I find it odd that ultimate price is a mono-colored card, since it specifically targets mono-colored creatures. Would it not make more sense if it were a multicolored card, given its effect? Since it is associated with the Orzhov guild, I believe that it could easily cost either WB or :symbw::symbw: and still have exactly the same effect. What does everyone else have to say on this subject? Why is ultimate price a mono-colored card?
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It is the latest in a line of Terrors that are black, cost two, and read "destroy target creature not from this block." Last block it was Victim of Night, and it was Go For The Throat in Mirrodin. Before it was block themed iit was called Doom Blade, and before that Terror.
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What's the big deal? You could have played multiple Righteous Avengers for years now.
White shouldn't have straight up creature removal at a low cost. When White removes a creature, it either exiles it (which can then be brought back, a la Oring) or it destroys an attacking or blocking creature.
White shouldn't have straight up creature removal at a low cost. When White removes a creature, it either exiles it (which can then be brought back, a la Oring) or it destroys an attacking or blocking creature.
Multicolor cards traditionally have effects that only one of the the colors has, but not the other.
Also, white does have another exile spell than the one you mentioned as "mistakes". Unmake
I understand that conditional creature removal is a major aspect of the color black, but I simply find it to be odd, and even hypocritical, that a spell that specifically destroys mono-colored creatures is itself mono-colored (of course, if any color in this game were to be hypocritical, it would definitely be black, so perhaps the card makes more sense from both a mechanical and flavor perspective with that thought in mind).
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“Patriotism means to stand by one's country; it does not mean to stand by one's president.”-Theodore Roosevelt
I understand that conditional creature removal is a major aspect of the color black, but I simply find it to be odd, and even hypocritical, that a spell that specifically destroys mono-colored creatures is itself mono-colored (of course, if any color in this game were to be hypocritical, it would definitely be black, so perhaps the card makes more sense from both a mechanical and flavor perspective with that thought in mind).
Think of it this way:
The flavor i see is a black aligned creature/person is preying on an unguilded, since they don't have a guild to rely on they are easy pickings. That's where the "target monocolored creature" comes from
Also, not all cards associated with a guild have to be multicolored, it's just easier to tell when they are multicolored.
Thirdly, Ultimate price isn't even an Orzhov card; It just has Orzhov flavor text.
Orzhov wasn't in RTR
Also, when you add another color, you reduce access. If it were B/W, Golgari, Dimir, or Rakdos wouldn't have access to it. That's likely not better for deck-building, which could lead to less enjoyable metas. I'm willing to sacrifice a bit of flavor for deck-building options, and I say allowing any number of B/X decks access to the spell is better overall flavor anyway: The gateless are fighting the guilded, and the black guilds are willing to retaliate in the more "extreme".
The real reason is probably that Ultimate Price is a bottom-up design, that this is a card they wanted in standard, so they put it on the card and you can figure out why it does what it does for yourself.
Sadly not all cards can be 100% flavorful. However this can be a good thing as making it hard-multi-colored would limit it's usability and making it playable in either black or white would be too powerful.
Actually, the greater question concerning flavor would be why the hell does black, a color that doesn't shy away from anything horrid and reveals in doing what it takes to win at all costs, uses removal spells that come with restrictions.
Think of it this way:
The flavor i see is a black aligned creature/person is preying on an unguilded, since they don't have a guild to rely on they are easy pickings. That's where the "target monocolored creature" comes from
Also, not all cards associated with a guild have to be multicolored, it's just easier to tell when they are multicolored.
Thirdly, Ultimate price isn't even an Orzhov card; It just has Orzhov flavor text.
Orzhov wasn't in RTR
Also, when you add another color, you reduce access. If it were B/W, Golgari, Dimir, or Rakdos wouldn't have access to it. That's likely not better for deck-building, which could lead to less enjoyable metas. I'm willing to sacrifice a bit of flavor for deck-building options, and I say allowing any number of B/X decks access to the spell is better overall flavor anyway: The gateless are fighting the guilded, and the black guilds are willing to retaliate in the more "extreme".
Sadly not all cards can be 100% flavorful. However this can be a good thing as making it hard-multi-colored would limit it's usability and making it playable in either black or white would be too powerful.
Yes, all of those explanations do make sense, to me; thank you very much.
Actually, the greater question concerning flavor would be why the hell does black, a color that doesn't shy away from anything horrid and reveals in doing what it takes to win at all costs, uses removal spells that come with restrictions.
Yes, I also have wondered about that, myself; perhaps WotC imposes restrictions upon creature destruction spells to maintain mechanical balance? However, murder and terminate do not have any restrictions, so perhaps there are no strict rules that determines whether or not creature removal spells have restrictions?
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“When the people fear the government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.”-Thomas Jefferson
“A vote is like a rifle; its usefulness depends upon the character of its user.”-Theodore Roosevelt
“Patriotism means to stand by one's country; it does not mean to stand by one's president.”-Theodore Roosevelt
Also, Path to Exile and Swords to Plowshares are off-color mistakes, so no one bring those up, please.
They aren't off colour, they are just too efficient.
Multicolor cards traditionally have effects that only one of the the colors has, but not the other.
Also, white does have another exile spell than the one you mentioned as "mistakes". Unmake
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“When the people fear the government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.”-Thomas Jefferson
“A vote is like a rifle; its usefulness depends upon the character of its user.”-Theodore Roosevelt
“Patriotism means to stand by one's country; it does not mean to stand by one's president.”-Theodore Roosevelt
Think of it this way:
The flavor i see is a black aligned creature/person is preying on an unguilded, since they don't have a guild to rely on they are easy pickings. That's where the "target monocolored creature" comes from
Also, not all cards associated with a guild have to be multicolored, it's just easier to tell when they are multicolored.
Thirdly, Ultimate price isn't even an Orzhov card; It just has Orzhov flavor text.
Orzhov wasn't in RTR
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Actually, the greater question concerning flavor would be why the hell does black, a color that doesn't shy away from anything horrid and reveals in doing what it takes to win at all costs, uses removal spells that come with restrictions.
Yes, all of those explanations do make sense, to me; thank you very much.
Yes, I also have wondered about that, myself; perhaps WotC imposes restrictions upon creature destruction spells to maintain mechanical balance? However, murder and terminate do not have any restrictions, so perhaps there are no strict rules that determines whether or not creature removal spells have restrictions?
“When the people fear the government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.”-Thomas Jefferson
“A vote is like a rifle; its usefulness depends upon the character of its user.”-Theodore Roosevelt
“Patriotism means to stand by one's country; it does not mean to stand by one's president.”-Theodore Roosevelt