Yeah, I've seen a couple people throw their own cards around (one guy I recall a while back threw his Armageddon across the room and walked out the store when I informed him that it was not actually in 10th edition like his friend had told him). I have never seen a player grab and toss their opponent's cards. I do not believe I would react calmly if that happened to me.
That's sorta my experience(s) with rude people and MTG.
I like to play casually and as such I try to come up with quirky and unusual decks. Some people don't take it too well when they lose to me even though I am just trying to have fun and they throw their cards or decks even sometimes across the room :(. I don't like to play with those kinds of people.
1 year ago I played land destruction. I beat my opponent easily by destroying all his lands knocking his life down with red x sorcerys. I played Magnivore who was currently 14/14 12 of the sorceries were mine. I attack with a clear shot because of haste. He got mad and took my Magnivore and threw it in the trash can we were sitting next to. Of course I went after it. Then he said I sucked and the only reason I won is that he had no lands. When he left I started laughing, that was the point of my deck, your not supposed to have lands.
Yeah, I've seen a couple people throw their own cards around (one guy I recall a while back threw his Armageddon across the room and walked out the store when I informed him that it was not actually in 10th edition like his friend had told him). I have never seen a player grab and toss their opponent's cards. I do not believe I would react calmly if that happened to me.
Well, it was a scepter of dominance which is a bargain bin 50 cent rare. If he had been tossing around the foil baneslayer i have in the same deck i probably would have ripped his face off.
I onced played against somebody using Faeries. Does that count?
yes it does.
I was playing slivers against elves 2/3, he won g1 with a nuts draw, I won g2 with a nuts draw, and g3 we both both got the nuts draw. The board looked like this:
Nettle Sentinel, Lanny Elves (both x3) and a bunch of other elf crud,
Winged Sliver, Pulmonic Sliver (x3), Crystalline Sliver. he had 5 poison counters and says "This game is going to drag on too long. I'm quitting but it's not a forfeit. And he refused to forfeit, just "quit". WTF?
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I have had some experience with unpleasant individuals. One guy, he gets mad when I beat him with "bad cards" like Thraximundar in my 4cc spread em deck. I beat his team america deck like 3 times in a row. I've beat him with rdw using giantbaiting (conspired) vs his fairy deck back in lorwyn. He just gets mad and taps the table and does wierd things. I just laugh at him. But the difference with this guy is he is usually more calm during actual sanctioned matches. He complains alot during random games for fun, but when we play in matches he shakes hands and though he might be flustered hes not a jerk about it.
One time I played a guy, he was playing some super fast kithkin deck with red in it. I was playing jund colors ramp with some nice stuff in it. He tells me his deck is super fast and it will be an easy win. He gets his T1 2/2 kithkin, and all his other stuff just curves out perfectly. Well I sweep his board and throw out some big spells (i really can't remember anymore) and I beat him both games. I hate when people act like they will beat you easily.
I can't imagine how some people get away with being real mean to people though. I'm quite a large individual (no not in the fat way lol you meanies!) so I guess angry violent players wouldn't want to be like that with me. I feel bad for some of the smaller people. I'm very soft spoken and I'm very nice but my size protects me I guess. But I'm reading all these posts and I'm just thinking "man, someone needs to go around kicking the asses of these jerks".
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I'm ashamed to admit that I'm one of those girls who only learned how to play magic because I lost a bet with my boyfriend, so I don't look that "legit". Sometimes when I go to tournaments it's advantageous when my opponents don't take me seriously and don't play as hard, but I hate when I do win and everyone just assumes I was lucky.
The worst opponent I ever played was at my local card shop. He never made eye contact once and listened to music the whole time. At one point I made a play error, realized it immediately, and asked to take it back. He refused, but then during his turn did the exact same thing and just told me that he was taking it back, he didn't even ask. All this, randomly interspersed with snide comments about me being female, made for a bad experience. Oh, and I lost, so I couldn't even rub things in his face.
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It bugs me when players consistently cheat and don't get banned. James Fulgium got dq'd from a tournament when I played him in tx b/c he tried to put a mana leak back in his hand with 2 lands via life from the loam. a couple weeks later, i think in the top 8, his opponent notices he drew an extra card and calls him on it. james then claims the other guy must have just forgotten to draw a card and that's why it was uneven. everyone always knew he cheated, but i never heard of a suspension. and the judge jeff zandi has to know james cheats. he's been at the scene often enough to notice the pattern.
lol just looked up some old stuff, remembered that, and wanted to post. if you look up 'James Fulgium' magic it brings this crap up.
One's principles may sometimes trump common courtesy. I've refused a handshake before as well.
I've lost games due to some lame reasons, like getting mana flooded or my opponent literally having an answer to every single one of my plays. However even thought I thought it was a bunch of crap that those things happened, I still say good game and shake my opponents hand.
You never know when you'll be playing that person again.
When I played this one guy at states I had a crap game where I got mana screwed one game, and flooded another. I still shook his hand and said Good game. Than my group of friends and I switched stores to and thats his regular store that he plays at and I can go up to him every time, strike up a conversation, play a game with him, laugh and have fun. Now if I hadn't shown that common courtesy I don't think I could say or have the type of fun games I do with him.
As many others here my rudest opponent (well, funniest instance anyway) came from MWS. We were playing Legacy, I played stax and he played some kind of WW/Kithkin deck; in the first few turns of land drops he played Flagstones of Trokair on T2. I responded with a Flagstones of my own on my T2; we bin our lands b/c of the legend rule and go to get plains, and I noticed that my opponent put a Windbrisk Hieghts in play off of it. This was the following chat log (little fuzzy, but it was very similar)
Me: you can't grab that off of Flagstones, it's not a Plains
opponent: yes it is, read the rulebooks
Me: ok...so read windbrisk and tell me exactly where it states that it has a subtype "plains"
opponent: YES IT DOES, GO READ A (bomb of the F variety) RULEBOOK!!!!!!!!!!!
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I'm the rudest opponent I've ever played. I go on epic sulks if something ridiculous happens, like Wall -> wall -> wall -> Conqueror's Pledge -> Bold Defence w/ kicker. Good game? Was it hell, I couldn't do anything, it was noninteractive all the way, you got SO lucky and I didn't draw my outs despite having 10 of them blah blah blah.
I can't help it, but I always apologise afterwards. Yes, my double-nighthawk draft deck might have just lost to your b/w pile but that doesn't make you any less of a human being.
i hate blatant cheaters.....at the conflux pre release i lost to a scrub, but i kept my sportsmanship and shook hands (i always thank the opponent for the game and shake hands)
then 2 rounds later, he was busted with 4 conflux rares actually in play! none of which were foil....(just in case u dont know, at the conflus pre release we get 3x shards boosters and 3x conflux boosters)
he was, in an unconvicing way, trying to make us believe that there was an error in the packs and randomly gave him the extra rare
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Well, the guy has a reputation for being kinda a sore loser I suppose. When I found out I was to play him I was so scared because he is pretty rude and scary to play. He brings his sons along and cusses at them too. The whole game I was scared and was sweating, haha.
Anyways, I find it is common courtesy to shake hands; or atleast say good game, not reply rudely back.
The rudest/worst MTG opponent that I have had the experience of playing against was at the Zendikar prerelease. My friend and I had paired up for two-headed Giant, and it was our second match after going 1-0 (myself playing a GB deck with A LOT of removal, and my partner playing a RW aggro deck). We sat down and were shuffling where a single person was sitting, a young kid, who told us that his dad was still modifying his list. The son was clearly the better player, but the father and he were literally screaming about their mana curve and how bad of a deck builder the other was. The game continued with the father in a bad attitude towards his son, saying “well you’re the better player, you decide!” whenever his son asked him a question. The father was a perfectly nice guy to us, despite his son’s disparaging remarks about our running “cheap” cards like Luminarch Ascension and Valakut, the Molten Pinnacle. The father even offered to concede, when it was obvious that it was futile according to him, but the son fought him and said that we had to play it out. After we slaughtered them and moved on to our next opponents, the father and son were still screaming at each other and fighting over what the other did wrong. Overall, it was just a negative experience, and I encourage anyone who plays Magic with their children, not to get stressed, please remember it is just a game.
Well, the guy has a reputation for being kinda a sore loser I suppose. When I found out I was to play him I was so scared because he is pretty rude and scary to play. He brings his sons along and cusses at them too. The whole game I was scared and was sweating, haha.
Anyways, I find it is common courtesy to shake hands; or atleast say good game, not reply rudely back.
that guy sounds like douche!
I haven't played any rude players so far (thank god)
One of my worst experiences was at a prerelease. Granted, since there's no card shop in town, and we have to drive to a town 3 hours away, that's usually the only tournaments we go to.
There's a lot of great guys there; they may kick our butts, but they're nice, polite, and considerate. Then there's THOSE guys. The ones who are amazing, but act like jerks. One of them always talks to his friends and/or listens to music, barely paying attention to the game. He has a "better than thou" attitude about him, and if you act like you've done anything good, he just shakes his head with the attitude of "oh, you're so naive"! If it weren't for the overwhelming amount of nice people, I'd probably stop going to the prereleases because of this guy and his friends. Not to mention they all smoke cheap cigarettes, so they REEK of smoke.
I was playing against some guy at a local fnm. I was piloting R/W Valakut control and he was playing some awful URW mill list. He accused me of cheating after playing Chandra Nalaar on turn five and then using her ultimate on turn seven. I even went through the motions of explaining that the only way the damage dealt to him made sense is if he took the two damage from Chandra on turn five and six. He even went as far as to tell the TO that I was cheating, and requested that he not play against me anymore. It mostly left a bad taste in my mouth. I got a smile out of it though when I was checking out the DCI ratings and saw that he was second to last in our area.
Then why did you call it a good game, when you knew neither of you didn't enjoy the game? I find it common courtesy to thank your opponent for playing, or wishing him a good luck on future match-ups (when in a tournament), or shaking his (or her) hand; but I don't find it common courtesy to call a bad game a good game.
Still, I believe you should say good game out of courtesy.
Still, I believe you should say good game out of courtesy.
To me good game is like "Thanks for playing me."
And any normal person as well. Some people lack regular social skills and find it offensive if someone says good game. Even though, since you are very little, you are taught to say good game afterwards in order to show respect to the person/team you played against.
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I must admit I'm generally a easy going guy, but when people start going on about how gay this is and how broken that is very violent thoughts suddenly appear in my head and I have to work hard not to loose my composure.
Bad experiences, not many. I just remember asking some guy once at fnm if he minded not smoking while we play. He then suddenly got quiet aggresive and told me it was his God-given right to smoke where he wanted and when he wanted. I then replied in similar fashion and said that's ok then but he shouldn't be a little ***** when I start sneezing and the snot starts to fly. We spent the whole match in perfect silence.
Rude people really get my blood boiling.
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That's sorta my experience(s) with rude people and MTG.
I like to play casually and as such I try to come up with quirky and unusual decks. Some people don't take it too well when they lose to me even though I am just trying to have fun and they throw their cards or decks even sometimes across the room :(. I don't like to play with those kinds of people.
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Well, it was a scepter of dominance which is a bargain bin 50 cent rare. If he had been tossing around the foil baneslayer i have in the same deck i probably would have ripped his face off.
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I was playing slivers against elves 2/3, he won g1 with a nuts draw, I won g2 with a nuts draw, and g3 we both both got the nuts draw. The board looked like this:
Nettle Sentinel, Lanny Elves (both x3) and a bunch of other elf crud,
Winged Sliver, Pulmonic Sliver (x3), Crystalline Sliver. he had 5 poison counters and says "This game is going to drag on too long. I'm quitting but it's not a forfeit. And he refused to forfeit, just "quit". WTF?
One time I played a guy, he was playing some super fast kithkin deck with red in it. I was playing jund colors ramp with some nice stuff in it. He tells me his deck is super fast and it will be an easy win. He gets his T1 2/2 kithkin, and all his other stuff just curves out perfectly. Well I sweep his board and throw out some big spells (i really can't remember anymore) and I beat him both games. I hate when people act like they will beat you easily.
I can't imagine how some people get away with being real mean to people though. I'm quite a large individual (no not in the fat way lol you meanies!) so I guess angry violent players wouldn't want to be like that with me. I feel bad for some of the smaller people. I'm very soft spoken and I'm very nice but my size protects me I guess. But I'm reading all these posts and I'm just thinking "man, someone needs to go around kicking the asses of these jerks".
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The worst opponent I ever played was at my local card shop. He never made eye contact once and listened to music the whole time. At one point I made a play error, realized it immediately, and asked to take it back. He refused, but then during his turn did the exact same thing and just told me that he was taking it back, he didn't even ask. All this, randomly interspersed with snide comments about me being female, made for a bad experience. Oh, and I lost, so I couldn't even rub things in his face.
My magic-related life goal is to become an amazing magic player and come back to my card shop after a 10 year hiatus and completely destroy everyone. Unlikely, but possible.
It bugs me when players consistently cheat and don't get banned. James Fulgium got dq'd from a tournament when I played him in tx b/c he tried to put a mana leak back in his hand with 2 lands via life from the loam. a couple weeks later, i think in the top 8, his opponent notices he drew an extra card and calls him on it. james then claims the other guy must have just forgotten to draw a card and that's why it was uneven. everyone always knew he cheated, but i never heard of a suspension. and the judge jeff zandi has to know james cheats. he's been at the scene often enough to notice the pattern.
lol just looked up some old stuff, remembered that, and wanted to post. if you look up 'James Fulgium' magic it brings this crap up.
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example of someone else's accusation http://www.pojo.com/Magic/featured writers/Zandi/2005/4-22.shtml
Common courtesy would have told him to keep his mouth shut and shake his hand.
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I've lost games due to some lame reasons, like getting mana flooded or my opponent literally having an answer to every single one of my plays. However even thought I thought it was a bunch of crap that those things happened, I still say good game and shake my opponents hand.
You never know when you'll be playing that person again.
When I played this one guy at states I had a crap game where I got mana screwed one game, and flooded another. I still shook his hand and said Good game. Than my group of friends and I switched stores to and thats his regular store that he plays at and I can go up to him every time, strike up a conversation, play a game with him, laugh and have fun. Now if I hadn't shown that common courtesy I don't think I could say or have the type of fun games I do with him.
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Me: you can't grab that off of Flagstones, it's not a Plains
opponent: yes it is, read the rulebooks
Me: ok...so read windbrisk and tell me exactly where it states that it has a subtype "plains"
opponent: YES IT DOES, GO READ A (bomb of the F variety) RULEBOOK!!!!!!!!!!!
system: Player Lost
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I can't help it, but I always apologise afterwards. Yes, my double-nighthawk draft deck might have just lost to your b/w pile but that doesn't make you any less of a human being.
then 2 rounds later, he was busted with 4 conflux rares actually in play! none of which were foil....(just in case u dont know, at the conflus pre release we get 3x shards boosters and 3x conflux boosters)
he was, in an unconvicing way, trying to make us believe that there was an error in the packs and randomly gave him the extra rare
Well, the guy has a reputation for being kinda a sore loser I suppose. When I found out I was to play him I was so scared because he is pretty rude and scary to play. He brings his sons along and cusses at them too. The whole game I was scared and was sweating, haha.
Anyways, I find it is common courtesy to shake hands; or atleast say good game, not reply rudely back.
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that guy sounds like douche!
I haven't played any rude players so far (thank god)
There's a lot of great guys there; they may kick our butts, but they're nice, polite, and considerate. Then there's THOSE guys. The ones who are amazing, but act like jerks. One of them always talks to his friends and/or listens to music, barely paying attention to the game. He has a "better than thou" attitude about him, and if you act like you've done anything good, he just shakes his head with the attitude of "oh, you're so naive"! If it weren't for the overwhelming amount of nice people, I'd probably stop going to the prereleases because of this guy and his friends. Not to mention they all smoke cheap cigarettes, so they REEK of smoke.
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Well luckily he is pretty much the only one.
But at my FNM's we have like 40-50 people...so bound to be one douche...:-/
Still, I believe you should say good game out of courtesy.
To me good game is like "Thanks for playing me."
And any normal person as well. Some people lack regular social skills and find it offensive if someone says good game. Even though, since you are very little, you are taught to say good game afterwards in order to show respect to the person/team you played against.
Yeah, that's how it''s sen in my area as well.
Bad experiences, not many. I just remember asking some guy once at fnm if he minded not smoking while we play. He then suddenly got quiet aggresive and told me it was his God-given right to smoke where he wanted and when he wanted. I then replied in similar fashion and said that's ok then but he shouldn't be a little ***** when I start sneezing and the snot starts to fly. We spent the whole match in perfect silence.
Rude people really get my blood boiling.
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