"Did you win any money?"

  • #1
    Why is it that my family (and many friends) ask "Did you win any money?" whenever I tell them that I did well at an FNM or PTQ, etc. Is it simply because they can't stop associating "cards" with gambling?

    Is it because I once made the mistake of explaining that there are cash prizes at large events?

    Next time they go out to do something they enjoy, should I ask them, "Did you win any money?" or is that too petty?

    Is it because I failed to properly convey to them why I play Magic?

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  • #2
    my store gives out singles so i can sell them on craigslist so its kind of like winning money
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  • #3
    I'd suspect their mental process goes a little bit something like this.

    1. It's a card game
    2. There's cash prizes
    3. Poker is a card game

    Therefore, the flow of cash must be similar.
  • #4
    Because winning money is a big aspect of higher level Magic play. Are you annoyed because you would have to say no or because that is what they are putting the focus on?
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  • #5
    I won a tournament I paid money to enter.

    Almost all tournaments that you pay money to enter give money as a prize to the winner.

    Seems like a fair assumption. In fact, I often am bothered when there's no cash option for prize at large events.
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  • #6
    its because to non players of the game winning more cards hold no value, hell your backpack of cards hold no value to them. Winning 100 dollars in cards and winning a 100 in cash means no difference to you but to them the cards without knowledge of their value means zero to them.

    In the future you would probably stop being asked this question if you said you went x-y and won z amount of value in cards/packs. That way they have something to relate to what you won. You can't blame them for their ignorance of what packs are worth.

    My family never believed me when i said how much my stuff was worth untill I quit a few years ago and sold every thing for cash/check that added up to over 9k and they **** a brick.
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  • #7
    Quote from KPDaly16
    I won a tournament I paid money to enter.

    Almost all tournaments that you pay money to enter give money as a prize to the winner.

    Seems like a fair assumption. In fact, I often am bothered when there's no cash option for prize at large events.


    Like the Grand Prixs, 5k's, 10k's, SCG Invitational, Pro Tours, etc, which pay out in cash?
    Odds of pulling a JtMS from a WWK pack: 1:80
    Odds of pulling any specific rare in 5th Edition: 1:133

    So, on average, 1 JtMS every 2.222 boxes or 1 Bird of Paradise every 3.694 boxes. Yeah, I'll take my odds with Mythics, they are easier to get than old rares.

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  • #8
    Excuse me if I misunderstand, but it hardly seems like a big deal when they ask if you won money. To me it sounds more like they wanted to know if you did well. It's far easier for non-players to understand "Yes, I did very well, I won 100 bucks!" than it is to understand "Yes, I did very well, I won a foil Jace!" or something like that. I guess I just don't see what all the fuss is about, how hard is it to say "No, there was no cash prize but I won some more cards!"?
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  • #9
    Quote from Ixias
    Excuse me if I misunderstand, but it hardly seems like a big deal when they ask if you won money. To me it sounds more like they wanted to know if you did well. It's far easier for non-players to understand "Yes, I did very well, I won 100 bucks!" than it is to understand "Yes, I did very well, I won a foil Jace!" or something like that. I guess I just don't see what all the fuss is about, how hard is it to say "No, there was no cash prize but I won some more cards!"?

    I can't speak for everyone, but when someone used to ask me, it meant, "are you doing anything constructive with your time?" When I told them that I won $20 in store credit, they were not impressed for 5-6 hrs. on a Friday. However when I brought home a Box of Magic or $100-250, they were impressed. When I brought home $600 and $800 once, they were really impressed. Problem is that it is such a rare occurrence to bring home that much unless you really are near Pro Status.

    P.S. - I wish I had won the Grand Prix. $3500 tends to shut up some people (although I realize some people won't be that impressed with that too, especially for 2 days of work).

    BTW, my ex wife and her family come from a culture (I am half) where playing cards is gambling. It eventually was a big factor in why we divorced. Frown
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  • #10
    my answers is always: yes , i did

    the are happy, so am i
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  • #11
    Mine is the opposite, my folks keeps asking "did you lose a lot of money?" lol (only LGS though)

    I keep saying it's $5 dollars for entry! FFS
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  • #12
    Quote from FoodChainGoblins
    I can't speak for everyone, but when someone used to ask me, it meant, "are you doing anything constructive with your time?" When I told them that I won $20 in store credit, they were not impressed for 5-6 hrs. on a Friday. However when I brought home a Box of Magic or $100-250, they were impressed. When I brought home $600 and $800 once, they were really impressed. Problem is that it is such a rare occurrence to bring home that much unless you really are near Pro Status.

    P.S. - I wish I had won the Grand Prix. $3500 tends to shut up some people (although I realize some people won't be that impressed with that too, especially for 2 days of work).

    BTW, my ex wife and her family come from a culture (I am half) where playing cards is gambling. It eventually was a big factor in why we divorced. Frown


    I think you're missing the point. Yes, you're right in that the question can be translated to "are you doing anything constructive with your time?". But if you're translating the question in this manner then you have a very narrow definition of what it means to do something "constructive" with your time. It implies that making money is the only way to use your time constructively. I think that this is exactly the kind of mentality that the OP was calling into question.
  • #13
    Quote from lycantivis
    its because to non players of the game winning more cards hold no value, hell your backpack of cards hold no value to them. Winning 100 dollars in cards and winning a 100 in cash means no difference to you but to them the cards without knowledge of their value means zero to them.

    In the future you would probably stop being asked this question if you said you went x-y and won z amount of value in cards/packs. That way they have something to relate to what you won. You can't blame them for their ignorance of what packs are worth.

    My family never believed me when i said how much my stuff was worth untill I quit a few years ago and sold every thing for cash/check that added up to over 9k and they **** a brick.


    Haha, reminds me of dealing with the building of my collection and the small bits of buying and selling I was doing on the side. Once I started up things at the local shop (running/owning the magic singles collection), the numbers I was dealing with got a lot larger. Once I started ramping up the ebaying, and was showing how much I was getting out of the cards, my dad especially (who, ironically has collected sports cards for about the last 50 years), finally got off my case about it. A lot of people who dont know the game or the economics of what stuff is worth, simply wont understand until you show them the money you are actually getting out of it. Even then they may still not understand, but will likely stop nagging or otherwise once they see what you were saying is actually the truth.
  • #14
    Quote from Kelnon
    Like the Grand Prixs, 5k's, 10k's, SCG Invitational, Pro Tours, etc, which pay out in cash?


    Almost all of which are invitation only. I'm referring to large events players can actually play in, like PTQ's. SCG does a great job of giving cash prizes at their Opens, and I'm hoping it starts to make that a trend.

    I get a kick out of it when I go to judge a weekend event, tell people so, and when I get back my family asks me if I won.
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