So everyone is a buzz about the bannings and frankly I couldn’t be happier. Yet I have this feeling that I got kind of ripped of by WoTC. I bought two copies of the event deck just so I could get my hands on 4 Stoneforge Mystics. Then two weeks later they essentially take them from me (I only play type 2). Now I’m not super angry about this and honestly if someone had said that if I paid them $60 they would ban Jace TMS and Stoneforge I would of paid them in two seconds and thrown in a tip to boot.
I know that it is not super relevant but this banning kind of feels like when the PSN went down for a month. That wasn’t even Sonys fault but they couldn’t stop apologizing for it and when it did come back we got a bunch of free games. All in all after the PSN went back up I personally (not saying you did) felt better about the situation.
So here is my dilemma. WoTC has said that it is fully there fault that the Meta became so warped and said that they where sad to ban these cards. They also said it was a tough choice because the event deck had just come out. I can get that this was tough for them but here is a company that essentially just took $49 from me ($13 per Mystic) and I just don’t feel like we are even. I guess I am upset that I feel many of us where dooped on the event deck. I know they said that they didn’t know that they where going to ban the cards until a few days before the announcement but they had to have some idea. So here they are shipping a product that they probably knew was going to be worthless in 2 weeks.
It just seems weird that Sony can apologize for something that they didn’t do and give us a bunch of free games for it, but Wizards is apologizing for something they say is there fault but is doing nothing to win back those hurt by it.
Any ideas on what wizards could do to make you feel batter about getting screwed on the event deck?
Maybe release some kind of great promo for anyone that plays the War of Attrition event deck in an FNM. You don’t have to win you just have to play the complete deck and have it in its original box. It would be nice if this promo was actually useful like a promo Elspeth with really nice art or an amazing full art Puresteel Paladin. Something that you could slip into your event deck in place of the Mystics.
You can hold on to them. While their price has dropped now that people are in panic mode, they still see play in extended and legacy. Keep them extended season rolls around, and you will likely be able to get your $13 back.
I understand that you may play Standard only, but that is not the case for other players. SfM is a very powerful card in Extended and Legacy as well, as well as Modern if that format is in fact created. Because of that while the price will drop due to the ban, in the long run they will still regain a lot of the value that they lost due to being banned. Hold onto them until that happens. If you were expecting to play with them you wouldn't have traded them until right before or after they rotated anyway and lost just as much value. While it sucks you don't get to play with them, as you said, the greater benefit of them being banned for everyone who plays Standard makes it worth it.
I get what you guys are saying about them being playable in other formats, but the whole selling angle of the event deck is the Standard format. That would be like if they banned one of the top dollar cards in the Commander decks they just released but only banned it in Commander. Yea it might be playable elsewhere but it was sold in a product made for a particular format and two weeks after it comes out it cant be used in that format.
Yeah, I feel like you guys miss the op's point. He just feels a bit cheated, regardless of the money. He wanted to use SfMs, paid for them, and now he can't.
It would be cool for Wizards to do something, but it's hard. A lot of people are probably less reasonable than the op and pissed. Like those people who's eBay auctions ended at 11:59 EST. Rewarding just one segment of the people affected would be hard. With the PSN, it was easy to distribute games to everyone, but it is harder with Magic. Maybe something like additional FNM promos or something. It kind of sucks they don't have that program where they mailed DCI members cards anymore, that would have been a good avenue too.
Anyway, I think the op has a right to feel a bit cheated, and it would be cool is WotC did something. It would hard to appear fair though. If I were the op and I really felt that way, I would call WotC or write a letter. I bet they would send you something.
Yeah, it is frustrating for the people who bought the event decks, but at the same time, WotC did make the unique exception that Stoneforges aren't banned if you play the exact deck list. They are getting by on a technicality, but in all honesty, it was probably the best decision overall.
Do I think people who bought the Event deck deserve anything extra? Not really. You still got 73 other playable cards in the deck. Mystic is still worth something in other formats, and WotC doesn't guarantee the value of any product they sell anyway (although it would be cool if they could).
they could do what they did with the academy bannings and let you send them in for a pack, the card will probably wind up pretty high due to the fact his power level is around tarmagoyf's, so 5 years from now you may full well be looking at $30 mystics. Even if they offer to let you do what they used to it's still a god awful deal, just hold them, they'll rise in time.
Wizards never intends to sell multiple copies of high value standard cards. The price of Stoneforge now is about the same as what it was when the deck was sent off to be printed, so they don't really have much to apologize for (except Stoneforge being broken that is).
1. Event decks are not designed for already established players to buy for singles. They are designed as solid starting bases for tournament play. You are complaining about what is more or less an unintended use of the product. For those looking to get in, the product is still almost 100% functional.
2. If you didn't already see the writing on the wall as of the Event deck release date, it seems like you were not paying proper attention to the format. Both the results of every SCG event and the GP showed Caw-blade at levels equally or more dominant than the last deck that had been banned in Standard, PTQ attendance based on publically available numbers was way down, etc. I can understand being surprised by Jace going, but Stoneforge was a given.
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To the OP, A), sorry you feel cheated but its not like SFM is suddenly unusable. You can play the event deck as is out of the box use them in casual type 2 not following the official br list edh,legcy etc. Or hold on to them and be happy you have 4 of a powerful card that after the crash will only go up in value.
B) No wizards doesn't owe you or anyone else who bought the deck a damn thing.
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I know they said that they didn’t know that they where going to ban the cards until a few days before the announcement but they had to have some idea. So here they are shipping a product that they probably knew was going to be worthless in 2 weeks.
They designed and printed the event decks long before New Phyrexia was even released and they thought/hoped New Phyrexia was going fix the problem with standard (JtMS), instead it just broke things more.
as it stands, you are still able to use the event deck exactly as it was intended.
the product itself is unaffected by the bannings (you can still legally use stoneforge mystic in the event deck if the decklist is exactly correct).
in that regard, you are actually getting a kind of bonus, rather than being duped or swindled.
remember that the event deck is a specific kind of product, not intended to be used like an overgrown booster-pack. the product's purpose is still there, intact.
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Tis the nature of the game we play. People RAN out in droves to "get a deal" on these cards. They still technically did, even if they bought the decks at a raised price ($35-40). It'd be like someone saying "I'll trade you my playset of Stoneforge for $20 each, and here is a bunch of other PLAYABLE cards with it... including some REALLY solid ones that are likely to go up after rotation.
So no, I don't feel bad for people who bought these. Stoneforge is a good card, always WAS a good card, and is highly played in other formats. We all knew there was a possibility that these things could have been banned... and people who used these Event Decks as an excuse that they wouldn't were blind to the fact that these dcks were created and printed MONTHS ago. All it took was some research and something as simple as being subscribed to R&D Twitter accounts to know this.
This is why WotC doesn't touch the secondary market. To them, the production cost of a stoneforge is exactly the same as a goliath sphinx. You're the one who decided to purchase a 30 dollar deck just for the stoneforge mystics.
I know WotC did a deal when memory jar was banned where you could send them a memory jar, and they would send you a free booster pack. I'm pretty sure they're not offering this with JTMS/Stoneforge because it would look callous and silly, given the value of JTMS and the multi-format playability of stoneforge.
You're kind of up a creek, but just take solice in the fact that WotC has gotten this down to a once-in-five-years occurrence.
I will say, this is nothing like PSN. If you think your personal and financial information being compromised is similar to a game's rules changing slightly, you need to learn to value your information higher. "A ton of free games," does not make up for a security breach and stolen personal data.
Mystic will never be Tarmo prices since it requires the equipment to be relevant. The equipment, like Sword of Fire and Ice and Jitte will also be the expensive part.
Stoneforge is an enabler, one that has been reprinted in a pre-co deck. I think Stoneforge in Legacy/Modern will sit at $5. He's good, but requires a more expensive object to combine with. In combo decks, the expensive card is either the enabler or the kill. In TEPS, the enabler, that is, the LED, is the expensive part, and Tendrils is like $2. For SFM, the expensive part is the sword, not the tutor.
There are other formats than just standard, and SFM/Jace see play in most of them. Yes, it's annoying to waste your hard-earned money, but you could have seen the writing on the wall and delayed buying the event decks until after the B&R announcement.
I feel like OP is missing the fact that WotC presented him an opportunity to get two copies of a hot card (plus 73 "extra" cards) at a considerable bargain at the time. One can probably apply the same inability to predict the value/power to this situation; but before you go and whine about being ripped off, remember that you saved at least as much as you "lost" (remember, the Mystics weren't ripped apart by the ban) just because WotC threw them at you so affordably.
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Stoneforge Mystic is still a rock star in Legacy and Extended, so you can either start to play those formats, or you can trade the SFMs to players of those formats once the value increases, as has been stated before.
If you have Caw Blade, then you have a great majority of what you need to play Legacy. Sure, you will still need to pick up Forces and Dual Lands, but you've got a solid starting point to a very potent deck. Give the format a try, you'd probably like it, and once you have the force of wills, you never need to buy or trade for them again.
You bought event decks to get SFM's cheaper than they were being sold as singles. You hoped to make a financial gain by buying them. Yet you feel cheated by WoTC because you couldn't buy a product for $X and get more than $X in cards in them?
You still have the prduct you paid for, and it is still legal in every format it was legal in when you bought it.
Markets fluctuate, especially in rapidly shifting TCG formats. When Survival of the Fittest got banned in Legacy, it dropped from $50 to $20. The price drop for SFM, by contrast, is very tame.
Data from finished eBay auctions:
On June 16, before Forsythe's ominous tweet, nonfoil copies of SFM sold for a smidge over $12 on average.
Auctions finished yesterday and today average out at around $7.50.
Now it's still early, so prices may drop another dollar or two, but if you bought the event deck for value then you definitely haven't lost all of it. A "loss" of about $20 isn't bad at all, considering Puresteel Paladin, Mirran Crusader and Kemba, Kha Regent are all featured in one of the best decks in Scars block constructed.
Speaking of Puresteel, the card is clearly pretty good, so if you bought a bunch of equipment for SFM, odds are you'll be able to play it alongside the Paladin to good effect. It's not like the format is suddenly devoid of cards that interact with equipment.
I bought War of Attrition to complete my SFM playset as well. The difference? I knew going into it that there was a 95% certainty that SFM was getting banned. I sold the excess one I had for a song last Saturday. Felt good.
1. Wizzards has dates where they release the ban list, so this was the last date for them to ban it, which, after the last few month of tournament results, was something they wanted to do
I think that is actually what some of us have concern with. Wizards knew the date any banned/restricted updates would be announced. Why release these decks right before that date if there was any possibility at all one or more of the cards included could be banned?
Now that I'm thinking about this more - The Event Decks were released on the 10th. The Commander Decks were released on the 17th. Why didn't they just swap the release dates? Or, even better, swap the dates and then delay the Event Decks by one business day. That way the decks would have been released after the bannings were announced.
It seems as though they had a simple way to resolve, or at least minimize, the whole issue. Although from responses in the other thread about this issue it would seem I am in the minority in thinking they could have handled the situation better.
I get what you guys are saying about them being playable in other formats, but the whole selling angle of the event deck is the Standard format. That would be like if they banned one of the top dollar cards in the Commander decks they just released but only banned it in Commander. Yea it might be playable elsewhere but it was sold in a product made for a particular format and two weeks after it comes out it cant be used in that format.
The only problem with this comparison is wizards doesn't control the Commander Banned List (with the exception of the MODO Commander Banned List which is usually modded specifically to match the Paper one anyways). Thus even if a card from the new commander preconstructed decks were to be banned in the more main stream commander format it wouldn't be Wizards of the Coasts fault, it would be the decision of the Commander Rules Committee which does not answer to Wizards of the Coast directly (with the exception of perhaps Sheldon, then again he only answers to them when he is acting in the capacity of his occupation as a level 5 Judge for the DCI, but certainly not when he is acting on behalf of the Commander Rules Committee).
I now have 1 weekend to use her (still trying to finalise a decklist), and then she will be relegated to Extended (which we play at my FLGS about twice a year) and casual (and casually using a card too powerful for tournaments seems like a contradiction...).
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Tim, Have you considered using Stoneforge Mystic in an Elder Dragon Highlander Deck, or rather in a Commander Deck as it must now be called. While technically speaking Commander is supposed to be a casual format, it is also a singleton format. As such trying to fit a singleton of Stoneforge Mystic into any deck with white in it is not only a good idea, it is almost paramount, due to the fact that you can never have too many tutors and that outside of black, there are actually very few ways of tutoring for equipment and artifacts in general (white actually I believe has a monopoly on this aside from the single card Gamble in red and all of black's tutors that don't specifically tutor for one thing or another). As such I think Stoneforge Mystic is a very good fit for that aspect of the Casual Formats.
Additionally there is the fact that in a Cube, Stoneforge Mystic can be a powerful card, but not nearly as powerful as some of the cards that are sometimes played in Cubes (I have seen fully powered cubes, as in the Power 9). And still cubes are often considered strictly casual in terms of where they fall in the spectrum of casual vs. competitive. So there is the possibility of building a drafting cube with the stoneforge mystic in it as well.
Additionally I don't know if anyone in your area plays Legacy, but have you considered trying to find a place for Stoneforge Mystic in a legacy deck? I hear she is quite a powerful and popular card in that format.
Just some possibilities on ways to use stoneforge mystic that do not rely on Extended, Standard, or the strictly competitive nature of this game.
This is why WotC doesn't touch the secondary market.
This is a fallacious Argument. If it were not for Wizards of the Coast creating the game, and indeed if it weren't for the banned and restricted list and reserved list there would be no secondary market. As such Wizards of the Coast, the company that makes and regulates the rules of this game, has every right to meddle in the affairs of the secondary market as much as the please. They CREATED the secondary market. I have no doubt WotC knew that by banning Jace as well as Stoneforge there would be economic problems for many people when it comes to this game. They did it anyways. That is an example of them controlling the secondary market via bannings. Similarly when they stated that they were strengthening the reserved list a notable increase in the prices of numerous reserved cards occurred. This was another example of them controlling the secondary market. Star City Games doesn't control the secondary market as much as people like to think. It's WotC that holds the ultimate power in the secondary market.
EDIT: it needs to be said with regard to the event deck. From my reading of Aaron Forsythe's explanation of the banning, it seems that you cannot simply walk into an FNM or other Standard Tournament with deck consisting of cards that you claim are the event deck. Rather you have to, on site and I would assume that it has to be in front of one of the tournament officials, purchase the event deck unopened and play it fresh from the pack sight unseen. In otherwords you have to play with an unopened and unaltered event deck instead of bringing your own copy of the event deck. This is not nearly what people seem to be assuming based on what was said previously in this thread.
Personally I have no sympathy for anyone who bought the event decks "just to get the mystics".
The decks were designed with newcomers to FNM in mind, not for people who already play and simply want to take another deck to the next level by stripping bits from the event deck. If you bought the deck with this in mind then you did so for the wrong reason.
You haven't infact "lost money", you still got the product you bought right? And you can still you it for what it was designed. If you bought the decks for >RRP due to the fact they had SFM in then that is also your fault, Wizards have no control over this.
How do you know what the whole intent on the event decks where for? To say Wizards was not marketing to people who was just going to open them up for the SFM is really really narrow minded.
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So everyone is a buzz about the bannings and frankly I couldn’t be happier. Yet I have this feeling that I got kind of ripped of by WoTC. I bought two copies of the event deck just so I could get my hands on 4 Stoneforge Mystics. Then two weeks later they essentially take them from me (I only play type 2). Now I’m not super angry about this and honestly if someone had said that if I paid them $60 they would ban Jace TMS and Stoneforge I would of paid them in two seconds and thrown in a tip to boot.
I know that it is not super relevant but this banning kind of feels like when the PSN went down for a month. That wasn’t even Sonys fault but they couldn’t stop apologizing for it and when it did come back we got a bunch of free games. All in all after the PSN went back up I personally (not saying you did) felt better about the situation.
So here is my dilemma. WoTC has said that it is fully there fault that the Meta became so warped and said that they where sad to ban these cards. They also said it was a tough choice because the event deck had just come out. I can get that this was tough for them but here is a company that essentially just took $49 from me ($13 per Mystic) and I just don’t feel like we are even. I guess I am upset that I feel many of us where dooped on the event deck. I know they said that they didn’t know that they where going to ban the cards until a few days before the announcement but they had to have some idea. So here they are shipping a product that they probably knew was going to be worthless in 2 weeks.
It just seems weird that Sony can apologize for something that they didn’t do and give us a bunch of free games for it, but Wizards is apologizing for something they say is there fault but is doing nothing to win back those hurt by it.
Any ideas on what wizards could do to make you feel batter about getting screwed on the event deck?
Maybe release some kind of great promo for anyone that plays the War of Attrition event deck in an FNM. You don’t have to win you just have to play the complete deck and have it in its original box. It would be nice if this promo was actually useful like a promo Elspeth with really nice art or an amazing full art Puresteel Paladin. Something that you could slip into your event deck in place of the Mystics.
It would be cool for Wizards to do something, but it's hard. A lot of people are probably less reasonable than the op and pissed. Like those people who's eBay auctions ended at 11:59 EST. Rewarding just one segment of the people affected would be hard. With the PSN, it was easy to distribute games to everyone, but it is harder with Magic. Maybe something like additional FNM promos or something. It kind of sucks they don't have that program where they mailed DCI members cards anymore, that would have been a good avenue too.
Anyway, I think the op has a right to feel a bit cheated, and it would be cool is WotC did something. It would hard to appear fair though. If I were the op and I really felt that way, I would call WotC or write a letter. I bet they would send you something.
Agree with Big Jim. Complaining to the company is generally more productive than complaining to the community
Do I think people who bought the Event deck deserve anything extra? Not really. You still got 73 other playable cards in the deck. Mystic is still worth something in other formats, and WotC doesn't guarantee the value of any product they sell anyway (although it would be cool if they could).
1. Event decks are not designed for already established players to buy for singles. They are designed as solid starting bases for tournament play. You are complaining about what is more or less an unintended use of the product. For those looking to get in, the product is still almost 100% functional.
2. If you didn't already see the writing on the wall as of the Event deck release date, it seems like you were not paying proper attention to the format. Both the results of every SCG event and the GP showed Caw-blade at levels equally or more dominant than the last deck that had been banned in Standard, PTQ attendance based on publically available numbers was way down, etc. I can understand being surprised by Jace going, but Stoneforge was a given.
B) No wizards doesn't owe you or anyone else who bought the deck a damn thing.
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They designed and printed the event decks long before New Phyrexia was even released and they thought/hoped New Phyrexia was going fix the problem with standard (JtMS), instead it just broke things more.
Also:
*duped
the product itself is unaffected by the bannings (you can still legally use stoneforge mystic in the event deck if the decklist is exactly correct).
in that regard, you are actually getting a kind of bonus, rather than being duped or swindled.
remember that the event deck is a specific kind of product, not intended to be used like an overgrown booster-pack. the product's purpose is still there, intact.
So no, I don't feel bad for people who bought these. Stoneforge is a good card, always WAS a good card, and is highly played in other formats. We all knew there was a possibility that these things could have been banned... and people who used these Event Decks as an excuse that they wouldn't were blind to the fact that these dcks were created and printed MONTHS ago. All it took was some research and something as simple as being subscribed to R&D Twitter accounts to know this.
I know WotC did a deal when memory jar was banned where you could send them a memory jar, and they would send you a free booster pack. I'm pretty sure they're not offering this with JTMS/Stoneforge because it would look callous and silly, given the value of JTMS and the multi-format playability of stoneforge.
You're kind of up a creek, but just take solice in the fact that WotC has gotten this down to a once-in-five-years occurrence.
I will say, this is nothing like PSN. If you think your personal and financial information being compromised is similar to a game's rules changing slightly, you need to learn to value your information higher. "A ton of free games," does not make up for a security breach and stolen personal data.
Stoneforge is an enabler, one that has been reprinted in a pre-co deck. I think Stoneforge in Legacy/Modern will sit at $5. He's good, but requires a more expensive object to combine with. In combo decks, the expensive card is either the enabler or the kill. In TEPS, the enabler, that is, the LED, is the expensive part, and Tendrils is like $2. For SFM, the expensive part is the sword, not the tutor.
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If you have Caw Blade, then you have a great majority of what you need to play Legacy. Sure, you will still need to pick up Forces and Dual Lands, but you've got a solid starting point to a very potent deck. Give the format a try, you'd probably like it, and once you have the force of wills, you never need to buy or trade for them again.
You bought event decks to get SFM's cheaper than they were being sold as singles. You hoped to make a financial gain by buying them. Yet you feel cheated by WoTC because you couldn't buy a product for $X and get more than $X in cards in them?
You still have the prduct you paid for, and it is still legal in every format it was legal in when you bought it.
Data from finished eBay auctions:
On June 16, before Forsythe's ominous tweet, nonfoil copies of SFM sold for a smidge over $12 on average.
Auctions finished yesterday and today average out at around $7.50.
Now it's still early, so prices may drop another dollar or two, but if you bought the event deck for value then you definitely haven't lost all of it. A "loss" of about $20 isn't bad at all, considering Puresteel Paladin, Mirran Crusader and Kemba, Kha Regent are all featured in one of the best decks in Scars block constructed.
Speaking of Puresteel, the card is clearly pretty good, so if you bought a bunch of equipment for SFM, odds are you'll be able to play it alongside the Paladin to good effect. It's not like the format is suddenly devoid of cards that interact with equipment.
I think that is actually what some of us have concern with. Wizards knew the date any banned/restricted updates would be announced. Why release these decks right before that date if there was any possibility at all one or more of the cards included could be banned?
Now that I'm thinking about this more - The Event Decks were released on the 10th. The Commander Decks were released on the 17th. Why didn't they just swap the release dates? Or, even better, swap the dates and then delay the Event Decks by one business day. That way the decks would have been released after the bannings were announced.
It seems as though they had a simple way to resolve, or at least minimize, the whole issue. Although from responses in the other thread about this issue it would seem I am in the minority in thinking they could have handled the situation better.
The only problem with this comparison is wizards doesn't control the Commander Banned List (with the exception of the MODO Commander Banned List which is usually modded specifically to match the Paper one anyways). Thus even if a card from the new commander preconstructed decks were to be banned in the more main stream commander format it wouldn't be Wizards of the Coasts fault, it would be the decision of the Commander Rules Committee which does not answer to Wizards of the Coast directly (with the exception of perhaps Sheldon, then again he only answers to them when he is acting in the capacity of his occupation as a level 5 Judge for the DCI, but certainly not when he is acting on behalf of the Commander Rules Committee).
Tim, Have you considered using Stoneforge Mystic in an Elder Dragon Highlander Deck, or rather in a Commander Deck as it must now be called. While technically speaking Commander is supposed to be a casual format, it is also a singleton format. As such trying to fit a singleton of Stoneforge Mystic into any deck with white in it is not only a good idea, it is almost paramount, due to the fact that you can never have too many tutors and that outside of black, there are actually very few ways of tutoring for equipment and artifacts in general (white actually I believe has a monopoly on this aside from the single card Gamble in red and all of black's tutors that don't specifically tutor for one thing or another). As such I think Stoneforge Mystic is a very good fit for that aspect of the Casual Formats.
Additionally there is the fact that in a Cube, Stoneforge Mystic can be a powerful card, but not nearly as powerful as some of the cards that are sometimes played in Cubes (I have seen fully powered cubes, as in the Power 9). And still cubes are often considered strictly casual in terms of where they fall in the spectrum of casual vs. competitive. So there is the possibility of building a drafting cube with the stoneforge mystic in it as well.
Additionally I don't know if anyone in your area plays Legacy, but have you considered trying to find a place for Stoneforge Mystic in a legacy deck? I hear she is quite a powerful and popular card in that format.
Just some possibilities on ways to use stoneforge mystic that do not rely on Extended, Standard, or the strictly competitive nature of this game.
This is a fallacious Argument. If it were not for Wizards of the Coast creating the game, and indeed if it weren't for the banned and restricted list and reserved list there would be no secondary market. As such Wizards of the Coast, the company that makes and regulates the rules of this game, has every right to meddle in the affairs of the secondary market as much as the please. They CREATED the secondary market. I have no doubt WotC knew that by banning Jace as well as Stoneforge there would be economic problems for many people when it comes to this game. They did it anyways. That is an example of them controlling the secondary market via bannings. Similarly when they stated that they were strengthening the reserved list a notable increase in the prices of numerous reserved cards occurred. This was another example of them controlling the secondary market. Star City Games doesn't control the secondary market as much as people like to think. It's WotC that holds the ultimate power in the secondary market.
EDIT: it needs to be said with regard to the event deck. From my reading of Aaron Forsythe's explanation of the banning, it seems that you cannot simply walk into an FNM or other Standard Tournament with deck consisting of cards that you claim are the event deck. Rather you have to, on site and I would assume that it has to be in front of one of the tournament officials, purchase the event deck unopened and play it fresh from the pack sight unseen. In otherwords you have to play with an unopened and unaltered event deck instead of bringing your own copy of the event deck. This is not nearly what people seem to be assuming based on what was said previously in this thread.
How do you know what the whole intent on the event decks where for? To say Wizards was not marketing to people who was just going to open them up for the SFM is really really narrow minded.