Well I think one of the things about magic that will always keep it alive is the aspect that there's always a godly thing you can do and there's always an answer to it. I mean what other game has a card that says "You can't lose and your opponents can't win" and there's hundreds of answers for it. I mean you can have a turn 1 win hand and someone can FoW, you can have an indesctructible untargetable super 20/20 creature with all of akroma's abilities, and there are cards that can get around it. I think that's one OF MANY good reasons magic is going to be around for a long long time (Hopefully atleast untill after I die.... hopefully lol :P)
I have been collecting/playing since 1994. In that span, I don't think I have ever gone a full year without meeting someone who preached that the game was dying for one reason or another. And let me tell you straight up. When Homelands came out, it was so bad (after three bad sets in a row - eh Ice Age wasn't all bad I suppose) that the game truly could have packed it in right there. When Mirage came out we were all rewarded with far more interesting cards to mess with. That was 1995-96, and it has never come close to that point since. Kamigawa, Prophecy, etc. It's all good.
Magic died long ago. The game you think you are playing and experiencing is all in your mind. It is a false reality created by the machines. Take the blue pill and I can show you the "truth".
Seriously though, Magic should survive for a long time.
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Magic will live on. A good thing. But the game is less played than about five years ago, at least where I come from. We used to have a shop in town where every afternoon there would be around 6-10 people playing the game. Luckily I have friends with whom I play casual, but I have to travel to other cities if I want to play a game of competitive magic.
I used to be a hater of it but eventually it won me over.
I mean where I live now there isnt really a strong magic base so its not like I can play with a lot of people.
And the FNMs are horribly metad and not really a good place to test out decks, god bless Net deckers in the casual room for this.
With MTGO I can get home from the bar drunk and play someone.
I can get up in the middle of the night and play someone, or while my gf is watching lifetime play games.
It really is the future I think.
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Hardly. 2004 the main websites were just getting set up and even established players were googling for them. By now the Google search term M:tG is solely used by people unfamiliar with the game and/or competitive play.
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Hardly. 2004 the main websites were just getting set up and even established players were googling for them. By now the Google search term M:tG is solely used by people unfamiliar with the game and/or competitive play.
Agreed and you know which sites carry the best information (Salvation, magicthegathering.com, etc) so you really don't need to google anymore. Prereleases were selling out back in Timespiral and during CHK they had so much overstock it was funny.
Cutting big tournaments is, I think, emergency surgery trying to prevent Magic from stratifying completely into warring competitive and casual spheres. I don't know yet whether it was too late. Judging by the freaks who play Magic around here, maybe it is.
If so, at least they managed to release Future Sight before the game died. It's the best set since Tempest.
My local Wal-Mart has stopped carrying non-sports collectibles entirely. Has this happened anywhere else (Northeast Florida here)?
If this is a nationwide (or worldwide) situation, it could mean a drought of new blood in the game, at the same time that Wizards is pushing for new players.
Or it could just be a screwy policy at my local store.
I really don't think that Magic: The Gathering Online will be the end of the 'real life' Magic: The Gathering. Sure, it's fun, but I prefer the real cards to the digital ones. And it's easier to make mistakes on Magic: The Gathering Online.
It varies on area to area but just because a shop closes down and/or a store stops selling magic products it doesn't mean the game is dying. I live in the seattle area and shops die all the time, shortly followed by the opening of a new one. Also many non-card game oriented stores in the area have dropped tcg games then repicked them back up over and over again. Honestly, every time I got to a competitive event or even friday night magic it seems like there are at least one if not more new people there that start to come quite frequently.
It's hard for gaming stores to survive in less populated areas or if they make some bad business choices (I.E. a store I used to frequent throwing almost all of its money into the WoW card game when it came out, and then finding out no one wanted to play it in our area.) But overall this game is addicting and unless someone has a severe life change or gets married (lol) I don't really see the game dying out.
P.s. --- MTGO and rl mtg kind of work hand in hand, it's completely feasible to do both, or for people in less populated areas to play MTGO then just purchase or trade sets in for the cards they need to compete at bigger tourneys when the seasons come around.
Oh yea, and as far as the restructuring of the tournaments go.......Good Idea. I know it's inconvenient for us this year but believe me guys a year or two from now your going to be like thank god, everything connects now from the bottom to the top level.
IMO anyone that quits over something as silly as losing a tournament or two, needs to re-evaluate the situation and really decide if they aren't just a fair weather player
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My local Wal-Mart has stopped carrying non-sports collectibles entirely. Has this happened anywhere else (Northeast Florida here)?
If this is a nationwide (or worldwide) situation, it could mean a drought of new blood in the game, at the same time that Wizards is pushing for new players.
Or it could just be a screwy policy at my local store.
My walmart carries cards, but I buy my cards from a local shop called Fantasy Factory.
My local Wal-Mart has stopped carrying non-sports collectibles entirely. Has this happened anywhere else (Northeast Florida here)?
If this is a nationwide (or worldwide) situation, it could mean a drought of new blood in the game, at the same time that Wizards is pushing for new players.
Or it could just be a screwy policy at my local store.
My local Wal-Mart also carries cards, but not as many as they used to. For a while they had stopped completely selling any trading cards, but then they moved them to a different location in the store (maybe cause it is harder to steal them from there?).
On an unrelated note, Magic is dying cause of cards like Conflux. For that mana cost you should win the game, not tutor 5 cards. It could potentially be broken in vintage if someone can make the Dream Halls deck work.
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i am long time mtg player. i play in legacy tournaments ever week. i have about 10,000 invested in mtg cards. some of my cards are 32xrevised dual lands 8xtarmogoyf 9xforce of will and many more legacy and type 2 staples. i am trying to find out when the cards will become wrothless or not worth anywhere as much as they are now. i know mtg has never been as popular as it is now. i also know that it has been going strong since 1993 but how much longer will it stay so popular with cards being so expensive i spend all my money on mtg cards and please do not get me wrong i love mtg it is my life i just want to know if anyone thinks the game will ever die out hopefully not. anyone's opinion would be highly appreciated thanks
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I'd say the game easily has another decade of popularity ahead of it. WOTC does an excellent job in constantly examining player expectations and attitudes and innovating with the way they do things. They have proven they can continually churn out interesting new content in a systematic way 4 times a year, and I see no reason that will stop in the near future.
Plus, the community of players, collectors, writers, and professionals is very strong and WOTC has the good sense to listen to the community without bending to every current that ripples through it.
I cannot see Magic dying out any time soon. I have retired from the game myself for a period of time, only to come back. I kept my cards thinking that I will play again and I'm glad I did. Even if I leave the game with no intention of coming back, I would not sell my cards. It's been a significant part of my life and I would keep them as a momento. Also, I never know if I may start it up again in the future.
I've been playing Magic on and off since 1994. According to Wizards, more people are playing Magic than ever before. Tournament numbers are through the roof. The last few sets have been extremely popular, if I remember correctly Zendikar sold more boxes than any other set has before. All the shortages from M10, Zendikar, Worldwake, etc. have not been from some enormous conspiracy (as some would have you believe), it is because those sets exceeded the expectations everybody in the buisness, from your local store to Wizards. Legacy prices are getting INSANE. Have you seen Force of Wills? They're no less than $50 nowadays! Ever since I started playing competitive Magic, Force of Will was 20-25.
From every vantage point, Magic is getting more popular. There are many of us who quit playing for a year, two years, ten years, and still come back when we find a new group or a new place in our lives.
I'd say Magic is doing very well. Wizards actively cares about the game, and it shines through in (most) of their writer's articles.
All of these reasons lead me to believe that Magic has at least another decade to go. It's the original trading card game, and still the best.
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Back in my day, Wrath of God didn't kill Black Knight and that's the way we liked it. We also had to pay mana for our 1/1s. Kids and your Memnites. Get off my lawn!
Even if wizards stopped printing new cards and sets there would still be someone playing magic in some part of the world not saying this will happen but the game will last for a very very long time. And R&D isn't stupid enough to print a bunch of ridiculously underpowered or overpowered sets in a row to kill the game and they haven't made any stupid mistakes lately printing ridiculously overpowered cards. The last one was tarmogoyf. Before that, it was skullclamp. Before skullclamp there was the urza sets waaaaaaaaaay back in the day. Before that there was the P9. They probably aren't going to make some terribly broken card now in 2010 or 2011.
Dream halls + conflux is a deck in legacy, but not in vintage. In vintage, you would rather spend 5 mana setting up key/vault in the form of tezzeret, the seeker being cast then searching out time vault with his -X ability and next turn, proceed to take infinite turns and win with artifact creature beatdown.
On the economy tanking so bad people can't afford magic: I doubt that will happen, and if it does, oh well. After the "big tankage" ends, hasbro would start printing magic cards again afterwards or they would have enough money to survive the next great recession.
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Seriously though, Magic should survive for a long time.
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To MTGO.
I used to be a hater of it but eventually it won me over.
I mean where I live now there isnt really a strong magic base so its not like I can play with a lot of people.
And the FNMs are horribly metad and not really a good place to test out decks, god bless Net deckers in the casual room for this.
With MTGO I can get home from the bar drunk and play someone.
I can get up in the middle of the night and play someone, or while my gf is watching lifetime play games.
It really is the future I think.
Yikes.
Hardly. 2004 the main websites were just getting set up and even established players were googling for them. By now the Google search term M:tG is solely used by people unfamiliar with the game and/or competitive play.
Agreed and you know which sites carry the best information (Salvation, magicthegathering.com, etc) so you really don't need to google anymore. Prereleases were selling out back in Timespiral and during CHK they had so much overstock it was funny.
If so, at least they managed to release Future Sight before the game died. It's the best set since Tempest.
If this is a nationwide (or worldwide) situation, it could mean a drought of new blood in the game, at the same time that Wizards is pushing for new players.
Or it could just be a screwy policy at my local store.
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"Seriously, $80 cards? There's no conceivable way. If even one mythic card hit that price point, everyone and their mother would start buying boxes of Alara to "flip" him." -Charlequin
Being listened to would've beat saying I TOLD YOU SO 3 years later.
It's hard for gaming stores to survive in less populated areas or if they make some bad business choices (I.E. a store I used to frequent throwing almost all of its money into the WoW card game when it came out, and then finding out no one wanted to play it in our area.) But overall this game is addicting and unless someone has a severe life change or gets married (lol) I don't really see the game dying out.
P.s. --- MTGO and rl mtg kind of work hand in hand, it's completely feasible to do both, or for people in less populated areas to play MTGO then just purchase or trade sets in for the cards they need to compete at bigger tourneys when the seasons come around.
Oh yea, and as far as the restructuring of the tournaments go.......Good Idea. I know it's inconvenient for us this year but believe me guys a year or two from now your going to be like thank god, everything connects now from the bottom to the top level.
IMO anyone that quits over something as silly as losing a tournament or two, needs to re-evaluate the situation and really decide if they aren't just a fair weather player
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My walmart carries cards, but I buy my cards from a local shop called Fantasy Factory.
My local Wal-Mart also carries cards, but not as many as they used to. For a while they had stopped completely selling any trading cards, but then they moved them to a different location in the store (maybe cause it is harder to steal them from there?).
On an unrelated note, Magic is dying cause of cards like Conflux. For that mana cost you should win the game, not tutor 5 cards. It could potentially be broken in vintage if someone can make the Dream Halls deck work.
Currently offering 2 non-foil Kolighan's Command for a Date Stamped foil!
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Not if you die before you can cast any of them >_>
Anyway, I don't see how supporting variant formats is a death-knell (since Conflux seems like a shoe in for Prismatic/EDH/kitchen tablery)
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From every vantage point, Magic is getting more popular. There are many of us who quit playing for a year, two years, ten years, and still come back when we find a new group or a new place in our lives.
I'd say Magic is doing very well. Wizards actively cares about the game, and it shines through in (most) of their writer's articles.
All of these reasons lead me to believe that Magic has at least another decade to go. It's the original trading card game, and still the best.
Dream halls + conflux is a deck in legacy, but not in vintage. In vintage, you would rather spend 5 mana setting up key/vault in the form of tezzeret, the seeker being cast then searching out time vault with his -X ability and next turn, proceed to take infinite turns and win with artifact creature beatdown.
On the economy tanking so bad people can't afford magic: I doubt that will happen, and if it does, oh well. After the "big tankage" ends, hasbro would start printing magic cards again afterwards or they would have enough money to survive the next great recession.
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