Not sure if you are trolling or what but I think you are looking at this question from the wrong angle.
Things to consider are how much will you get to play ether format.
What type of decks you want to play? Control agro or combo?
How you feel about the play style of the format? Because they are very different.
I understand everyone has there likes and dislikes if i could i would only play with black boarded cards. But seeing the cost of black bordered duel lands that is not an option for me at this point.
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Not sure if you are trolling or what but I think you are looking at this question from the wrong angle.
Things to consider are how much will you get to play ether format.
What type of decks you want to play? Control agro or combo?
How you feel about the play style of the format? Because they are very different.
I understand everyone has there likes and dislikes if i could i would only play with black boarded cards. But seeing the cost of black bordered duel lands that is not an option for me at this point.
Well I am into control and combo more then anything else. Midrange comes second on my list
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first look around what format is popular in your neighborhood.
If I would choose and like to play Control or Combo, I take Legacy any day.
just my 5 cents.
Downside with the meta at my LGS is it's nothing but standard format, which is my least favourite format. Yet I play mostly legacy casual with a few mates in between classes at uni. My decks are all modern at the moment so it's usually modern vs legacy free-for-all lol.
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Look, you've answered your own question. If you hate the old bordered cards that much then play Modern. You can't build a competitive Legacy deck with just modern bordered cards.
Look, you've answered your own question. If you hate the old bordered cards that much then play Modern. You can't build a competitive Legacy deck with just modern bordered cards.
End of discussion.
Burn is semi competitive and can be played with all modern borders now that vortex got a reprint
Downside with the meta at my LGS is it's nothing but standard format, which is my least favourite format. Yet I play mostly legacy casual with a few mates in between classes at uni. My decks are all modern at the moment so it's usually modern vs legacy free-for-all lol.
The Legacy. There's no reason to play Modern if no one else is playing it.
In other news, crazy nitwits playing dress-up have also convicted the Hamburglar, the Cookie Crisp Crook, and the Frito Bandito of sundry snack-related thefts.
Seriously, what about this strikes you as remotely worthy of discussion?
Mmmm. Legacy. Where the top deck archetypes never change, every other match is FoW vs FoW, and everyone is trying to kill you in a few turns with Show and Tell in a broken deck vs broken deck manor. Be ready to shell out at least a grand too, your land base alone is gonna be $500 to $700.
For me the most ridiculous thing about this thread is that someone prefers the new border...?
This is what you have to understand, and I get it. It's what you're used to and what you grew up with. If you started playing after M10 then (1) white bordered core set cards look odd and (2) expansion sets prior to 8th look odd.
It's like this with anything else. I grew up in the 60s so 50s music sucks to me. 50s comic book styles are stupid to me. If you grew up in the 50s, everything after that isn't "as good" as the stuff you grew up with.
This is common in everything so why should it be any different in Magic? The guy never saw an old bordered card for who knows how long. When he did, he said "Ew." How hard is that to understand? It's not what he's used to.
Took me a very long time to accept the new look as I played back in the stone ages. The only thing I am glad they got rid of is the white borders of the core sets. I always hated them because they weren't like alpha, beta and early expansions. I don't even know why they ever made white bordered cards, but whatever.
Mmmm. Legacy. Where the top deck archetypes never change, every other match is FoW vs FoW, and everyone is trying to kill you in a few turns with Show and Tell in a broken deck vs broken deck manor. Be ready to shell out at least a grand too, your land base alone is gonna be $500 to $700.
Wait, I mean
Darn those legacy borders!! Go modern!
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That's such a load of crap. Yes Legacy is generally more expensive per deck, but they also don't rotate. Not every match is FoW vs Fow. Look at Jund for example. There are other ways to combat combo. And the meta rotates all the time, like a true healthy format should. Combo dominates one week, control comes in the next in response, and then stuff like Jund in response, and then combo. Sure the top decks are relatively the same, but Jund came out of nowhere, shardless agent did too. There's room for innovation. It's a much healthier format than Modern, and it's much more interesting than Modern or Standard.
Just because you can't afford the format doesn't give you the right to be ignorant about it.
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This is what you have to understand, and I get it. It's what you're used to and what you grew up with. If you started playing after M10 then (1) white bordered core set cards look odd and (2) expansion sets prior to 8th look odd.
It's like this with anything else. I grew up in the 60s so 50s music sucks to me. 50s comic book styles are stupid to me. If you grew up in the 50s, everything after that isn't "as good" as the stuff you grew up with.
This is common in everything so why should it be any different in Magic? The guy never saw an old bordered card for who knows how long. When he did, he said "Ew." How has is that to understand? It's not what he's used to.
Took me a very long time to accept the new look as I played back in the stone ages. The only thing I am glad they got rid of is the white borders of the core sets. I always hated them because they weren't like alpha, beta and early expansions. I don't even know why they ever made white bordered cards, but whatever.
We all have our biases. This is his.
I am one of those who played the game early and thought to myself, when are they going to fix these ugly cards, the game is cool, but it hurts to look at the cards. My favorite borders are those of future sight, ala Goyf border. But if I cant have those, I want what we have now. As they are now, its just easier to read and they look cleaner. More ..modern..;)
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That's such a load of crap. Yes Legacy is generally more expensive per deck, but they also don't rotate. Not every match is FoW vs Fow. Look at Jund for example. There are other ways to combat combo. And the meta rotates all the time, like a true healthy format should. Combo dominates one week, control comes in the next in response, and then stuff like Jund in response, and then combo. Sure the top decks are relatively the same, but Jund came out of nowhere, shardless agent did too. There's room for innovation. It's a much healthier format than Modern, and it's much more interesting than Modern or Standard.
Just because you can't afford the format doesn't give you the right to be ignorant about it.
and what would you tell the player that has the cards, has played the format, and feels the same as YamahaR1? For every player that feels Legacy is the greatest format ever, I can show you people who can not stand the format. Its about personal preference, not ignorance. Just because you like something and are passionate about it, doesnt make it that way for everyone.
That's such a load of crap. Yes Legacy is generally more expensive per deck, but they also don't rotate. Not every match is FoW vs Fow. Look at Jund for example. There are other ways to combat combo. And the meta rotates all the time, like a true healthy format should. Combo dominates one week, control comes in the next in response, and then stuff like Jund in response, and then combo. Sure the top decks are relatively the same, but Jund came out of nowhere, shardless agent did too. There's room for innovation. It's a much healthier format than Modern, and it's much more interesting than Modern or Standard.
Just because you can't afford the format doesn't give you the right to be ignorant about it.
Don't attack me personally for a general opinion please. You don't know anything about my finances. Thankee
Legacy is a richer, more diverse, and more fun format to play. But Modern is cheaper to get into because it doesn't require any of the really expensive older cards like the Dual lands, Force of Will, or even newer more expensive stuff like Jace. So if you don't want to spend a lot of money, get into Modern. If money is not a problem and you just want the better format, get into Legacy.
Legacy is dying, Modern is growing. The choice should be obvious. Stronger online following, and a growing paper one. Legacy has become an old boy's club much like Vintage now. Even the hottest spots for Legacy in the USA and Europe are shrinking.
Depending on your deck, there are relatively few cards that you will need to use with the old frames. Let's look at a couple of top decks:
RUG Delver: Assuming you pick up Judge Wastelands, Commander Brainstorms, you run just the Zendikar fetches (no big deal), and depending on your flex slots (i.e. no Stifle) your only old-border cards will be 3 Volcanic, 3 Tropical, and 4 Force of Will
Esper Stoneblade: Karakas can be judge, leaving your old-border cards as a handful of Duals and Force of Will
So if you're okay with ~10 of your cards being old-frame, Legacy is definitely the way to go.
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Legacy is dying, Modern is growing. The choice should be obvious. Stronger online following, and a growing paper one. Legacy has become an old boy's club much like Vintage now. Even the hottest spots for Legacy in the USA and Europe are shrinking.
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Uh no, not again.... should I be any less surprised that a discussion on border preferences turns into another "legacy is dying, modern is here fore EVER!!!"
Sorry to break it to you bud, but in a lot of places Modern is inactive because its not modern GP season. My store modern is not played, as well as the OPs. See modern cards lately? Noticed an increase in the market since the last modern season went down? Notice how modern card prices are declining since its the modern off season?
As to the OP, just stick with whatever it is you're doing now. It pretty much sounds like non-singleton EDH to me anyways.
Obviously, what is being played where you are is most important. You won't have any fun if you can't play. All formats can be great fun if you have the people to support it.
Legacy is absolutely taking off in Brisbane right now. The modern scene is comparatively weak. Good Games (in Spring Hill) does Tuesday nights legacy where we get around 30 regulars (up from like 10 this time last year), you should come and join the fun.
Edit: as for the modern from vs old frame - you'd be surprised how many legacy decks can manage to run only about 8 or so cards that are only available in the old frame and usually these are the dual lands which make them easier to search for off a fetch land anyway. Besides if you ask me a card is still going to do the same thing whether its black border, white border, old frame, new frame, foil or altered so it shouldn't really matter. At any rate- you can't control what cards your opponent uses and I suspect that even some cards in standard (and definitely modern) have old border printings so you will always run into games where you have to play with (or rather, against) the old bordered cards.
If I go to legacy, I'm mostly looking at old boarders which really bore me and I would only use the modern boarded re-prints.
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EDH:
G Ezuri, Renegade Leader, Fighting for Rivendell
WU Brago, King Eternal, Long Live the King
WUBRG Scion of the Ur-Dragon, Worship the Dragon
Just play whatever format you enjoy the most.
Live in Northern AZ? Lets play some Legacy! Catch me on MODO!
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EDH:
G Ezuri, Renegade Leader, Fighting for Rivendell
WU Brago, King Eternal, Long Live the King
WUBRG Scion of the Ur-Dragon, Worship the Dragon
Things to consider are how much will you get to play ether format.
What type of decks you want to play? Control agro or combo?
How you feel about the play style of the format? Because they are very different.
I understand everyone has there likes and dislikes if i could i would only play with black boarded cards. But seeing the cost of black bordered duel lands that is not an option for me at this point.
GBR Jund
GBW Junk
GBW Melira Pod
GB Rock
GR Tron
UR Storm
UR Delver
UR Twin
RUG Twin
UWR Twin
UWR Kiki Control
UWR Control
UWR Midrange
URWB Affinity
GRW Zoo
R Burn
Legacy:
combo elves
Modern:
White Rock (41-24-4 in matches. Beginning 10/14/14. Last updated 1/2/15)
List:
4 Dark Confidant
3 Siege Rhino
1 Thrun, The Last Troll
Spells - 20
4 Inquisition of Kozilek
3 Thoughtseize
4 abrupt decay
2 maelstrom pulse
1 slaughter pact
1 path to exile
1 Disfigure
1 damnation
3 lingering souls
NCP - 4
3 Liliana of the Veil
1 Bow of Nylea
4 verdant Catacombs
2 marsh flats
2 windswept heath
2 Swamp
1 Forest
1 Plains
2 Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
3 overgrown tomb
1 godless shrine
1 temple garden
1 Treetop Village
2 stirring wildwood
2 Tectonic Edge
4 Leyline of Sanctity
1 Thrun, the last troll
2 Duress
1 Creeping Corrosion
2 Stony Silence
2 Nihil Spellbomb
1 Back to nature
1 Utter End
1 Golgari Charm
Well I am into control and combo more then anything else. Midrange comes second on my list
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EDH:
G Ezuri, Renegade Leader, Fighting for Rivendell
WU Brago, King Eternal, Long Live the King
WUBRG Scion of the Ur-Dragon, Worship the Dragon
Downside with the meta at my LGS is it's nothing but standard format, which is my least favourite format. Yet I play mostly legacy casual with a few mates in between classes at uni. My decks are all modern at the moment so it's usually modern vs legacy free-for-all lol.
U Merfolk | GR Tron | WUR Jeskai Control | WBG Abzan Company
EDH:
G Ezuri, Renegade Leader, Fighting for Rivendell
WU Brago, King Eternal, Long Live the King
WUBRG Scion of the Ur-Dragon, Worship the Dragon
End of discussion.
Burn is semi competitive and can be played with all modern borders now that vortex got a reprint
The Legacy. There's no reason to play Modern if no one else is playing it.
Legacy. The better format is legacy.
BW(G) Junkblade - Legacy
BW Vial Deadguy - Legacy
UWR Geist - Modern
UR(B) Delver - Modern
W(G) Death & Taxes - Modern
Oona, Queen of the Fae - EDH
Mmmm. Legacy. Where the top deck archetypes never change, every other match is FoW vs FoW, and everyone is trying to kill you in a few turns with Show and Tell in a broken deck vs broken deck manor. Be ready to shell out at least a grand too, your land base alone is gonna be $500 to $700.Wait, I mean
Darn those legacy borders!! Go modern!
=)
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This is what you have to understand, and I get it. It's what you're used to and what you grew up with. If you started playing after M10 then (1) white bordered core set cards look odd and (2) expansion sets prior to 8th look odd.
It's like this with anything else. I grew up in the 60s so 50s music sucks to me. 50s comic book styles are stupid to me. If you grew up in the 50s, everything after that isn't "as good" as the stuff you grew up with.
This is common in everything so why should it be any different in Magic? The guy never saw an old bordered card for who knows how long. When he did, he said "Ew." How hard is that to understand? It's not what he's used to.
Took me a very long time to accept the new look as I played back in the stone ages. The only thing I am glad they got rid of is the white borders of the core sets. I always hated them because they weren't like alpha, beta and early expansions. I don't even know why they ever made white bordered cards, but whatever.
We all have our biases. This is his.
That's such a load of crap. Yes Legacy is generally more expensive per deck, but they also don't rotate. Not every match is FoW vs Fow. Look at Jund for example. There are other ways to combat combo. And the meta rotates all the time, like a true healthy format should. Combo dominates one week, control comes in the next in response, and then stuff like Jund in response, and then combo. Sure the top decks are relatively the same, but Jund came out of nowhere, shardless agent did too. There's room for innovation. It's a much healthier format than Modern, and it's much more interesting than Modern or Standard.
Just because you can't afford the format doesn't give you the right to be ignorant about it.
I am one of those who played the game early and thought to myself, when are they going to fix these ugly cards, the game is cool, but it hurts to look at the cards. My favorite borders are those of future sight, ala Goyf border. But if I cant have those, I want what we have now. As they are now, its just easier to read and they look cleaner. More ..modern..;)
and what would you tell the player that has the cards, has played the format, and feels the same as YamahaR1? For every player that feels Legacy is the greatest format ever, I can show you people who can not stand the format. Its about personal preference, not ignorance. Just because you like something and are passionate about it, doesnt make it that way for everyone.
Don't attack me personally for a general opinion please. You don't know anything about my finances. Thankee
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RUG Delver: Assuming you pick up Judge Wastelands, Commander Brainstorms, you run just the Zendikar fetches (no big deal), and depending on your flex slots (i.e. no Stifle) your only old-border cards will be 3 Volcanic, 3 Tropical, and 4 Force of Will
Esper Stoneblade: Karakas can be judge, leaving your old-border cards as a handful of Duals and Force of Will
So if you're okay with ~10 of your cards being old-frame, Legacy is definitely the way to go.
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EDH Cube
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Uh no, not again.... should I be any less surprised that a discussion on border preferences turns into another "legacy is dying, modern is here fore EVER!!!"
Sorry to break it to you bud, but in a lot of places Modern is inactive because its not modern GP season. My store modern is not played, as well as the OPs. See modern cards lately? Noticed an increase in the market since the last modern season went down? Notice how modern card prices are declining since its the modern off season?
As to the OP, just stick with whatever it is you're doing now. It pretty much sounds like non-singleton EDH to me anyways.
Legacy is absolutely taking off in Brisbane right now. The modern scene is comparatively weak. Good Games (in Spring Hill) does Tuesday nights legacy where we get around 30 regulars (up from like 10 this time last year), you should come and join the fun.
Edit: as for the modern from vs old frame - you'd be surprised how many legacy decks can manage to run only about 8 or so cards that are only available in the old frame and usually these are the dual lands which make them easier to search for off a fetch land anyway. Besides if you ask me a card is still going to do the same thing whether its black border, white border, old frame, new frame, foil or altered so it shouldn't really matter. At any rate- you can't control what cards your opponent uses and I suspect that even some cards in standard (and definitely modern) have old border printings so you will always run into games where you have to play with (or rather, against) the old bordered cards.
UGX Turbo Eldrazi
BUG Team America
W Death and Taxes
RX Godo Mud