This isn't really a worst/rudest player as much as just a slimy player/players.
Preface: we played a CNS2 draft the night before last and I picked up cards for my two friends. Once we were done drafting and playing, they walked out of my apartment without paying me back or taking the cards they drafted. When I asked them to pay me, they said "Oh, we didn't plan on keeping the cards". It may have been a miscommunication if it were anyone else, but these two friends (they're a couple actually) have a history of cheaping out on things and leaving my wife and I to foot the bill on their behalf. We've also split boxes/fat packs etc with them before only to have them literally say "we'll pay our portion after we see what cards we get because we don't really collect Magic cards and we just want to keep valuable ones to sell them". That's pretty slimy and of course I never let that happen.
Anyway, after the CNS2 thing happened the night before, there was a bit of a clash between us as we hashed out how cheap they were being. Fast forward to last night, and we've got company visiting and we are all doing a special draft: all unhinged packs. Cheapasses A and B only bought 3 packs between them, so we let them draft and play as one person so they could both participate. Anyway, we start the draft and don't Cheapasses A and B sit there with their phones in their faces looking up the value of EVERY SINGLE CARD in each pack before they draft a card from them! I looked at my wife and gave her a face of disgust and she just rolled her eyes. No one said anything to them and thankfully they didn't actually pull anything of value anyway. But come on...that's a scumbag thing to do.
To temper all of this, the girl just told us she won a football pool at work for $170 and recently was paid for a commercial she was in for $3.5k and her boyfriend just got a lump sum from a commercial he did of $7.5k. Neither one of them is hurting for money, but it seems like that's all they care about, even if it means screwing over their friends. Really grinds my gears.
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Easy solution – stop inviting them. I wouldn't want to play with people like that.
I think the rudest players I have met all coincidentally had four Sol Rings in their decks and when you call them out on it
they all give the "we are just casual" excuse.
One happened last night. It was a newer player borrowing a Bant Company deck and didn't know how to pilot it correctly. That was fine, but he was misplaying and missing triggers every turn and I had to remind him. He got really annoyed with me letting him know some lands comes in tapped and kept missing transform triggers yelling stuff like I can't play anything anyways and it doesn't matter. I mean, it matters to me since it's the difference between walking into a CoCo.
Afterward he got huffy because he thought he was a better player with a better deck and that I got lucky. Okay buddy.
Nobody likes people who play winter orb in EDH. Seriously, land destruction is the most hated mechanic in magic and winter orb is basically geddon for 2 mana because if you have 16 tapped lands when it resolves, you're telling me it will take literal forever for my lands to untap to cast something. Even if you blow it up, they just say okay get it back with daretti. Yay fun game of magic you have there, do you mind if I blow my brains out due to how good this game is making me feel?
Exactly.
And it was that plus Ensnaring Bridge.
Like, give me a break.
Dude, have you ever played against lantern control in modern? The idea of the deck is he makes it so you can't attack ever with ensnaring bridge, and you both play with your top card of deck revealed and basically mills away all of your win conditions, artifact removal and hate, and practically soft locks the game. Play against it twice in a row at a tournament, then we'll talk.
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Nobody likes people who play winter orb in EDH. Seriously, land destruction is the most hated mechanic in magic and winter orb is basically geddon for 2 mana because if you have 16 tapped lands when it resolves, you're telling me it will take literal forever for my lands to untap to cast something. Even if you blow it up, they just say okay get it back with daretti. Yay fun game of magic you have there, do you mind if I blow my brains out due to how good this game is making me feel?
Exactly.
And it was that plus Ensnaring Bridge.
Like, give me a break.
Dude, have you ever played against lantern control in modern? The idea of the deck is he makes it so you can't attack ever with ensnaring bridge, and you both play with your top card of deck revealed and basically mills away all of your win conditions, artifact removal and hate, and practically soft locks the game. Play against it twice in a row at a tournament, then we'll talk.
But that's in Modern in a tournament. I'm fine with that (although I know how annoying and un-fun that is to play against ... but still, it's a competitive environment and if someone builds a deck like that and I can't beat it, then so be it).
I'm just saying people shouldn't play cards like that in casual formats.
Dude, have you ever played against lantern control in modern? The idea of the deck is he makes it so you can't attack ever with ensnaring bridge, and you both play with your top card of deck revealed and basically mills away all of your win conditions, artifact removal and hate, and practically soft locks the game. Play against it twice in a row at a tournament, then we'll talk.
But that's in Modern in a tournament. I'm fine with that (although I know how annoying and un-fun that is to play against ... but still, it's a competitive environment and if someone builds a deck like that and I can't beat it, then so be it).
I'm just saying people shouldn't play cards like that in casual formats.
No, that wasn't the bad part of the games: After the first game the guy wanted to see my deck, so I let him, and he went on to critique the deck, and talk about how I should change it into a deck that would change all but 8 cards, and basics. (Lightning Bolt and Impact Tremors) So, I responded with: "Dude, I'm not going to change this deck: When it stops winning, I'll tweak it; When I get the money, I'll invest in fetches and inquisitions. But until the day I die, or find a deck I like more, I'm not going to change it." He proceeded to stomp away, and talk ***** about my deck to my friends, and competitors that I knew from coming to the shop; And from what I know, they gave him some lip. I haven't seen him at the shop, or tournaments since then.
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But that's in Modern in a tournament. I'm fine with that (although I know how annoying and un-fun that is to play against ... but still, it's a competitive environment and if someone builds a deck like that and I can't beat it, then so be it).
I'm just saying people shouldn't play cards like that in casual formats.
But EDH isn't a casual format, it's a social format where a lot of players like to play casually. Nothing wrong with playing competitive EDH decks and having a blast with it, except when you mix decks with vastly different powerlevels in a game. A lot of the time it is okay since it turns into Archenemy without the schemes but a good stax-deck can easily lock down 3 weak casual decks.
I guess my point is that this thread in my opinion should be more along the lines off "This opponent acted like a douche and his rudeness was so hilariously arrogant" rather than "There was this guy who played a card I don't like playing against, how rude!".
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But that's in Modern in a tournament. I'm fine with that (although I know how annoying and un-fun that is to play against ... but still, it's a competitive environment and if someone builds a deck like that and I can't beat it, then so be it).
I'm just saying people shouldn't play cards like that in casual formats.
But EDH isn't a casual format, it's a social format where a lot of players like to play casually. Nothing wrong with playing competitive EDH decks and having a blast with it, except when you mix decks with vastly different powerlevels in a game. A lot of the time it is okay since it turns into Archenemy without the schemes but a good stax-deck can easily lock down 3 weak casual decks.
I guess my point is that this thread in my opinion should be more along the lines off "This opponent acted like a douche and his rudeness was so hilariously arrogant" rather than "There was this guy who played a card I don't like playing against, how rude!".
I feel you're splitting hairs there, but whatever, let's let this debate die so the thread can get back on track.
Luckily I've never had a super rude opponent ... I think the worst one was simply a guy who very emphatically called for a judge during FNM when I made a very simple mistake (like missing a trigger or something like that).
Honestly, the rudest player I've ever encountered was at a simple LGS Standard tournament back during the era of INN-RTR standard. I predominantly play EDH and limited, because I don't get to play regularly enough to keep up with Standard or Modern metas. On this occasion, however, I got the itch to try a one-off standard tourney to kill a Saturday afternoon. With little prep time, I threw together a RB aggro deck full of mostly commons and uncommons and went in with little to no expectations of doing anything other than having fun. My round one opponent was playing W/U Sphinx's Revelation control. Two losses later, he cussed me out for playing a "stupid scrub deck", told me to "get serious", and promptly dropped from the tournament. When he walked past me on his way out of the store, I heard him asking his buddy, "what kind of (expletive) plays Rakdos Shred-Freak in Standard?".
Apparently the guy with the $20 deck that just made you drop after one round, friend-o...
But that's in Modern in a tournament. I'm fine with that (although I know how annoying and un-fun that is to play against ... but still, it's a competitive environment and if someone builds a deck like that and I can't beat it, then so be it).
I'm just saying people shouldn't play cards like that in casual formats.
But EDH isn't a casual format, it's a social format where a lot of players like to play casually. Nothing wrong with playing competitive EDH decks and having a blast with it, except when you mix decks with vastly different powerlevels in a game. A lot of the time it is okay since it turns into Archenemy without the schemes but a good stax-deck can easily lock down 3 weak casual decks.
I guess my point is that this thread in my opinion should be more along the lines off "This opponent acted like a douche and his rudeness was so hilariously arrogant" rather than "There was this guy who played a card I don't like playing against, how rude!".
Dude, EDH is a casual format. It was created by judges in their off time to have fun. The banlist isn't run by Wizards and they take a hands-off approach except for releasing product.
But that's in Modern in a tournament. I'm fine with that (although I know how annoying and un-fun that is to play against ... but still, it's a competitive environment and if someone builds a deck like that and I can't beat it, then so be it).
I'm just saying people shouldn't play cards like that in casual formats.
But EDH isn't a casual format, it's a social format where a lot of players like to play casually. Nothing wrong with playing competitive EDH decks and having a blast with it, except when you mix decks with vastly different powerlevels in a game. A lot of the time it is okay since it turns into Archenemy without the schemes but a good stax-deck can easily lock down 3 weak casual decks.
I guess my point is that this thread in my opinion should be more along the lines off "This opponent acted like a douche and his rudeness was so hilariously arrogant" rather than "There was this guy who played a card I don't like playing against, how rude!".
Dude, EDH is a casual format. It was created by judges in their off time to have fun. The banlist isn't run by Wizards and they take a hands-off approach except for releasing product.
The definition of "Casual" is fluid and changes from person to person, so the argument that one should or shouldn't play certain cards or combos is a moot point. Casual is an area where someone can try to build a Rebel deck, or where someone can try to make ridiculous combos happen that couldn't happen in competitive sanctioned formats. It is what any individual makes it and no one cares until they lose.
Anyway, as the guy you quoted ended with, this thread shouldn't be about "Call the wambulance, someone played a card I don't like". This also isn't a thread for a debate on what is or isn't casual.
Worst experience I had was on an extended format tournament at my local store at the times of the first Mirrodin set.
Needless to say I was a total noob, but we have all been noobs once, right?
Anyway, I was playing a ramp deck that stole permanents using memnarch with mycosynth lattice... It was sloooow, but when it worked it was fun to steal your opponent's win conditions.
Was going for a game against an infinite-life-combo-cleric deck on third game, my opponent managed to get "infinite life" and after that he kept saying:
- "I have infinite life, I can call a draw on out game".
I didn't care and honestly didn't belive him, because it made little sense: you can lose even if you have "infinite life".
I had Memnarch on the field and proceded to steal his win condition test of endurance and the Words of Worship he had on the field to replenish my health and win in a few turns.
He continued to repeat
- "I can call a draw at any time, why do you want to keep playing?"
Needless to say, he didn't draw a response and I won the game. At that point he called the judge (or at least the person who was the rules referee... Who was also the store owner and a friend of my opponent) and proceded to say that even if I had won, he had "infinite life" so he called the game a draw.
... And the "judge" was like
- "Ok, you are right, the game is a draw, play another one."
Even if I argued a bit about the fact that I won even if he had "infinite life".
He then proceded to say:
- "Oh, but if you manage to get infinite life or infinite mana, the game ends in a draw.."
Which was bull****, especially at the time when infinite mana meant that you suffered infinite mana-burn damage at the end of phases.
Well... Never went to the store again... One year later it closed down... (some personal satisfaction)
Wow, the store owner must have not been familiar with the rules: You aren't able to cause declare that you have infinite life; You can call any number and say that you have that much life, but in magic, there is no such thing as infinite life. Also: That deck sounds like a deck that I would play, because my friends always hated that I could make decks better than them.
(Excluding my friend's deck, which at the time we didn't understand the rules: We thought Ajani, Mentor of Heroes + The Chain Veil meant 200 Life a turn, and the rest of his deck was just big beaters that we couldn't kill, Terra Stomper, Aegis Angel, and just annoying stuff, along with elixir of Immortality to continually refill his deck; He stopped playing about the time I realized how planeswalkers worked along with The Chain Veil)
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I had played for about 12 years when I quit back in 2009 (started in 1997).
I was at the Zendikar pre-release at my LGS. I was 3-1-1 or something. Win and in to Top8. I can't remember the board states, but I knew it was game 3 in the match. The entire match, the guy I was playing was just obnoxious. Telling me how good of a player he was, how many tournaments he'd been too (I found out later that he always performed poorly at the bigger tournaments) and worst of all he smelled HORRIFIC. By the time game 3 rolled around, I was starving, and was totally losing focus because of this guy I was playing.
He went to cast a spell, that if resolved, meant I would lose the game in a few turns. I looked at my hand and my untapped lands and said "sure", he passed the turn to me. BEFORE drawing, I realized I had a Cancel in my hand. I set Cancel aside face-down, drew my card and extended my hand. He immediately started talking crap about how good he and his deck was. I said "Sure. You didn't win, though. I lost" and flipped the Cancel over. I left after that, and heard from a friend that he didn't talk the rest of the night, and went 0-2 in his first match of Top8. I have since returned to the LGS and I don't think I've seen the guy since. I just came back this spring, so it has been almost 7 years.
Admittedly, once it was me who was a bit of a jerk. We can't all be good people all the time. During a four player EDH game, one guy played a Sol Ring on turn one or two, which I promptly destroyed. He reacted extremely pissed, as if destroying a Sol Ring in EDH were somehow universally considered taboo. Well, no. We all know that Sol Ring is extremely powerful early game and I decided to prevent him from taking over the game. Turn three he plays a Burnished Hart. I laugh, and Krosan Grip his Hart. I did it partly because it would have put him two turns ahead which I sought to prevent, but mostly because I can't stand people who get salty and insulting about legitimate game moves. Predictably he got REALLY pissed, insulting me throughout the entire game. During the next game, all he did was attack me, completely ignoring all other threats, insulting me all throughout the game. What a petty, sore, vindictive loser. Naturally, I don't play with him anymore.
Am I a jerk for preventing somebody from getting four turns ahead? If I were him, I would have been annoyed, too, but in those cases I just sigh theatrically, tell everybody they are priviliged *****lords, have a laugh and move on. Had he been less obnoxious I would have let him have his Burnished Hart. He didn't miss a single land drop, so I wasn't mana screwing him. He just seems to be the kind of player who gets pissed off whenever you prevent them from playing the game in goldfish mode.
Well, screwing someone over just because you can is part of the multiplayer experience, as is revenge, best served cold. His attitude did seem pretty bad about the whole experience, although I've been on his end of such games more than I care to admit. While he certainly went over the line in his actions, he also had a right to be salty about what happened, just as I was when a player with minimal board presence countered my wipe in the face of a third player with overwhelming board presence.
Alright, I got a new stroy from a Modern PPTQ I was in this weekend (2-4);
Unfortunately, I didn't play this guy: A friend of mine, a very generous player at that,playing Ad Nauseam Justin.
He was playing against Mardu Harbringer
Basically: Game 3, Match 2
Justin, Turn 19: Untap, Draw, pass.
Opponent, Turn 20: Untap, Dark Confidant trigger, (Chalice of the Void), draw. Chalice for 10.
Justin, turn 21: Untap, Draw, "F***.", Pass
Opponent, Turn 22: Untap, Bob trigger: Emrakul, The Aeons Torn, Draw. "Are you Kidding me?"
Justin, Turn 23: Untap, Draw; "Yeah I'm just gonna hardcast this and win, GG"
The guy scooped after the next match, he had to play Ad Nauseam again.
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Yesterday played against this UWR control player in Modern.
Game 1 I beat him he is unable to stop my valakut hitting for 6.
Game 2 I mulligan for 6, I accidently draw 7 and keep the hand (I put in back on top and reshuffle deck), he treats FNM like competitive REL, then calls the judge to tell me mull to 5, I somehow lost this game due to keep drawing land.
Game 3, I Crumble to Dust his tech edge so it wont hit my valakut, he literally throw his hand to my playmat lol, I think I missed some Courser of Kruphix gain 1 life triggers, I said "oh by the way Kruphix gain 1 life trigger" he will say "too late you just missed".
Then there is also a time while I shuffle my deck, he ghost quarter my land, and he said "you can't search since you are already searching the deck".
After all I was at 9 life he can kill me next turn by hitting me with a pumped Resto angel (elspeth + ability) and Finks, but I topdeck a summoner pact to get Titan to do 12 damage to and kill him, then he said "just ****ing drop me" and then immediately leave the store.
Hope it's fine to reply to a thread that hasn't had a post in a year, given that it's 77 pages long and on-topic.
Off-topic - have enjoyed reading and am only up to page 26, but Jesus Christ, how averse to net-decking are people? Don't get me wrong; I know all too well that many MtG players are over-competitive in environments that don't call for it and can get out of hand, but when someone brings a netdeck to a competitive environment (and make no mistake, even a FNM is competitive when rating and prizes are on offer) they're often making a smart tactical decision. In many, and dare I say most sports and games in life, you don't get bonus points for creativity. An Olympic silver winning weightlifter doesn't suddenly get pushed up to gold because their training regime was a homebrew, while the gold medal winner used a tried and tested regime that had been circulating for many years.
Because I'm only on page 26 it's possible that in the 7 years since then (2010) players as a whole have adjusted their mentality, but I don't know what would've changed in the past 10 years to bring that about. It's just amazing to see how many people are treating a proper tactical move (online research) as though it's a weakness.
On-topic - about a month ago, I had been having some online casual games, when I started a 3 player casual multiplayer FFA EDH with two people I didn't know. One was perfectly pleasant, playing a fun - while also being half-decent - green white deck. The other was playing a pretty aggressive red black deck, which he later revealed was a suicidal deck; not designed to win a whole MP game but to take at least one player down on the way out.
Anyway, the RB player's attitude was just obnoxious. Unnecessarily aggressive including a lot of unnecessary swearing (like saying "%&!$ you" to either of us when we did something that hindered him), and *****ed and moaned about any and every card that was disadvantageous to him. When the GW player was so pleasant, it was a huge contrast to also be playing against someone that was basically sapping a lot of fun out of the game. It's the entire reason that I targeted him before the other guy, which of course only made things worse.
Anyway, the RB player's attitude was just obnoxious. Unnecessarily aggressive including a lot of unnecessary swearing (like saying "%&!$ you" to either of us when we did something that hindered him), and *****ed and moaned about any and every card that was disadvantageous to him. When the GW player was so pleasant, it was a huge contrast to also be playing against someone that was basically sapping a lot of fun out of the game. It's the entire reason that I targeted him before the other guy, which of course only made things worse.
Unless there are young children in earshot, in which case everybody should watch their language by default, it's probably a good idea to establish your policy on profanity beforehand. Still, ending up in a game with poor sports is an unfortunately common side effect of sitting down with strangers.
This one wasn't so much 'rude', but a big disagreement in what falls under casual.
4 of us are playing on my usual MTG program, allowing us to use whatever cards we want - though from my experience, most people on this program have some understanding of what a fair power level in the casual metagame of it is.
Load into a 2HG game, and me and the other spectator are just waiting for 2 people to finish a 1v1 (one playing a seemingly standard energy deck, the other playing the recent Tezzeret duel deck, as well as having no saved decks of their own - I suspected they were new, but as the last person to enter the room this wasn't confirmed for me until midway through the 2HG game).
Notice opponent in question going through some sideboard cards for one of their decks (this isn't so much a red flag; a lot of player on this prog don't have true sideboard, but keep potential swaps with their deck that they can change depending on how they're feeling), and see 4x Rest in Peace and 4x Leyline of the Void - with so much graveyard hate, abandon my original deck (a deck full of clones the gets most of its power from Reveillark + Body Double to make them a lot harder to keep down), and swap to a modern casual enchantment deck that basically doesn't use the graveyard. We get started.
Opposing players go first. Turn 1, opponent in question plays Thoughtseize. "That's a pretty hardcore card for casual", I'm thinking, but if it's the only powerful card we see, no worries. Turn 2 was something fairly innocent, if anything at all. Turn 3 - Liliana, the Last Hope, which ended up absorbing a fair chunk of damage from our evasive creatures. Turn 4 - Snapcaster Mage into Thoughtseize, into Thought Scour on himself, which ended up revealing a Tarmogoyf. By this point, I've all but had enough - we were winning so of course I kept playing, but I was feeling pretty salty. During their next turn when they went to Snapcaster a Serum Visions, I was trying to explain to my teammate the 'counter' interaction he had (Beckon Apparition on the Serum Visions), and that's when they revealed that they knew my teammate was very new, and that's why it was so tough to explain how it was going to interfere with their play. Then he tried to weasel out of the card choice! Essentially, how it had run down was this: he played Snapcaster Mage, and I told him to wait as he looked through his graveyard, as we had a potential response. I say "target", and he says "Serum Visions". Yes, I should have been clear and said that we're letting the spell resolve but responding to the triggered ability - but this is blooming casual plus having to teach a newer player how to respond to that triggered ability! When he started saying "in that case I'll target X instead", I was done with just putting up with it. I was just like "dude, you know exactly what I meant - don't do that when you're playing a deck like that in casual". He goes on to admit that his deck is pretty good in 1v1, but "this is 2v2 so it's not quite as strong, and so I think it's fair". Never mind that it's 1 (team) v 1 (team), with my team being handicapped by a pretty new player (I didn't mention this as I didn't want to be rude to my ally), and that the only reason his team lost is because his ally got land screwed on 2 after mulling to 6, and he had given my ally a pretty decent deck that was fortunately fairly straight forward.
Yes, we all have different definitions of what 'casual' in Magic means, but come on. If you're playing a competitive control deck in a casual format that isn't 3+ teams, that's pretty uncool. Don't try and play it off because there are technically 4 players through those 4 teams, and if you are going to take that angle at least have the balls to accept that you brought it out despite knowing that one of your opponents was a newbie. I have no problem with people who want to play competitively, of course - but if you know you're not in a session that's competitive, don't bring those decks, or at least ask permission if you think there's some mitigating circumstances like it being a 2v2.
Anyone play against some who does on or some or all of these
-Always has an excuse why they lost (and it is never just "damn you played better than me"
-Critiques your deck the whole time, the plays you make, etc., as you are beating them/after you beat them
-Tries to tell you "Thats not the right choice to make in this situation" even when you are beating them/or after you beat them
One thing I have noticed about a lot of MTG players, especially net-deckers, is that they do not handle losing well. Furthermore, net-deckers get really salty when they get beat by some home-brew that is not on the Pro-Tour.
There was a guy who played briefly with a casual group of players, myself included, who would frequently play what he called his, "thief deck." It was a deck that sometimes switched control of permanents frequently, using things like Avarice Totem (frequently combo'd with Bronze Bombshell), and more often outright gained control of other players's permanents a la Annex, Dominating Licid, Control Magic, and many more based around that theme.
It was often extremely difficult to get the cards back from him at the end of any given hand. As annoying as the deck was, we eventually realized that the goal of the deck wasn't to win hands, but rather to actually steal cards. Eventually he was told he couldn't play that deck anymore, and after he was caught stealing even after the deck was banned, there was a physical altercation and he was cast out from the group forever more. What a dickbag.
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Only one story but it's a good one. Playing a team EDH game at LFGS, guy across from the general on my left playing 5c super friends constantly talking about how he's going to wrath, and armageddon and **** up everybody's stuff ect...so he drops a Sorin Markov and put my general at 10. My next turn I get deadeye navigator hooked up with a brutalizer exarch and proceed to put all his PW's on the bottom of his library. He was not happy about this and cranks up the smack talk, I keep him from doing much for another turn or two, and then he says "this MFer is going to get shot in the parking lot" (I live in a concealed carry state, have a CCW, and am always armed) when he said that I stood up and said "I wouldn't recommend it", he replies "and what the **** are you gonna do about it?"...I just stretched so my 1911 printed quite obviously and said "I'm armed"...he turned white as a ghost, picked up his cards, raced out of the store, and I've never seen him since.
Never judge a book by it's cover, some of us geeky types aren't JUST geeks.
Why the hell would you bring a gun into a game store that is probably full of children?
I know you're going to say you're always safe with your gun, you're super responsible, etc, etc, but jesus. What the hell did you think was going to happen playing magic that you might need a gun? Further, YOU ACTUALLY THREATENED SOMEONE WITH A FIREARM AT A GAME STORE. Maybe next time don't take it, since frankly, you sound a little unhinged, and if I witnessed this, I would be extremely uncomfortable playing anywhere near you.
"What the hell did you think was going to happen playing magic that you might need a gun?"
What did those people in ::insert modern active shooter situation:: think was going to happen that they need a gun?
99.9999999% of the time you will never need it. But if that .000000001% chance happens, it will be the single most important moment of your life, and I don't know about you, but I don't like putting my fate in the hand of a crazy person with a gun. It is our job to protect ourselves, not anyone else's.
People always say "You dont need a gun, nothing is going to happen", but look at what is happening these days. It does and can happen, and you can either be prepared or you can just hope for the best.
I will concede that this part, "I just stretched so my 1911 printed quite obviously and said "I'm armed", was not the smart play. The whole idea behind concealed carry is that it is concealed, and you never, ever want to let anyone know you have a gun until you absolutely need to draw. Beyond being a tactical disadvantage, the other guy could have called the cops and say he threatened him.
On topic: There are a few people I hate winning against because they are sore losers. It actually takes the fun out of winning. I hate that. But those people are often poor winners too, they gloat and make sure to tell you everything wrong with your plays and your deck, but not in a useful or constructive manner.
A few months ago I tried out a new LGS after my old one shut down. Everything was going fine until my round three opponent, who turned out to be MODO incarnate, only working against you. At the beginning he brushed off my small talk to try and be friendly. Then he made sure I name all my phases, triggers, and whatnot. If I announce one thing wrong he would grill me for it. For example I was attacking with a Walking Ballista and he used Blessed Alliance on it, choosing for me to sac it. I tell him I sac in response to deal 2 damage to him, only for him to yell at me that I'm not allowed to do that because I didn't make it clear what I'm sacrificing it for and will proceed to sac to BA's effect, not Ballista's own. I really didn't care about the two damage anyways since he was playing a really bad Bant Turbofog deck and I was going to win regardless, which I do. During the winning turn I swing for game and ask him if he had another fog effect, and he angrily snide he doesn't. I asked if I won but he snides again that he says he doesn't have a fog effect, but he does have removal, and I should "read between the lines" as if his mind games have worked. I had to keep myself from laughing because even he though he kills one of my attackers, I still had lethal on board so it didn't matter either way.
Some others in the store tells me he's a level one judge and tries to play the rules lawyer against new players, but it never works against experienced ones because he's really a terrible player in general. One person said they had him join a group playing a friendly game of EDH at Denny's once. The douche had his lands all messed up and you couldn't tell what lands they were and if they were tapped or not. One opponent asked what lands were untapped. He replies he should look for himself. The opponent goes over to look at the lands only for the douche to scream at him that he never gave him permission to touch his cards.
But yeah, seems people just tolerate him because he's an easy win. I've never played at that store again.
Anyone play against some who does on or some or all of these
-Always has an excuse why they lost (and it is never just "damn you played better than me"
-Critiques your deck the whole time, the plays you make, etc., as you are beating them/after you beat them
-Tries to tell you "Thats not the right choice to make in this situation" even when you are beating them/or after you beat them
One thing I have noticed about a lot of MTG players, especially net-deckers, is that they do not handle losing well. Furthermore, net-deckers get really salty when they get beat by some home-brew that is not on the Pro-Tour.
I sort of had this experience playing Double Moon Walkers against this guy in the first round of a Modern side event at a GP. He was playing Bant Eldrazi, which is actually a pretty favorable matchup for me. In the first game, I control the board pretty effectively with Planeswalkers and eventually land a Doubling Season, and the guys says something like, "I didn't realize we were playing EDH." There's probably a way to make that comment in good humor, but that's not how he seemed to mean it. I win next turn by playing and ulting Chandra, Torch of Defiance. In game two, he's pretty noticeably irritated. For the most part, he's not openly hostile towards me personally, but every play I make gets met with some snide comment. I get Doubling Season out pretty early and ult Nahiri, and attack him with Emrakul. He even had Eldrazi Displacer out, but was short one mana to tap down Emrakul. He sacks most of his board without saying a word and goes down to 3. Next turn, he is able to counterattack and put me to 4, but I play Xenagos the Reveler next turn and make two Satyrs for the win. He tells me Xenagos only makes one, but I remind him about Doubling Season. He slams the chair in when he leaves.
Really, that's your attitude going into the first round?
It is our job to protect ourselves, not anyone else's.
Hmm, this seems to be different from where i live, so i have to ask: what is the job of the police in your country?
I know I would get this, and perhaps I did not do the best job of wording this. Police are there to enforce laws. A byproduct of doing that is protecting people, I understand that. "Protect and Serve" and all that. So you are right, part of what police do is protecting you. But, you should not rely on that 100% because police are not going to be around you all the time. Besides, would you rather have your life in your own hands, or the hands of someone else? I am always going to want my fate in my own hands, not anyone else's.
But lets look at this practically....
We know there cannot be police posted everywhere 24/7.
Lets say you are at Church, Wal-Mart, the movies, or your LGS and some crazy guy comes in with a gun. If there is no police or armed guard there, what will you do? How quickly can the police respond? Will it be too late? When seconds count, the police are minutes away. Now if every place you go to has armed guards or police posted outside then you don't have to worry. But, that is rare.
So while police do help protect you, they aren't with you 24/7 everywhere you go. If you are ever in an active shooter situation, you can call the police, but they are going to take at least a couple minutes to get there. Even if it only takes the cops a minute to arrive, there is a lot that can happen in a minute and for many people it is too late. We see this time and time again on the news. The police around here do a great job, and there is a huge police presence. But, they aren't following everyone around everywhere they go. Also, if an active shooter is picking a target, they are going to look for a place where there will likely be no Police.
That is why I say it is our job to protect ourselves, because we are the only people who can protect ourselves 24/7, 365. Unless you can hire an armed guard to go with you everywhere, if you can, more power to you. But if I could afford that, I wouldn't be so against spending 40 bucks on a Chandra.
So it comes down to this: Who would you rather be in charge of your fate? Yourself, or someone else you don't even know. I choose me every time.This has nothing to do with not trusting police officers, and more to do with the fact that they cannot be around me every time, and they cannot magically appear when I need them. If there was a button you could press that makes a police officer instantly teleport to your location, this conversation would be pointless.
Anyways, just so I can stay on topic....Not really a rude story but this did annoy me.
Went to a friends house to meet some other friends and play Magic. We haven't seen each other in a while. We decided to play EDH. I will admit that my friends can be jerks, we have always been jerks to each other, and being offended only makes you more of a target. This is standard guy behavior in my experience, or maybe my friends are just jerks. We hung out for a whole weekend.
My one buddy, we will call him, Ed...I was the only person he targeted in EDH throughout the whole weekend. I was the only person he attacked, the only person's spells he countered, etc. The whole weekend...every game. It started to get on my nerves and I expressed that fact. So what does he do? Focuses on me harder. I will admit I was annoyed. Even if he had an open path to attack someone else with zero board state, he chose me. It was a very frustrating weekend for Magic. Many people would not last long in my circle of friends.
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Easy solution – stop inviting them. I wouldn't want to play with people like that.
they all give the "we are just casual" excuse.
Afterward he got huffy because he thought he was a better player with a better deck and that I got lucky. Okay buddy.
Standard: BG Golgari Midrange
Modern: U Merfolk GWUBR 5 Color Humans UBW Esper Gifts GW Bogles
Dude, have you ever played against lantern control in modern? The idea of the deck is he makes it so you can't attack ever with ensnaring bridge, and you both play with your top card of deck revealed and basically mills away all of your win conditions, artifact removal and hate, and practically soft locks the game. Play against it twice in a row at a tournament, then we'll talk.
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But that's in Modern in a tournament. I'm fine with that (although I know how annoying and un-fun that is to play against ... but still, it's a competitive environment and if someone builds a deck like that and I can't beat it, then so be it).
I'm just saying people shouldn't play cards like that in casual formats.
No, that wasn't the bad part of the games: After the first game the guy wanted to see my deck, so I let him, and he went on to critique the deck, and talk about how I should change it into a deck that would change all but 8 cards, and basics. (Lightning Bolt and Impact Tremors) So, I responded with: "Dude, I'm not going to change this deck: When it stops winning, I'll tweak it; When I get the money, I'll invest in fetches and inquisitions. But until the day I die, or find a deck I like more, I'm not going to change it." He proceeded to stomp away, and talk ***** about my deck to my friends, and competitors that I knew from coming to the shop; And from what I know, they gave him some lip. I haven't seen him at the shop, or tournaments since then.
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But EDH isn't a casual format, it's a social format where a lot of players like to play casually. Nothing wrong with playing competitive EDH decks and having a blast with it, except when you mix decks with vastly different powerlevels in a game. A lot of the time it is okay since it turns into Archenemy without the schemes but a good stax-deck can easily lock down 3 weak casual decks.
I guess my point is that this thread in my opinion should be more along the lines off "This opponent acted like a douche and his rudeness was so hilariously arrogant" rather than "There was this guy who played a card I don't like playing against, how rude!".
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I feel you're splitting hairs there, but whatever, let's let this debate die so the thread can get back on track.
Luckily I've never had a super rude opponent ... I think the worst one was simply a guy who very emphatically called for a judge during FNM when I made a very simple mistake (like missing a trigger or something like that).
Apparently the guy with the $20 deck that just made you drop after one round, friend-o...
Dude, EDH is a casual format. It was created by judges in their off time to have fun. The banlist isn't run by Wizards and they take a hands-off approach except for releasing product.
The definition of "Casual" is fluid and changes from person to person, so the argument that one should or shouldn't play certain cards or combos is a moot point. Casual is an area where someone can try to build a Rebel deck, or where someone can try to make ridiculous combos happen that couldn't happen in competitive sanctioned formats. It is what any individual makes it and no one cares until they lose.
Anyway, as the guy you quoted ended with, this thread shouldn't be about "Call the wambulance, someone played a card I don't like". This also isn't a thread for a debate on what is or isn't casual.
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Wow, the store owner must have not been familiar with the rules: You aren't able to
causedeclare that you have infinite life; You can call any number and say that you have that much life, but in magic, there is no such thing as infinite life. Also: That deck sounds like a deck that I would play, because my friends always hated that I could make decks better than them.(Excluding my friend's deck, which at the time we didn't understand the rules: We thought Ajani, Mentor of Heroes + The Chain Veil meant 200 Life a turn, and the rest of his deck was just big beaters that we couldn't kill, Terra Stomper, Aegis Angel, and just annoying stuff, along with elixir of Immortality to continually refill his deck; He stopped playing about the time I realized how planeswalkers worked along with The Chain Veil)
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I was at the Zendikar pre-release at my LGS. I was 3-1-1 or something. Win and in to Top8. I can't remember the board states, but I knew it was game 3 in the match. The entire match, the guy I was playing was just obnoxious. Telling me how good of a player he was, how many tournaments he'd been too (I found out later that he always performed poorly at the bigger tournaments) and worst of all he smelled HORRIFIC. By the time game 3 rolled around, I was starving, and was totally losing focus because of this guy I was playing.
He went to cast a spell, that if resolved, meant I would lose the game in a few turns. I looked at my hand and my untapped lands and said "sure", he passed the turn to me. BEFORE drawing, I realized I had a Cancel in my hand. I set Cancel aside face-down, drew my card and extended my hand. He immediately started talking crap about how good he and his deck was. I said "Sure. You didn't win, though. I lost" and flipped the Cancel over. I left after that, and heard from a friend that he didn't talk the rest of the night, and went 0-2 in his first match of Top8. I have since returned to the LGS and I don't think I've seen the guy since. I just came back this spring, so it has been almost 7 years.
Well, screwing someone over just because you can is part of the multiplayer experience, as is revenge, best served cold. His attitude did seem pretty bad about the whole experience, although I've been on his end of such games more than I care to admit. While he certainly went over the line in his actions, he also had a right to be salty about what happened, just as I was when a player with minimal board presence countered my wipe in the face of a third player with overwhelming board presence.
Unfortunately, I didn't play this guy: A friend of mine, a very generous player at that,playing Ad Nauseam Justin.
He was playing against Mardu Harbringer
Basically: Game 3, Match 2
Justin, Turn 19: Untap, Draw, pass.
Opponent, Turn 20: Untap, Dark Confidant trigger, (Chalice of the Void), draw. Chalice for 10.
Justin, turn 21: Untap, Draw, "F***.", Pass
Opponent, Turn 22: Untap, Bob trigger: Emrakul, The Aeons Torn, Draw. "Are you Kidding me?"
Justin, Turn 23: Untap, Draw; "Yeah I'm just gonna hardcast this and win, GG"
The guy scooped after the next match, he had to play Ad Nauseam again.
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Game 1 I beat him he is unable to stop my valakut hitting for 6.
Game 2 I mulligan for 6, I accidently draw 7 and keep the hand (I put in back on top and reshuffle deck), he treats FNM like competitive REL, then calls the judge to tell me mull to 5, I somehow lost this game due to keep drawing land.
Game 3, I Crumble to Dust his tech edge so it wont hit my valakut, he literally throw his hand to my playmat lol, I think I missed some Courser of Kruphix gain 1 life triggers, I said "oh by the way Kruphix gain 1 life trigger" he will say "too late you just missed".
Then there is also a time while I shuffle my deck, he ghost quarter my land, and he said "you can't search since you are already searching the deck".
After all I was at 9 life he can kill me next turn by hitting me with a pumped Resto angel (elspeth + ability) and Finks, but I topdeck a summoner pact to get Titan to do 12 damage to and kill him, then he said "just ****ing drop me" and then immediately leave the store.
EDH: Xenagos, God of Revels.
Off-topic - have enjoyed reading and am only up to page 26, but Jesus Christ, how averse to net-decking are people? Don't get me wrong; I know all too well that many MtG players are over-competitive in environments that don't call for it and can get out of hand, but when someone brings a netdeck to a competitive environment (and make no mistake, even a FNM is competitive when rating and prizes are on offer) they're often making a smart tactical decision. In many, and dare I say most sports and games in life, you don't get bonus points for creativity. An Olympic silver winning weightlifter doesn't suddenly get pushed up to gold because their training regime was a homebrew, while the gold medal winner used a tried and tested regime that had been circulating for many years.
Because I'm only on page 26 it's possible that in the 7 years since then (2010) players as a whole have adjusted their mentality, but I don't know what would've changed in the past 10 years to bring that about. It's just amazing to see how many people are treating a proper tactical move (online research) as though it's a weakness.
On-topic - about a month ago, I had been having some online casual games, when I started a 3 player casual multiplayer FFA EDH with two people I didn't know. One was perfectly pleasant, playing a fun - while also being half-decent - green white deck. The other was playing a pretty aggressive red black deck, which he later revealed was a suicidal deck; not designed to win a whole MP game but to take at least one player down on the way out.
Anyway, the RB player's attitude was just obnoxious. Unnecessarily aggressive including a lot of unnecessary swearing (like saying "%&!$ you" to either of us when we did something that hindered him), and *****ed and moaned about any and every card that was disadvantageous to him. When the GW player was so pleasant, it was a huge contrast to also be playing against someone that was basically sapping a lot of fun out of the game. It's the entire reason that I targeted him before the other guy, which of course only made things worse.
Unless there are young children in earshot, in which case everybody should watch their language by default, it's probably a good idea to establish your policy on profanity beforehand. Still, ending up in a game with poor sports is an unfortunately common side effect of sitting down with strangers.
4 of us are playing on my usual MTG program, allowing us to use whatever cards we want - though from my experience, most people on this program have some understanding of what a fair power level in the casual metagame of it is.
Load into a 2HG game, and me and the other spectator are just waiting for 2 people to finish a 1v1 (one playing a seemingly standard energy deck, the other playing the recent Tezzeret duel deck, as well as having no saved decks of their own - I suspected they were new, but as the last person to enter the room this wasn't confirmed for me until midway through the 2HG game).
Notice opponent in question going through some sideboard cards for one of their decks (this isn't so much a red flag; a lot of player on this prog don't have true sideboard, but keep potential swaps with their deck that they can change depending on how they're feeling), and see 4x Rest in Peace and 4x Leyline of the Void - with so much graveyard hate, abandon my original deck (a deck full of clones the gets most of its power from Reveillark + Body Double to make them a lot harder to keep down), and swap to a modern casual enchantment deck that basically doesn't use the graveyard. We get started.
Opposing players go first. Turn 1, opponent in question plays Thoughtseize. "That's a pretty hardcore card for casual", I'm thinking, but if it's the only powerful card we see, no worries. Turn 2 was something fairly innocent, if anything at all. Turn 3 - Liliana, the Last Hope, which ended up absorbing a fair chunk of damage from our evasive creatures. Turn 4 - Snapcaster Mage into Thoughtseize, into Thought Scour on himself, which ended up revealing a Tarmogoyf. By this point, I've all but had enough - we were winning so of course I kept playing, but I was feeling pretty salty. During their next turn when they went to Snapcaster a Serum Visions, I was trying to explain to my teammate the 'counter' interaction he had (Beckon Apparition on the Serum Visions), and that's when they revealed that they knew my teammate was very new, and that's why it was so tough to explain how it was going to interfere with their play. Then he tried to weasel out of the card choice! Essentially, how it had run down was this: he played Snapcaster Mage, and I told him to wait as he looked through his graveyard, as we had a potential response. I say "target", and he says "Serum Visions". Yes, I should have been clear and said that we're letting the spell resolve but responding to the triggered ability - but this is blooming casual plus having to teach a newer player how to respond to that triggered ability! When he started saying "in that case I'll target X instead", I was done with just putting up with it. I was just like "dude, you know exactly what I meant - don't do that when you're playing a deck like that in casual". He goes on to admit that his deck is pretty good in 1v1, but "this is 2v2 so it's not quite as strong, and so I think it's fair". Never mind that it's 1 (team) v 1 (team), with my team being handicapped by a pretty new player (I didn't mention this as I didn't want to be rude to my ally), and that the only reason his team lost is because his ally got land screwed on 2 after mulling to 6, and he had given my ally a pretty decent deck that was fortunately fairly straight forward.
Yes, we all have different definitions of what 'casual' in Magic means, but come on. If you're playing a competitive control deck in a casual format that isn't 3+ teams, that's pretty uncool. Don't try and play it off because there are technically 4 players through those 4 teams, and if you are going to take that angle at least have the balls to accept that you brought it out despite knowing that one of your opponents was a newbie. I have no problem with people who want to play competitively, of course - but if you know you're not in a session that's competitive, don't bring those decks, or at least ask permission if you think there's some mitigating circumstances like it being a 2v2.
-Always has an excuse why they lost (and it is never just "damn you played better than me"
-Critiques your deck the whole time, the plays you make, etc., as you are beating them/after you beat them
-Tries to tell you "Thats not the right choice to make in this situation" even when you are beating them/or after you beat them
One thing I have noticed about a lot of MTG players, especially net-deckers, is that they do not handle losing well. Furthermore, net-deckers get really salty when they get beat by some home-brew that is not on the Pro-Tour.
It was often extremely difficult to get the cards back from him at the end of any given hand. As annoying as the deck was, we eventually realized that the goal of the deck wasn't to win hands, but rather to actually steal cards. Eventually he was told he couldn't play that deck anymore, and after he was caught stealing even after the deck was banned, there was a physical altercation and he was cast out from the group forever more. What a dickbag.
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"What the hell did you think was going to happen playing magic that you might need a gun?"
What did those people in ::insert modern active shooter situation:: think was going to happen that they need a gun?
99.9999999% of the time you will never need it. But if that .000000001% chance happens, it will be the single most important moment of your life, and I don't know about you, but I don't like putting my fate in the hand of a crazy person with a gun. It is our job to protect ourselves, not anyone else's.
People always say "You dont need a gun, nothing is going to happen", but look at what is happening these days. It does and can happen, and you can either be prepared or you can just hope for the best.
I will concede that this part, "I just stretched so my 1911 printed quite obviously and said "I'm armed", was not the smart play. The whole idea behind concealed carry is that it is concealed, and you never, ever want to let anyone know you have a gun until you absolutely need to draw. Beyond being a tactical disadvantage, the other guy could have called the cops and say he threatened him.
On topic: There are a few people I hate winning against because they are sore losers. It actually takes the fun out of winning. I hate that. But those people are often poor winners too, they gloat and make sure to tell you everything wrong with your plays and your deck, but not in a useful or constructive manner.
A few months ago I tried out a new LGS after my old one shut down. Everything was going fine until my round three opponent, who turned out to be MODO incarnate, only working against you. At the beginning he brushed off my small talk to try and be friendly. Then he made sure I name all my phases, triggers, and whatnot. If I announce one thing wrong he would grill me for it. For example I was attacking with a Walking Ballista and he used Blessed Alliance on it, choosing for me to sac it. I tell him I sac in response to deal 2 damage to him, only for him to yell at me that I'm not allowed to do that because I didn't make it clear what I'm sacrificing it for and will proceed to sac to BA's effect, not Ballista's own. I really didn't care about the two damage anyways since he was playing a really bad Bant Turbofog deck and I was going to win regardless, which I do. During the winning turn I swing for game and ask him if he had another fog effect, and he angrily snide he doesn't. I asked if I won but he snides again that he says he doesn't have a fog effect, but he does have removal, and I should "read between the lines" as if his mind games have worked. I had to keep myself from laughing because even he though he kills one of my attackers, I still had lethal on board so it didn't matter either way.
Some others in the store tells me he's a level one judge and tries to play the rules lawyer against new players, but it never works against experienced ones because he's really a terrible player in general. One person said they had him join a group playing a friendly game of EDH at Denny's once. The douche had his lands all messed up and you couldn't tell what lands they were and if they were tapped or not. One opponent asked what lands were untapped. He replies he should look for himself. The opponent goes over to look at the lands only for the douche to scream at him that he never gave him permission to touch his cards.
But yeah, seems people just tolerate him because he's an easy win. I've never played at that store again.
Standard: BG Golgari Midrange
Modern: U Merfolk GWUBR 5 Color Humans UBW Esper Gifts GW Bogles
I sort of had this experience playing Double Moon Walkers against this guy in the first round of a Modern side event at a GP. He was playing Bant Eldrazi, which is actually a pretty favorable matchup for me. In the first game, I control the board pretty effectively with Planeswalkers and eventually land a Doubling Season, and the guys says something like, "I didn't realize we were playing EDH." There's probably a way to make that comment in good humor, but that's not how he seemed to mean it. I win next turn by playing and ulting Chandra, Torch of Defiance. In game two, he's pretty noticeably irritated. For the most part, he's not openly hostile towards me personally, but every play I make gets met with some snide comment. I get Doubling Season out pretty early and ult Nahiri, and attack him with Emrakul. He even had Eldrazi Displacer out, but was short one mana to tap down Emrakul. He sacks most of his board without saying a word and goes down to 3. Next turn, he is able to counterattack and put me to 4, but I play Xenagos the Reveler next turn and make two Satyrs for the win. He tells me Xenagos only makes one, but I remind him about Doubling Season. He slams the chair in when he leaves.
Really, that's your attitude going into the first round?
I wish the debate forum was still open...
I know I would get this, and perhaps I did not do the best job of wording this. Police are there to enforce laws. A byproduct of doing that is protecting people, I understand that. "Protect and Serve" and all that. So you are right, part of what police do is protecting you. But, you should not rely on that 100% because police are not going to be around you all the time. Besides, would you rather have your life in your own hands, or the hands of someone else? I am always going to want my fate in my own hands, not anyone else's.
But lets look at this practically....
We know there cannot be police posted everywhere 24/7.
Lets say you are at Church, Wal-Mart, the movies, or your LGS and some crazy guy comes in with a gun. If there is no police or armed guard there, what will you do? How quickly can the police respond? Will it be too late? When seconds count, the police are minutes away. Now if every place you go to has armed guards or police posted outside then you don't have to worry. But, that is rare.
So while police do help protect you, they aren't with you 24/7 everywhere you go. If you are ever in an active shooter situation, you can call the police, but they are going to take at least a couple minutes to get there. Even if it only takes the cops a minute to arrive, there is a lot that can happen in a minute and for many people it is too late. We see this time and time again on the news. The police around here do a great job, and there is a huge police presence. But, they aren't following everyone around everywhere they go. Also, if an active shooter is picking a target, they are going to look for a place where there will likely be no Police.
That is why I say it is our job to protect ourselves, because we are the only people who can protect ourselves 24/7, 365. Unless you can hire an armed guard to go with you everywhere, if you can, more power to you. But if I could afford that, I wouldn't be so against spending 40 bucks on a Chandra.
So it comes down to this: Who would you rather be in charge of your fate? Yourself, or someone else you don't even know. I choose me every time.This has nothing to do with not trusting police officers, and more to do with the fact that they cannot be around me every time, and they cannot magically appear when I need them. If there was a button you could press that makes a police officer instantly teleport to your location, this conversation would be pointless.
Anyways, just so I can stay on topic....Not really a rude story but this did annoy me.
Went to a friends house to meet some other friends and play Magic. We haven't seen each other in a while. We decided to play EDH. I will admit that my friends can be jerks, we have always been jerks to each other, and being offended only makes you more of a target. This is standard guy behavior in my experience, or maybe my friends are just jerks. We hung out for a whole weekend.
My one buddy, we will call him, Ed...I was the only person he targeted in EDH throughout the whole weekend. I was the only person he attacked, the only person's spells he countered, etc. The whole weekend...every game. It started to get on my nerves and I expressed that fact. So what does he do? Focuses on me harder. I will admit I was annoyed. Even if he had an open path to attack someone else with zero board state, he chose me. It was a very frustrating weekend for Magic. Many people would not last long in my circle of friends.
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