So since im bored at work figured id ask to get a convo going. So what is the etiquette on offering a hand shake after a game?
Reason I ask is because I notice at my local FNM seems alot of people wont shake your hand after you beat them even if it was a good game or not, mainly just trying to be friendly and seems and kinda rude to not shake someones hand after a good game if they offer it.
Now ive been to grand prixs and stuff and never have someone act like this so what is the etiquette?
Anyway, I always try to offer a handshake after a match, regardless of the result or how lopsided a game was. I admit it can be awkward for the loser to accept if they were blown out, since many games cannot be called a "good game" if mana problems occurred or whatnot.
Lol your right its shake not shack have no idea what I was thinking.
Idk I mean me myself even if I get mana screwed and wtf stomped I still offer a shake. I know everyone wants to win, but I feel its good etiquette to shake hands if someone offers it no matter how the match went but maybe im wrong?
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On topic: handshakes are generally offered by the loser. It is good etiquette for the winner to offer a solid "good game" with eye contact and a smile. If a handshake is offered by either party, it is good sportsmanship to accept, regardless of any post game animosity you may be harboring.
I think many people are just germaphobes, some justified. Other people may just not want to shake hands because they feel "salty", like someone else here referred to.
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Im going to be honest here. I dont offer handshakes.
If the other person offers a shake I'll usually do it just to be polite. But I hate that its seen as "rude" to not touch the hands of other random people.
Its an anachronism intended to display that your dominant hand isnt holding a weapon. And it should have faded out after we discovered the basic concepts of how diseases spread.
Im going to be honest here. I dont offer handshakes.
If the other person offers a shake I'll usually do it just to be polite. But I hate that its seen as "rude" to not touch the hands of other random people.
Its an anachronism intended to display that your dominant hand isnt holding a weapon. And it should have faded out after we discovered the basic concepts of how diseases spread.
That's exactly how I am too. It would seem odd to me to shake hands with that many people (I play a lot of matches), especially when there are plenty of other ways to "acknowledge" your opponent.
I also shake hands with anyone who wants to do so. I've read "horror" stories where an opponent wants to shake hands after you've been mana hosed while they curved perfectly. Luckily for me, I haven't had that happen yet; even the newer Magic players seem to notice when someone doesn't play a land drop after 2.
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I shake if it's offered, but I never offer. I find many people in my LGS unsanitary, so I don't quite want to shake their hands. Additionally, I wipe my hands down before I play, so I don't want to contaminate them again.
I usually offer a handshake and say "good game" after I lose. If I win a match I don't do this, as it's seen as bad etiquette (gloating).
At tournaments I always carry around pocket hand sanitizer spray, so I can clean my hands after matches without having to wait in line for the bathroom (at stores that have a single person bathroom for 60 people).
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What drives me crazy is how many people at my LGS have such weak handshakes. There's few things worse than going for a handshake and the other person has this limp noodle of a hand.
I think many people are just germaphobes, some justified. Other people may just not want to shake hands because they feel "salty", like someone else here referred to.
We have a "Germaphobe" at my local FNM. But he would "Pound it" instead of giving people a hand shake.
But I also offer up my hand win or lose. I think it is just common practice to tell someone good game after you win or lose. If people get salty after they lose then so be it. But I am not going to stop being a nice guy because people are sore about losing a match.
Funny you should post this, at a local FNM a week or so back a guy next to me got angry after losing a game and the winner offered a handshake and made a big fuss about how he doesn't do handshakes after a loss.
What really got me was THE NEXT WEEK, yes a full 7 days later, he was still ANGRY at that incident and overhead him *****ing about the guy who offered the handshake.
Epic ******** move. And it's a big turn off to the atmosphere. I've seen that this is a niche etiquette that the loser offers only, but honestly it's just poor sportsmanship to get angry if it's the winner that offers.
I then later on played that same person who went 2-0 when I was 1-1 and he complained about how he got paired down with me NOW THAT IS POOR ETIQUETTE. I didn't say a word, but aside from the handshakephobia people have, I can not for the life of me, see how people think it's not rude or acceptable to say to your opponent "Oh you lost your last match, I got paired down, lucky you" - which is a consistent bad habit I see at FNMs. NEVER SAY THAT TO SOMEONE, it's a turn off.
Luckily I won that match and the guy left without saying bye just silent and was rather dry and bitter throughout the match. I made the top 8 that day despite the fact I lost the first match of the night, so I know not to get insecure at an FNM about tie breakers as losing the first game is supposedly the worst game to lose, yet every top 8 I've made, I lost the very first match, so I'd never complain at being paired down from 2-0 to someone. Geez.
I usually just say "good game" and move along. If somebody want's to shake my hand, I'll generally accept. However, if I know that person is unsanitary, sick, or just flat out unhygienic, then I'll give an excuse of "oh sorry, but I think I'm coming down with an illness" or something equivalent.
I always return a handshake, and I always offer one after I lose. I never offer one on a win. If I win and my opponent doesn't offer, I'll say something like "It was nice to meet you" instead of "Good game."
This formula comes from playing a ton of Starcraft - in that world, typing gg "for" your opponent on a win is one of the worst insults imaginable.
I cannot conceive of a situation where hands wouldn't be shaken after a game of Magic. Both players, regardless of winning or losing, should fight to be the first in offering a firm handshake.
If we all just stood around with our hands in our pockets waiting for the other player to offer a handshake, we would grow old in waiting. Time colliding to a halt as everyone looked off into the distance, wondering when dignity and respect left this lofty pursuit called Magic.
While I admit to meeting players who are... reluctant to offer a handshake, it is understable and tolerable in that not everyone is made of strong stuff and it falls to those of us who are to show these wilting lilies what it takes to call oneself a Magic player.
Refusing a handshake, however, is an act so morally pernicious that any player who even allows the notion to enter their mind may as well sell their collection, kiss their girl and/or boyfriend goodbye and embark on a world-length journey to rediscover their purpose in the universe.
Always offer my hand. The one thing that gets me is the cocky players who will reveal a winning card and shove their hand out before their opponent has time to even react. Kind of perverts the gesture.
I always offer the handshake, doesn't matter if I win or lose. It's basic politeness to me, like shaking someones hand when you meet them (or a hug if you already know each other).
This. Also, it is a nice friendly gesture to dissolve any tension from the game. Who knows if you two might be playing together again at the LGS?
That being said, I have met some people with attitudes (cocky winners and sore losers) who just radiate intense unfriendliness and make the game a massive pain (even pre-releases). Some people really need to learn to relax.
I almost always offer a friendly handshake after a match. It's just the polite thing to do, but if someone appears bitter about a bad loss due to mana screw or whatnot, it's acceptable to not offer one. Oh, and I wonder how many of these "Germophobes" think about wiping down the doorhandle upon enetring their LGS, or the table they are playing on, or any other surface they might have come into contact with, lol. It always strikes me as funny when they are like that and still come to a social event like FNM. No offence, but it seems like MTGO might be your thing if you are afflicted with Germophobia.
It's not germaphobia to not want to touch every random stranger you meet during flu season. Thats just common sense.
Its the folks obsessed with making physical contact with people they dont even know that are the bizarre ones. Thats certainly not the only way to politely interact with people.
If someone offers a handshake, I'll shake. I won't offer a handshake mainly because I don't like handshakes in general. I'll generally say "Good luck in your next match" or something to that effect.
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Reason I ask is because I notice at my local FNM seems alot of people wont shake your hand after you beat them even if it was a good game or not, mainly just trying to be friendly and seems and kinda rude to not shake someones hand after a good game if they offer it.
Now ive been to grand prixs and stuff and never have someone act like this so what is the etiquette?
Modern:
BRG DEMIGOD Jund GRB
UB TEZZ Control BU
Ok, had to get that out of my system....
Anyway, I always try to offer a handshake after a match, regardless of the result or how lopsided a game was. I admit it can be awkward for the loser to accept if they were blown out, since many games cannot be called a "good game" if mana problems occurred or whatnot.
Idk I mean me myself even if I get mana screwed and wtf stomped I still offer a shake. I know everyone wants to win, but I feel its good etiquette to shake hands if someone offers it no matter how the match went but maybe im wrong?
Modern:
BRG DEMIGOD Jund GRB
UB TEZZ Control BU
That makes sense, I can agree with that.
Modern:
BRG DEMIGOD Jund GRB
UB TEZZ Control BU
On topic: handshakes are generally offered by the loser. It is good etiquette for the winner to offer a solid "good game" with eye contact and a smile. If a handshake is offered by either party, it is good sportsmanship to accept, regardless of any post game animosity you may be harboring.
I think many people are just germaphobes, some justified. Other people may just not want to shake hands because they feel "salty", like someone else here referred to.
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Draft - (I wish I had more time for limited...)
Commander -
Norin the Wary, Grimgrin, Adun Oakenshield (taking forever to build)(dead format for me)If the other person offers a shake I'll usually do it just to be polite. But I hate that its seen as "rude" to not touch the hands of other random people.
Its an anachronism intended to display that your dominant hand isnt holding a weapon. And it should have faded out after we discovered the basic concepts of how diseases spread.
It just seems like good form to acknowledge the opponent
But you know, I'm Canadian and yadi yada
That's exactly how I am too. It would seem odd to me to shake hands with that many people (I play a lot of matches), especially when there are plenty of other ways to "acknowledge" your opponent.
I also shake hands with anyone who wants to do so. I've read "horror" stories where an opponent wants to shake hands after you've been mana hosed while they curved perfectly. Luckily for me, I haven't had that happen yet; even the newer Magic players seem to notice when someone doesn't play a land drop after 2.
Premodern - Trix, RecSur, Enchantress, Reanimator, Elves https://www.facebook.com/groups/PremodernUSA/
Modern - Neobrand, Hogaak Vine, Elves
Standard - Mono Red (6-2 and 5-3 in 2 McQ)
Draft - (I wish I had more time for limited...)
Commander -
Norin the Wary, Grimgrin, Adun Oakenshield (taking forever to build)(dead format for me)At tournaments I always carry around pocket hand sanitizer spray, so I can clean my hands after matches without having to wait in line for the bathroom (at stores that have a single person bathroom for 60 people).
I just think its polite and is a show of good sportsmanship.
I should get in the habit of saying "thanks for the game" instead of "good game"
We have a "Germaphobe" at my local FNM. But he would "Pound it" instead of giving people a hand shake.
But I also offer up my hand win or lose. I think it is just common practice to tell someone good game after you win or lose. If people get salty after they lose then so be it. But I am not going to stop being a nice guy because people are sore about losing a match.
This.
I also try to not say "good game". I do, however, say "Thank you for the games".
What really got me was THE NEXT WEEK, yes a full 7 days later, he was still ANGRY at that incident and overhead him *****ing about the guy who offered the handshake.
Epic ******** move. And it's a big turn off to the atmosphere. I've seen that this is a niche etiquette that the loser offers only, but honestly it's just poor sportsmanship to get angry if it's the winner that offers.
I then later on played that same person who went 2-0 when I was 1-1 and he complained about how he got paired down with me NOW THAT IS POOR ETIQUETTE. I didn't say a word, but aside from the handshakephobia people have, I can not for the life of me, see how people think it's not rude or acceptable to say to your opponent "Oh you lost your last match, I got paired down, lucky you" - which is a consistent bad habit I see at FNMs. NEVER SAY THAT TO SOMEONE, it's a turn off.
Luckily I won that match and the guy left without saying bye just silent and was rather dry and bitter throughout the match. I made the top 8 that day despite the fact I lost the first match of the night, so I know not to get insecure at an FNM about tie breakers as losing the first game is supposedly the worst game to lose, yet every top 8 I've made, I lost the very first match, so I'd never complain at being paired down from 2-0 to someone. Geez.
Usually works out for me either way.
This formula comes from playing a ton of Starcraft - in that world, typing gg "for" your opponent on a win is one of the worst insults imaginable.
If we all just stood around with our hands in our pockets waiting for the other player to offer a handshake, we would grow old in waiting. Time colliding to a halt as everyone looked off into the distance, wondering when dignity and respect left this lofty pursuit called Magic.
While I admit to meeting players who are... reluctant to offer a handshake, it is understable and tolerable in that not everyone is made of strong stuff and it falls to those of us who are to show these wilting lilies what it takes to call oneself a Magic player.
Refusing a handshake, however, is an act so morally pernicious that any player who even allows the notion to enter their mind may as well sell their collection, kiss their girl and/or boyfriend goodbye and embark on a world-length journey to rediscover their purpose in the universe.
This. Also, it is a nice friendly gesture to dissolve any tension from the game. Who knows if you two might be playing together again at the LGS?
That being said, I have met some people with attitudes (cocky winners and sore losers) who just radiate intense unfriendliness and make the game a massive pain (even pre-releases). Some people really need to learn to relax.
Its the folks obsessed with making physical contact with people they dont even know that are the bizarre ones. Thats certainly not the only way to politely interact with people.