Best Combo Deck!

  • #1
    Looking to build a deck that will be able to hit my target player pretty quick and hard i know i know thats what she said blah blah blah haha!!

    Im really like the blue/black mill deck,but im thinking about a big green creature deck and red..what you think?

    I have yet to really touch a white deck what is another good color/strategy to go with white?
  • #2
    Are you looking for a combo deck, creature deck or mill deck? What format?
  • #3
    Red and green with a big green creature....sounds like you want a legacy sneak and show deck. You run sneak attack and show and tell to cheat big game
    Ending creatures like progenitus, blightsteel colossus, or emrakul, aeons torn it's not cheap though
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  • #4
    I would like a little mill put into the deck but mainly creature deck ...I like to always have a little mill in the deck...get lucky and make the player discard a good card haha
  • #5
    I am currently in the middle of a project to put together the original Academy deck. I am missing a few Intuition and maybe a Meditate. It seems really fun because it brings back a bunch of good memories, including winning a bunch. :D:D
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  • #6
    Quote from MTGNooB52
    I like to always have a little mill in the deck...get lucky and make the player discard a good card haha
    I'll be blunt - you should try to avoid this mentality. Not all decks have specific cards that they really need to draw (it makes little difference to a fast aggro deck with a low mana curve, for example) and for the decks that do have a few specific bombs, you're as likely to mill cards your opponent wouldn't have wanted to draw and get them closer to drawing the bomb card as to actually mill the bomb card.

    Unless milling your opponent serves a particular purpose, you're diluting the effectiveness of the rest of your deck (since milling generally has no significant effect on the game state and you're using resources to do it.) Basically you should only play mill if one of the following is true:
    - You intend to win by making your opponent run out of cards (this can be a backup win condition, but it should be realistically doable)
    - You are playing cards that care about the number of cards in your opponent's graveyard or which interact with them in some way (examples: Geth, Lord of the Vault, Wrexial, the Risen Deep)
    - Your deck includes mechanics that put cards on top of your opponent's library (Grasp of Phantoms etc) or can see the top card of your opponent's library (Lantern of Insight etc.) and you can mill cards you know your opponent would have wanted to draw.

    That being said, two of the most well-known combos for milling out your opponent's whole deck in one shot are Painter's Servant/Grindstone and Leyline of the Void/Helm of Obedience.

    Edited for a nitpick: "Discard" has a very specific meaning in Magic and putting cards from a library into a graveyard isn't discarding. There isn't an official keyword term for this action but "milling" is the generally accepted term.
    Last edited by Artscrafter: 8/1/2012 6:59:10 PM
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  • #7
    I'm confused...the title reads combo deck, but the post is asking about mill or creature-based decks.
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  • #8
    Quote from NGW
    I'm confused...the title reads combo deck, but the post is asking about mill or creature-based decks.

    True combo can be confusing for many players, especially those who began Magic in the past few years. Combo being nearly non existent in Standard has caused people to name certain decks "Combo."

    I've heard Mythic Conscription called Combo. I've heard the new GW ElfWave deck called Combo. It just really comes down to semantics.

    Although I do agree that Mill is not Combo. Here's one though - I don't think Legacy Dredge is Combo either. I think it's just Dredge; it's own category.
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  • #9
    I apologize I am new to the game when I wrote combo I meant 2 colors Im sorry....but Im looking for a nice green/red or white/blue
  • #10
    The fastest combo deck of all time was Legacy Flash/Hulk, albeit legal for a very short time. The win con happens as early as deciding who goes first and you should exploit the tendency of players to choose this when they win the coin flip. Begin the game with Gemstone Caverns in play, tap for blue on the end of their first upkeep (the first time you get priority), exile an Elvish Spirit Guide, and use the mana to cast Flash putting Protean Hulk into play. It dies, the ability triggers and you get to go digging for a win-con. There's more efficient builds than this but I personally prefer fetching up four Disciple of the Vault, eight zero-drop creatures (search for them) and an Arcbound Ravager. 32 damage before they skip their first draw, or 24 if you drew one of the Disciples in your opening hand. Use Pact of Negation to protect Flash from countermagic or the Hulk from Stifle.

    Edit: this only works for game one since the losing player in the round will choose to draw first after this little trick; you may have to go all the way to your first main phase! Tragic.
    Son of Edit: run Summoner's Pact. It can tutor both the Hulk and the Spirit Guide.
    Last edited by HaileSelassie: 8/1/2012 11:06:28 PM
  • #11
    A combo deck is a deck that tries to get two or more cards that win the game instantly or does something else devestating. A deck with two or more colors are multicolored.
  • #12
    Reanimator is probably the most inherently powerful combo deck. It also trounces all other combo decks in the format, but it has a tendency to lose to fair decks.
  • #13
    Generally new players use White + Green. Then play lots of creatures. Green/red is similar but there is the added complication of instant speed spells from red.

    In Standard White Green Red is the second best deck atm... It involves playing creatures that have effects when they enter the battlefield and using Birthing Pod to pull out any creature then need out of their library. If you want to play a deck like that I suggest buying the "repeat performance" event deck that comes out this weekend.

    Mill is difficult because you have to mill 3 times as many cards as you need to do damage. If you are going to mill anyone it will be yourself using Splinterfright or any of the dredge cards (Golgari Grave troll).

    there is also the other event deck " sweet vengance" which is Blue Red, where you kill your opponent using a card called Burning Vengence. I think that one is a little weak but it does have elements of self mill and combo if that is what you are looking for.
    Last edited by Narvuntien: 8/2/2012 3:49:33 AM
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  • #14
    I think the Cascade Hypergenesis Deck is Red/Green/Blue. You can run it with shardless agent, violent outburst, hypergenesis, and big creatures without the FOW/MidD with kitchen table games.

    Put in quicksilver amulet over show and tell. Use scars lands over dual lands. Evolving Wilds over fetches.

    Akroma's Memorial has been seen in some of these decks and that m13 one is pretty cheap compared to the futuresight one.

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  • #15
    Quote from mxyzptlk
    The fastest combo deck of all time was Legacy Flash/Hulk, albeit legal for a very short time. The win con happens as early as deciding who goes first and you should exploit the tendency of players to choose this when they win the coin flip. Begin the game with Gemstone Caverns in play, tap for blue on the end of their first upkeep (the first time you get priority), exile an Elvish Spirit Guide, and use the mana to cast Flash putting Protean Hulk into play. It dies, the ability triggers and you get to go digging for a win-con. There's more efficient builds than this but I personally prefer fetching up four Disciple of the Vault, eight zero-drop creatures (search for them) and an Arcbound Ravager. 32 damage before they skip their first draw, or 24 if you drew one of the Disciples in your opening hand. Use Pact of Negation to protect Flash from countermagic or the Hulk from Stifle.


    This deck was never built with any degree of success. Hulk Flash decks abounded, just not this "turn 0" version. Way, way, way too many dead cards.

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  • #16
    Quote from lordofthepit23
    Reanimator is probably the most inherently powerful combo deck. It also trounces all other combo decks in the format, but it has a tendency to lose to fair decks.


    I don't know about that. Reanimator is hardly even a combo. It's good, especially with griselbrand now, but still probably not the strongest.

    The protean hulk/disciple of the vault combo was, and still is (though no longer legal), one of the fastest combo decks seeing that it could win turn 1 even before your opponent could play a land if they went first. Its not as consistent as a few other combo decks though, like a vintage storm deck
    Last edited by Mastodon: 8/2/2012 8:41:55 AM
  • #17
    Quote from mxyzptlk
    The fastest combo deck of all time was Legacy Flash/Hulk, albeit legal for a very short time. The win con happens as early as deciding who goes first and you should exploit the tendency of players to choose this when they win the coin flip. Begin the game with Gemstone Caverns in play, tap for blue on the end of their first upkeep (the first time you get priority), exile an Elvish Spirit Guide, and use the mana to cast Flash putting Protean Hulk into play. It dies, the ability triggers and you get to go digging for a win-con. There's more efficient builds than this but I personally prefer fetching up four Disciple of the Vault, eight zero-drop creatures (search for them) and an Arcbound Ravager. 32 damage before they skip their first draw, or 24 if you drew one of the Disciples in your opening hand. Use Pact of Negation to protect Flash from countermagic or the Hulk from Stifle.

    Edit: this only works for game one since the losing player in the round will choose to draw first after this little trick; you may have to go all the way to your first main phase! Tragic.
    Son of Edit: run Summoner's Pact. It can tutor both the Hulk and the Spirit Guide.

    Irrelevant much?
  • #18
    Ok well now I know...when I said combo I meant Multicolored I think im going to go with Red/Green...Green for the creatures and red for the quick burn instants/sorcerys..
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