Reposting this here in the hopes that the thief is found:
Eli Kassis had a lot of stuff stolen earlier today from his car. Please be in the look out for the following things among others:
I am not done figuring out what he missed in my deck boxes yet but heres a confirmed list of stolen items Im 100% sure he got and their approximate values for everyone to be on the lookout for. keep in mind there is a insanely big reward, even for the thief who would not have to go to jail either.
1x beta lotus MP+ $2,500
1x unlimited lotus SP+ $1,350
1x beta mox Sapphire mp $800
1x beta mox sapphire SP $950
1x beta mox jet SP $850
1x beta mox jet MP $650
1x beta mox ruby SP- $600
1x beta mox pearl mp $550
1x alpha time vault SP $750
1x beta mox emerald MP+ $600
1x beta Ancestral recall MP $750
1x beta time walk MP $650
16 underground sea $2,400
14 tundra $1,400
17 volcanic island $1,700
3 unlimited taiga MP $150
14 Tropical island $1,400
7x japanese foil must rainforest $2,800
4x japanese foil bloodstained mire $2,000
4x japanese foil wooded foothills $2,000
4x japanese foil arid Mesa $600
4x japanese foil marsh flats $600
3x japanese foil tarmogoyf $3000
2x Miscut badlands $1000
2x Miscut savannah $1,500
3x Miscut underground sea $5,600
1x Miscut bayou $800
3x Miscut Taiga $1,950
3x Miscut tropical island $3,000
4x Miscut plateau $2,000
4x japanese foil academy rector $450
4x Korean natural order $300
16x force of will $1,280
30 FWB German Duals (mixed) $2,000
40 death rite shamans $480
4 foil death rite shaman $200
4x foil japanese lord of Atlantis timespiral $160
4x japanese foil merrow reejery $100
4x foil wasteland $440
8x beta tundra SP$6,400
2x beta badlands nm-$1,000
2x beta Savannah nm- $1,200
1x beta underground sea MP $750
1x Fbb plateau $110
2x japanese foil knight of the reliquary $300
8x japanese foil burning wish $1,200
20x Ravnica/guild pact/dissension japanese foil shock lands $2,000
1x unlimited time twister $200
1x library of Alexandria $175
2x japanese foil goblin Welder $400
1x japanese foil grim Monolith
$250
3x Miscut Birds of paradise $450
4x japanese foil pattern or rebirth .$140
4x japanese foil nimble mongoose $300
1x japanese foil batterskull $60
1x japanese foil sword of feast and famine $120
1x japanese foil sword of war and peace $60
1x japanese foil sword of body and mind $50
4x Eureka NM, SP, MP, MP $300
2x English mana drain $250
1x Italian mana drain $100
4x Korean grindstone $160
1x japanese foil snapcaster Mage $175
4x japanese survival of the fittest $100
3x Korean survival of the fittest $120
3x japanese foil engineered explosives $600
4x japanese foil mox opal $400
100 assorted Miscut basics revised $8,000 at least
:? The Sad thing is, unleSs he posts all of that on an eBay account or something, there's not suit you can do. File a police report, and hope that you have some sort of theft insurance.
While those items are rare, none are that particularly rare.
How miscut are those revised basic lands that you value them at $80 a piece?
I'm very sorry that a player has lost so much money at an event, but I agree with Lumis. Bringing THAT much with so much value to an event is downright ridiculous. I never bring more than stuff I'm looking to trade off and a deck or two to minimize potential loss.
This is really sad. It also seems fishy. Who would know that someone had that value of cards in his car?
Also, if I had that much in Magic cards, I'd probably keep it in a fire proof safe at home that takes my fingerprint to open it.
I really hope these thieves are caught, but I don't feel very optimistic.
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In the same way you can tell someone is from the XVIII century because he is arroused by ankles, you can tell someone is from USA because he feels nipples disturbing.
:? The Sad thing is, unleSs he posts all of that on an eBay account or something, there's not suit you can do. File a police report, and hope that you have some sort of theft insurance.
While those items are rare, none are that particularly rare.
How miscut are those revised basic lands that you value them at $80 a piece?
If they're showing two cards or something ridiculous you'd be surprised what miscut basics go for. The thing about miscut basic lands is that basic lands are mainstays in every single format/the demand for them is always there.
I hope this thief gets found and prosecuted. I'm not sure how much time the thief could do in prison, but I hope it's a long time. Stealing over 50 grand worth of cards is ridiculous.
As for these items not being particularly rare, are you joking? The value of all the cards stolen is more than what the average american makes in a year of work. Tracking down every single item on that list would take someone quite a bit of work and time. Good luck finding japanese foil pattern of rebirth or miscut revised basics honestly. Sure these cards aren't test prints or summer cards, but they are still quite hard to find.
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This is really sad. It also seems fishy. Who would know that some one had that value of cards in his car?
He probably showed off a small (but expensive) part of the collection yesterday and was tracked to the car. The thief or thieves then waited until today's portion of the event and went in for the robbery hoping the cards were there. I bet whoever did it wanted to steal what they saw earlier but ended up with an unexpectedly larger purse. If caught, the person(s) responsible are looking at some serious jail time.
Since when is it okay to blame the victim? If a girl you knew was raped, would you say "Too bad but she was asking for it"?
This is the stupidest comparison iv'e ever read.
But i gotta work with whats given.
Building on your premise, if the girl was flaunting her chest near a bad area of town. Yes, she should deserve it?
The guy had THOUSANDS of dollars, in his car, unprotected, in a scg event, where other people share the same intrest.
Honestly, I feel awful for the person that lost this. I have only about 10k in total collection value, and if I lost it, I would quit paper Magic.
However, I hope the thief reads this, and realizes a lot of those cards would be somewhat hard to move, and turns in the lot for a reward. I think right now the owner wouldn't be looking to closely at anyone who found the cards "in a dumpster" if they got them all.
Don't understand card theft at all. If you need money, and are willing to break the law, there are easier ways. If you want the cards, wouldn't you feel guilt every time you went through "your" binder? I still feel bad every time I look at a spindown die of someones I walked off with during INN block, and that was an accident.
(Also, if this the Eli that is some kind of therapist? I think I met him once)
Since when is it okay to blame the victim? If a girl you knew was raped, would you say "Too bad but she was asking for it"?
I think both situations depend on the circumstances. This happened at a tournament, not outside a gas station. Having so many assets on hand means other people knew he had them, or there'd be no reason to haul it all. The wrong person found out and while that does suck, my sympathy doesn't mitigate the fact that if you can't keep an eye on all your stuff, you have too much.
That said, comparing rape to any amount of money lost on collectible cards is dirty pool, sir.
What's the point of even bringing those cards to the event? If I had cards like that and wasn't using them in some deck they would be locked up in a safe, and certainly not in my car.
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Okay, I'm not going to blame the victim. The person who did this should be taken in back of a wood shed and shot.
And maybe I'm paranoid, but I wouldn't take that kind of collection out of my house even if somebody put a gun to my head. They would have to shoot me because that's the only way those cards leave my home.
So I really have to ask. What in God's name was he thinking? I mean we're not talking about taking a couple of decks to play at an event or even bringing some cards to sell. And if he did bring them to sell, why were they in the car and not with him?
What I am really curious to ask is why this person felt the need to bring all those cards with him? Was he just bringing them to show a friend?
I simply can't wrap my head around bringing 10s of thousands of dollars of cards with you unless you were planning on unloading them or getting them appraised or something.
So to the OP, do you know WHY he brought the cards with him? I'm really curious. Because you'd have to shoot me to get all that stuff out of my site for one second.
Any additional info you can give us on why the cards were taken out of the vault would be greatly appreciated.
Building on your premise, if the girl was flaunting her chest near a bad area of town. Yes, she would deserve it.
The guy had THOUSANDS of dollars, in his car, unprotected, in a scg event, where other people share the same intrest.
It doesn't matter what she does or doesn't do, she doesn't deserve to be raped, no matter what.
I don't think anyone flaunts their collection, for all we know the victim could have had some expensive cards in his binder, and the thieves got lucky when they broke into their car. Some people just break into cars and take whatever they can find. My deck got stolen along with my friends' other cards while they were at a bar, and the thieves even took my friend's insulin and blood glucose meter. I don't think they even knew there were Magic cards in those bags, and they just took all of the backpacks.
I think both situations depend on the circumstances. This happened at a tournament, not outside a gas station. Having so many assets on hand means other people knew he had them, or there'd be no reason to haul it all. The wrong person found out and while that does suck, my sympathy doesn't mitigate the fact that if you can't keep an eye on all your stuff, you have too much.
That said, comparing rape to any amount of money lost on collectible cards is dirty pool, sir.
While rape is more serious, it's the same principle.
Building on your premise, if the girl was flaunting her chest near a bad area of town. Yes, she would deserve it.
The guy had THOUSANDS of dollars, in his car, unprotected, in a scg event, where other people share the same intrest.
Are you ****ing stupid? NO ONE DESERVES TO BE RAPED. No one deserves to be robbed of over 50 grand either, and that's what happened here. Blaming the victim is bull****, as they literally did nothing wrong. It was the actions of a person or group of people that caused this grand theft of over 50 grand in magic cards/the victim had nothing to do with it or control over it. If they checked out of their hotel room this morning, which I suspect Eli did, where else would they put the collection besides the car? Carry it on them? That sounds a tad hard considering how many cards were stolen and then you could be a victim of assault as well or just swiped off your person in the event hall. I hope Eli gets his cards back very much because he's a very good man from what I hear of him and like I said earlier, no one deserves to have more than 50 grand worth of cards stolen from them.
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I don't flaunt my collection either, despite it being worth several thousand dollars quite easily.
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Im not getting on the rape subject, the guy compared the 2 and i commented. Chill the hell out.
IT WAS MEANT TO BE COMPARED WITH THE ORIGINAL POST.
in a sense SHOWING how dumb it was to compare them in the first place.
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and i don't feel bad, people took it out of context, or i guess i missphrased it wrong, since its ALWAYS someone elses fault.
Just gonna say... hmmm 2 more pages until lock.
Eli Kassis had a lot of stuff stolen earlier today from his car. Please be in the look out for the following things among others:
I am not done figuring out what he missed in my deck boxes yet but heres a confirmed list of stolen items Im 100% sure he got and their approximate values for everyone to be on the lookout for. keep in mind there is a insanely big reward, even for the thief who would not have to go to jail either.
1x beta lotus MP+ $2,500
1x unlimited lotus SP+ $1,350
1x beta mox Sapphire mp $800
1x beta mox sapphire SP $950
1x beta mox jet SP $850
1x beta mox jet MP $650
1x beta mox ruby SP- $600
1x beta mox pearl mp $550
1x alpha time vault SP $750
1x beta mox emerald MP+ $600
1x beta Ancestral recall MP $750
1x beta time walk MP $650
16 underground sea $2,400
14 tundra $1,400
17 volcanic island $1,700
3 unlimited taiga MP $150
14 Tropical island $1,400
7x japanese foil must rainforest $2,800
4x japanese foil bloodstained mire $2,000
4x japanese foil wooded foothills $2,000
4x japanese foil arid Mesa $600
4x japanese foil marsh flats $600
3x japanese foil tarmogoyf $3000
2x Miscut badlands $1000
2x Miscut savannah $1,500
3x Miscut underground sea $5,600
1x Miscut bayou $800
3x Miscut Taiga $1,950
3x Miscut tropical island $3,000
4x Miscut plateau $2,000
4x japanese foil academy rector $450
4x Korean natural order $300
16x force of will $1,280
30 FWB German Duals (mixed) $2,000
40 death rite shamans $480
4 foil death rite shaman $200
4x foil japanese lord of Atlantis timespiral $160
4x japanese foil merrow reejery $100
4x foil wasteland $440
8x beta tundra SP$6,400
2x beta badlands nm-$1,000
2x beta Savannah nm- $1,200
1x beta underground sea MP $750
1x Fbb plateau $110
2x japanese foil knight of the reliquary $300
8x japanese foil burning wish $1,200
20x Ravnica/guild pact/dissension japanese foil shock lands $2,000
1x unlimited time twister $200
1x library of Alexandria $175
2x japanese foil goblin Welder $400
1x japanese foil grim Monolith
$250
3x Miscut Birds of paradise $450
4x japanese foil pattern or rebirth .$140
4x japanese foil nimble mongoose $300
1x japanese foil batterskull $60
1x japanese foil sword of feast and famine $120
1x japanese foil sword of war and peace $60
1x japanese foil sword of body and mind $50
4x Eureka NM, SP, MP, MP $300
2x English mana drain $250
1x Italian mana drain $100
4x Korean grindstone $160
1x japanese foil snapcaster Mage $175
4x japanese survival of the fittest $100
3x Korean survival of the fittest $120
3x japanese foil engineered explosives $600
4x japanese foil mox opal $400
100 assorted Miscut basics revised $8,000 at least
While those items are rare, none are that particularly rare.
How miscut are those revised basic lands that you value them at $80 a piece?
Theres a good chance this stuff will hit the market once again, thats a plus.
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This has to be one of the most, if not the most, expensive MTG heists.
Also, if I had that much in Magic cards, I'd probably keep it in a fire proof safe at home that takes my fingerprint to open it.
I really hope these thieves are caught, but I don't feel very optimistic.
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Norin the Wary, Grimgrin, Adun Oakenshield (taking forever to build)(dead format for me)Logically, if you're going to bring that much worth of cards to an event, DON'T LET IT SIT IN YOUR CAR.
There's no way the thief didn't know what he was doing; with a list that big s/he HAD to have known what was in there.
I feel bad, but you have to admit... he dun goofed.
If they're showing two cards or something ridiculous you'd be surprised what miscut basics go for. The thing about miscut basic lands is that basic lands are mainstays in every single format/the demand for them is always there.
I hope this thief gets found and prosecuted. I'm not sure how much time the thief could do in prison, but I hope it's a long time. Stealing over 50 grand worth of cards is ridiculous.
As for these items not being particularly rare, are you joking? The value of all the cards stolen is more than what the average american makes in a year of work. Tracking down every single item on that list would take someone quite a bit of work and time. Good luck finding japanese foil pattern of rebirth or miscut revised basics honestly. Sure these cards aren't test prints or summer cards, but they are still quite hard to find.
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He probably showed off a small (but expensive) part of the collection yesterday and was tracked to the car. The thief or thieves then waited until today's portion of the event and went in for the robbery hoping the cards were there. I bet whoever did it wanted to steal what they saw earlier but ended up with an unexpectedly larger purse. If caught, the person(s) responsible are looking at some serious jail time.
This is the stupidest comparison iv'e ever read.
But i gotta work with whats given.
Building on your premise, if the girl was flaunting her chest near a bad area of town. Yes, she should deserve it?
The guy had THOUSANDS of dollars, in his car, unprotected, in a scg event, where other people share the same intrest.
Big thanks to Rivenor for the sig!!
However, I hope the thief reads this, and realizes a lot of those cards would be somewhat hard to move, and turns in the lot for a reward. I think right now the owner wouldn't be looking to closely at anyone who found the cards "in a dumpster" if they got them all.
Don't understand card theft at all. If you need money, and are willing to break the law, there are easier ways. If you want the cards, wouldn't you feel guilt every time you went through "your" binder? I still feel bad every time I look at a spindown die of someones I walked off with during INN block, and that was an accident.
(Also, if this the Eli that is some kind of therapist? I think I met him once)
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I think both situations depend on the circumstances. This happened at a tournament, not outside a gas station. Having so many assets on hand means other people knew he had them, or there'd be no reason to haul it all. The wrong person found out and while that does suck, my sympathy doesn't mitigate the fact that if you can't keep an eye on all your stuff, you have too much.
That said, comparing rape to any amount of money lost on collectible cards is dirty pool, sir.
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No. Nobody deserves rape.
And maybe I'm paranoid, but I wouldn't take that kind of collection out of my house even if somebody put a gun to my head. They would have to shoot me because that's the only way those cards leave my home.
So I really have to ask. What in God's name was he thinking? I mean we're not talking about taking a couple of decks to play at an event or even bringing some cards to sell. And if he did bring them to sell, why were they in the car and not with him?
What I am really curious to ask is why this person felt the need to bring all those cards with him? Was he just bringing them to show a friend?
I simply can't wrap my head around bringing 10s of thousands of dollars of cards with you unless you were planning on unloading them or getting them appraised or something.
So to the OP, do you know WHY he brought the cards with him? I'm really curious. Because you'd have to shoot me to get all that stuff out of my site for one second.
Any additional info you can give us on why the cards were taken out of the vault would be greatly appreciated.
Saying this is bad, and you should feel bad.
No one deserves rape.
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It doesn't matter what she does or doesn't do, she doesn't deserve to be raped, no matter what.
I don't think anyone flaunts their collection, for all we know the victim could have had some expensive cards in his binder, and the thieves got lucky when they broke into their car. Some people just break into cars and take whatever they can find. My deck got stolen along with my friends' other cards while they were at a bar, and the thieves even took my friend's insulin and blood glucose meter. I don't think they even knew there were Magic cards in those bags, and they just took all of the backpacks.
While rape is more serious, it's the same principle.
Are you ****ing stupid? NO ONE DESERVES TO BE RAPED. No one deserves to be robbed of over 50 grand either, and that's what happened here. Blaming the victim is bull****, as they literally did nothing wrong. It was the actions of a person or group of people that caused this grand theft of over 50 grand in magic cards/the victim had nothing to do with it or control over it. If they checked out of their hotel room this morning, which I suspect Eli did, where else would they put the collection besides the car? Carry it on them? That sounds a tad hard considering how many cards were stolen and then you could be a victim of assault as well or just swiped off your person in the event hall. I hope Eli gets his cards back very much because he's a very good man from what I hear of him and like I said earlier, no one deserves to have more than 50 grand worth of cards stolen from them.
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I don't flaunt my collection either, despite it being worth several thousand dollars quite easily.
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IT WAS MEANT TO BE COMPARED WITH THE ORIGINAL POST.
in a sense SHOWING how dumb it was to compare them in the first place.
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and i don't feel bad, people took it out of context, or i guess i missphrased it wrong, since its ALWAYS someone elses fault.
Just gonna say... hmmm 2 more pages until lock.
Big thanks to Rivenor for the sig!!