these players to other formats in the game or they move on to something else.
I guess this begs the question of just how much influence Hasbro has over Wizards of the Coast when it comes to properly managing MTG whether If it's for the best interest of the players who continue to support the game or something else entirely. What's really going on within the R&D staff who work at Wizards of the Coast that allows these sort of things to go unnoticed unless If there's a fundamental problem with the current state of the company that hasn't been an issue since MTG's inception.
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"Restriction breeds creativity." - Sheldon Menery on EDH / Commander in Magic: The Gathering
"Cancel Culture is the real reason why everyone's not allowed to have nice things anymore." - Anonymous
"For what will it profit a man if he gains the whole world, and loses his own soul?" - Mark 8:36
"Most men and women will grow up to love their servitude and will never dream of revolution." - Aldous Huxley, Brave New World
"Every life decision is always a risk / reward proposition." - Sanjay Gupta
It's a possibility but it really all depends on whether or not If the current R&D staff at Wizards of the Coast are still enthusiastic enough about the game keep it going however their design philosophy in recent sets leads me to believe that they no longer have the best interest of the player base in mind and are willing to sacrifice competitive play for casual just so that they can keep saturating the market with more MTG products that does little to even the balance between competitive and casual environments.
Even though Wizards of the Coast designs cards in advance they seemed to have forgotten about the repercussions of how excessive power creep can hurt formats like Standard and Modern when left unchecked yet the change they made to the Standard rotation cycle prior to how it was beforehand has ended up increasing the barrier of entry for newcomers to get into the format (as If expensive land bases in Modern wasn't bad enough) instead of the opposite which as an end result pushes these players to other formats in the game or they move on to something else.
I guess this begs the question of just how much influence Hasbro has over Wizards of the Coast when it comes to properly managing MTG whether If it's for the best interest of the players who continue to support the game or something else entirely. What's really going on within the R&D staff who work at Wizards of the Coast that allows these sort of things to go unnoticed unless If there's a fundamental problem with the current state of the company that hasn't been an issue since MTG's inception.
The recent focus on Limited as something to consider for design does make me wonder how much Hasbro is impelling WotC to focus on what will bring in the most immediate sales. It really doesn't help that in current corporate/shareholder culture, all that matters is maximizing the next quarter's profits. Sacrificing some quarterly growth for even better results at the end of the year apparently results in shareholders abandoning you (which makes me wonder just what is so important about immediate profit for shareholders. What are they trying to pay for?). It could explain why research is focusing so much more on attracting novices than retaining the experienced.
The recent focus on Limited as something to consider for design does make me wonder how much Hasbro is impelling WotC to focus on what will bring in the most immediate sales. It really doesn't help that in current corporate/shareholder culture, all that matters is maximizing the next quarter's profits. Sacrificing some quarterly growth for even better results at the end of the year apparently results in shareholders abandoning you (which makes me wonder just what is so important about immediate profit for shareholders. What are they trying to pay for?). It could explain why research is focusing so much more on attracting novices than retaining the experienced.
What Hasbro and Wizards of the Coast fail to grasp is that innovation in MTG comes from the community itself, not from Wizards of the Coast and the parent company they work for being Hasbro. What powers a community such as this one is the expectation of what MTG could be while what separates this from online gaming is the ability to turn these expectations of reality into our own.
"Restriction breeds creativity." - Sheldon Menery on EDH / Commander in Magic: The Gathering
"Cancel Culture is the real reason why everyone's not allowed to have nice things anymore." - Anonymous
"For what will it profit a man if he gains the whole world, and loses his own soul?" - Mark 8:36
"Most men and women will grow up to love their servitude and will never dream of revolution." - Aldous Huxley, Brave New World
"Every life decision is always a risk / reward proposition." - Sanjay Gupta
Nope. I do not worry about it because I do not see WoTC killing MTG. If anything they are going to innovate and find new ways to get more people into the game. I only see it getting bigger in the future. BUT, if they did stop printing MTG cards, I would not sell mine. I do not have tons of expensive cards or anything, I would rather keep them for myself to play. Even if the cards stop printing, people will still play.
Seems like it's making money like crazy, so I have no fear of this happening in the near future. But even if they stop printing new sets, I'm not worried about it. I have some modern decks, a legacy deck, a cube, etc. I can still draft with the cube. I can still play in tournaments with my decks. It's not like they've printed a new chess piece recently, and people still play that. Same with any other self contained game. There's so much more to Magic than many board and card games. I see no reason for it to "die" just because it stops getting printed.
I could see the prices bottom out quickly if WOTC decided to stop printing, as people don't want to get stuck holding worthless cards. But over time I think the prices would actually go up for some of them. There would still be people playing, but there would be no chance for reprints like Modern Masters or Eternal Masters to bring card prices down in the future. The cards already printed would be all we have, and with so many people having played over the years it would have the nostalgia factor at the very least.
I could also see some company buying the rights and just making reprint sets. There would be so much money to be made just in printing stuff like an Innistrad Block Cube or World Championship Decks from throughout the years. I guess I know that WOTC could stop printing one day...I just don't see that being the end of Magic. Things would change, but it wouldn't all just disappear.
Solution is to have 2 decks. Then you can play as long as you like. Arguably to anyone who doesnt play/ collect the cards are already worthless but to those who do they will always hold a value beyond money.
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People still pay silly money for certain Blood Wars cards. The Star Wars and Star Trek CCG's still hold some degree of value, albeit small. Netrunner had a player base still, as does Jyhad. If WotC closed their doors tomorrow, there would still be millions of people who love the game. Even at its current nadir, it's a good game. The 93/94 format is gaining popularity.
Even if WotC closes, my cards still exist and are functional. I can still play.
I've been away from the game for about a year. Is this a realistic risk in the near future? I know Standard isn't super-fun right now, but I've been through several iterations of a format being "broken" for a couple rotations before.
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Salt is part of the game. Deal with it.
And if not, well, bummer. None of us were guaranteed anything when we bought into this game.
So, supply of cards will cease? That means the card price will rise. Imagine 10 years after Magic is gone, how much a Modern Masters 2017 booster will cost? People are selling old candy wraping in ebay, at least you can play with these cardboards.
Besides, if WotC falls other people will be hosting tournaments, for sure... Look at how EDH was regulated with its own banlist and rules.
UBR Sedris
RG Omnath, Locus of Rage
UB The Scarab God
RUG Maelstrom Wanderer
WU Dragonlord Ojutai
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Even though Wizards of the Coast designs cards in advance they seemed to have forgotten about the repercussions of how excessive power creep can hurt formats like Standard and Modern when left unchecked yet the change they made to the Standard rotation cycle prior to how it was beforehand has ended up increasing the barrier of entry for newcomers to get into the format (as If expensive land bases in Modern wasn't bad enough) instead of the opposite which as an end result pushes these players to other formats in the game or they move on to something else.
I guess this begs the question of just how much influence Hasbro has over Wizards of the Coast when it comes to properly managing MTG whether If it's for the best interest of the players who continue to support the game or something else entirely. What's really going on within the R&D staff who work at Wizards of the Coast that allows these sort of things to go unnoticed unless If there's a fundamental problem with the current state of the company that hasn't been an issue since MTG's inception.
"Restriction breeds creativity." - Sheldon Menery on EDH / Commander in Magic: The Gathering
"Cancel Culture is the real reason why everyone's not allowed to have nice things anymore." - Anonymous
"For what will it profit a man if he gains the whole world, and loses his own soul?" - Mark 8:36
"Most men and women will grow up to love their servitude and will never dream of revolution." - Aldous Huxley, Brave New World
"Every life decision is always a risk / reward proposition." - Sanjay Gupta
The recent focus on Limited as something to consider for design does make me wonder how much Hasbro is impelling WotC to focus on what will bring in the most immediate sales. It really doesn't help that in current corporate/shareholder culture, all that matters is maximizing the next quarter's profits. Sacrificing some quarterly growth for even better results at the end of the year apparently results in shareholders abandoning you (which makes me wonder just what is so important about immediate profit for shareholders. What are they trying to pay for?). It could explain why research is focusing so much more on attracting novices than retaining the experienced.
"Restriction breeds creativity." - Sheldon Menery on EDH / Commander in Magic: The Gathering
"Cancel Culture is the real reason why everyone's not allowed to have nice things anymore." - Anonymous
"For what will it profit a man if he gains the whole world, and loses his own soul?" - Mark 8:36
"Most men and women will grow up to love their servitude and will never dream of revolution." - Aldous Huxley, Brave New World
"Every life decision is always a risk / reward proposition." - Sanjay Gupta
I could see the prices bottom out quickly if WOTC decided to stop printing, as people don't want to get stuck holding worthless cards. But over time I think the prices would actually go up for some of them. There would still be people playing, but there would be no chance for reprints like Modern Masters or Eternal Masters to bring card prices down in the future. The cards already printed would be all we have, and with so many people having played over the years it would have the nostalgia factor at the very least.
I could also see some company buying the rights and just making reprint sets. There would be so much money to be made just in printing stuff like an Innistrad Block Cube or World Championship Decks from throughout the years. I guess I know that WOTC could stop printing one day...I just don't see that being the end of Magic. Things would change, but it wouldn't all just disappear.
BRGKresh the BloodbraidedBRG, A box of lands and ideas.
Modern:
RG Titanshift. A deck made of cards too stupid for EDH.
Retired: Lots. More than I feel you should suffer through or I should type out.
this
Salt is part of the game. Deal with it.
Even if WotC closes, my cards still exist and are functional. I can still play.
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