What set was the first foil printed in?

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    This is a question I've asked my whole shop but no one seems to know.
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    Urza's Legacy, the second set of the Artifacts Cycle. Sixth Ed came out shortly after it but the Core Set wasn't foiled until 7th Ed. Some promos had already been made in foil, including Urza's Saga's prerelease card.
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    And the first widely available foil ever was the prerelease promo (Lightning Dragon) for the set before that, Urza's Saga.
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    Does anyone who played back then remember how foils were received?
    Were they heralded as the end of Magic?!
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    literally every change was heralded as the end of magic. People complained about the colored set icons that denote rarity, for ☺☺☺☺'s sake.

    Literally every change has been heralded as the end of magic by a group of people, because magic players are scared of change(lings).
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    literally every change was heralded as the end of magic. People complained about the colored set icons that denote rarity, for ☺☺☺☺'s sake.

    Literally every change has been heralded as the end of magic by a group of people, because magic players are scared of change(lings).
    Pretty much how I remember it. People thought it was a stupid gimmick to try and make Wizards more money.
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    Does anyone who played back then remember how foils were received?
    Were they heralded as the end of Magic?!


    Regular players were largely indifferent, or considered them better trade bait.

    Collectors were up in arms because it increased the difficulty in completing a set by a huge factor.

    Most people were indifferent though.

    I used to be able to buy foils of any rarity for a buck at my shop, thats how little people cared.
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    Most people remember foil prices being ridiculously expensive. Crappy commons could get more than five dollars. Crappy rares could get more than twenty. Hot rares like Ring of Gix and Second Chance threatened to break into three figures. Fortunately, people realised how crap those particular cards actually were after a month or two. Good hot cards like Goblin Welder and Deranged Hermit floated around the $50 level. Their regular prices were around a tenner. You won't see a 500% markup these days. Even foil Jace TMS can't double his price.
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    Pretty much how I remember it. People thought it was a stupid gimmick to try and make Wizards more money.


    Which along with mythic totally is. Which is fine, its why we have a secondary market.

    Also, there were foil thran quarry's as well.

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    Quote from Dunjohn
    Most people remember foil prices being ridiculously expensive. Crappy commons could get more than five dollars. Crappy rares could get more than twenty. Hot rares like Ring of Gix and Second Chance threatened to break into three figures. Fortunately, people realised how crap those particular cards actually were after a month or two. Good hot cards like Goblin Welder and Deranged Hermit floated around the $50 level. Their regular prices were around a tenner. You won't see a 500% markup these days. Even foil Jace TMS can't double his price.

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    I meant to say not counting commons, sorry. The one I'd been thinking of was Dark Ritual. Foil versions of cards that are already valuable aren't exponentially more valuable.
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    literally every change was heralded as the end of magic. People complained about the colored set icons that denote rarity, for ☺☺☺☺'s sake.

    Literally every change has been heralded as the end of magic by a group of people, because magic players are scared of change(lings).


    Color coded rarity symbols are nothing, I remember people complaining about the set numbers on the bottom of cards being added. Isn't it great to watch people endlessly complain about nothing sometimes?
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    Color coded rarity symbols are nothing, I remember people complaining about the set numbers on the bottom of cards being added. Isn't it great to watch people endlessly complain about nothing sometimes?


    indeed. to quote a great and wise bearded man:

    ''Wizards could print 100$ bills in booster packs and people would complain about how they're folded''

    on a side note, I was asking myself this very quetion today. i'm in the process of foiling out my cube and wanted to know at what edition they started. thanks, I guess.
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    I'm sure the people who complain about rarity colors were those so used to discovering them on their own and those who enjoyed the mystery surrounding the cards. Might also have been the people who would rip off the ignorant because they could trade off an uncommon against a rare. After all, given how frequently some uncommons show up in packs.

    As for foils, i'm sure they were as useless then as now. Some are cool, but for decks i will always take the non-foil, unless there was some way to build a deck with all foils and not have the price through the roof. I used to think it would be cool to have foil out full art basic lands for my mana base, but then i realized how easy they are to stack that it would be bad for tournament play. I only run a foil if necessary, and almost always will trade a foil version of a card for a non-foil version + something else. All the foil commons/uncommons i pull end up in a box, and foil rares into the binder.
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    This is actually something that upsets me greatly, that they started foiling in the middle of the block. I played magic back then and a few years ago started to collect Angels. I already had a foil Voice of Truth and Voice of Duty so I figured that at least for the "Voice" cycle I would get foil versions.

    Yeah...turns out Voice of Grace and Voice of Law don't have foil versions...major bummer.
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    Quote from Dunjohn
    I meant to say not counting commons, sorry. The one I'd been thinking of was Dark Ritual. Foil versions of cards that are already valuable aren't exponentially more valuable.

    That rule has seemed to hold true in most cases. Old foreign foils have been the largest exception in my experience- go bid on a foily Japanese Goblin Welder, try offering twice the usual price, and see how far that gets you.
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