Do certain sleeves damage cards? Specifically, old sleeves and loose penny sleeves?
I sleeve my EDH and casual decks in old, worn Ultra Pro sleeves. Maybe they're a little stretched out from use and their backs have some creases in them. Might these sleeves actually cause wear to the cards, especially the foils?
A friend of mine has a deck from 1997 with 24 Revised dual lands. The duals are all "medium played" at best. He says they've always been in the same penny sleeves (though only used from 1997-1999, then 2009-2011). Could the loose fitting sleeves have allowed the cards to rub and get worn?
Maybe it really is worth it to use Perfect Fits or frequently purchase new sleeves. What do your experiences indicate? Thanks.
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Do certain sleeves damage cards? Specifically, old sleeves and loose penny sleeves?
I sleeve my EDH and casual decks in old, worn Ultra Pro sleeves. Maybe they're a little stretched out from use and their backs have some creases in them. Might these sleeves actually cause wear to the cards, especially the foils?
A friend of mine has a deck from 1997 with 24 Revised dual lands. The duals are all "medium played" at best. He says they've always been in the same penny sleeves (though only used from 1997-1999, then 2009-2011). Could the loose fitting sleeves have allowed the cards to rub and get worn?
Maybe it really is worth it to use Perfect Fits or frequently purchase new sleeves. What do your experiences indicate? Thanks.
Go with Dragon Shields. Toughest sleeves out there, they even allow you to do a hard shuffle. Your cards will stay safe.
I have cards that get little white spots on the black border at the top of the card after being in sleeves for a while. I'm not sure if that's due to wear or if dirt is getting trapped in there, but that's the only way I can think of sleeves hurting cards. Certainly buying new sleeves from time to time would stop this from happening too much.
Sleeves that are too wide and loose have a chance that the cards that supposedly were protected by it end up moving inside when shuffling and playing and rubbing against the interior of the sleeve, which coupled with dust in the long run end up damaging the surface of the card.
Sleeves that are too wide and loose have a chance that the cards that supposedly were protected by it end up moving inside when shuffling and playing and rubbing against the interior of the sleeve, which coupled with dust in the long run end up damaging the surface of the card.
Although, I must say, the cards would be far less damaged after years of playing/shuffling with dust in the sleeves then they would be if you had played with them unsleeved.
Basically, the answer is thus: if you have high value cards, then double sleeve with perfect fits (for all the cards in the deck, obviously). Otherwise, if you are using ~10 dollar cards, then they will still be ~10 regardless of sleeved/perfect sleeved condition.
If you have high value cards/decks, and you don't think its worth the extra three bucks to perfect fit/double sleeve the cards, then you will lose value. Most people who have high value cards/decks know this and follow this guideline.
I have cards that get little white spots on the black border at the top of the card after being in sleeves for a while. I'm not sure if that's due to wear or if dirt is getting trapped in there, but that's the only way I can think of sleeves hurting cards. Certainly buying new sleeves from time to time would stop this from happening too much.
Do you play in a smokey environment?
I get these too and I always figured it was a stray bit of ash or something.
They clean up just fine, usually. Don't let them sit that way for too long or it might chemically react w/the card and leave a permanent (but faded) white spot there.
This is actually one of the reasons I plan to double-sleeve some of my best decks. Completely seal it off from the outside world.
@OP: Yes, if they're not a tight fit, the cards inside will have room to wiggle. If they do this during shuffling, any bit of grit or dirt inside the sleeve will rub against the foil and scuff it. Takes a lot longer to happen then unsleeved, but yeah, over time it'll happen.
What I found is the sleeves damage the cards when initially putting card in the plastics like the corners and edges. The plastics when knew are razor sharp like n will cut the cards edges and nik the corners n some wonder why grading goes bad. I think the sleeves need to be revamped at the top n a tad wider at top for entry. Next time you load one, check it out!!
I sleeve my EDH and casual decks in old, worn Ultra Pro sleeves. Maybe they're a little stretched out from use and their backs have some creases in them. Might these sleeves actually cause wear to the cards, especially the foils?
A friend of mine has a deck from 1997 with 24 Revised dual lands. The duals are all "medium played" at best. He says they've always been in the same penny sleeves (though only used from 1997-1999, then 2009-2011). Could the loose fitting sleeves have allowed the cards to rub and get worn?
Maybe it really is worth it to use Perfect Fits or frequently purchase new sleeves. What do your experiences indicate? Thanks.
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Go with Dragon Shields. Toughest sleeves out there, they even allow you to do a hard shuffle. Your cards will stay safe.
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Although, I must say, the cards would be far less damaged after years of playing/shuffling with dust in the sleeves then they would be if you had played with them unsleeved.
Basically, the answer is thus: if you have high value cards, then double sleeve with perfect fits (for all the cards in the deck, obviously). Otherwise, if you are using ~10 dollar cards, then they will still be ~10 regardless of sleeved/perfect sleeved condition.
If you have high value cards/decks, and you don't think its worth the extra three bucks to perfect fit/double sleeve the cards, then you will lose value. Most people who have high value cards/decks know this and follow this guideline.
Do you play in a smokey environment?
I get these too and I always figured it was a stray bit of ash or something.
They clean up just fine, usually. Don't let them sit that way for too long or it might chemically react w/the card and leave a permanent (but faded) white spot there.
This is actually one of the reasons I plan to double-sleeve some of my best decks. Completely seal it off from the outside world.
@OP: Yes, if they're not a tight fit, the cards inside will have room to wiggle. If they do this during shuffling, any bit of grit or dirt inside the sleeve will rub against the foil and scuff it. Takes a lot longer to happen then unsleeved, but yeah, over time it'll happen.
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