Here is the story. One of my really good friends and I thought a really fun way for me to get back into MTG would be for us to get 1 pack from each set and then open them. Before I go any further I know buying singles is smarter and a better investment in the long run, but I just wanted to have fun. It seemed like a really fun idea and since I had the money at the time I had no prob fronting it to buy the packs with him paying me back a couple weeks later for half of it when he got paid. I ended up buying one of each minus, Alpha, Beta, Unlimited and Summer Magic, as they were too expensive for me. The problem now is he decided that he doesn't want to split the packs anymore and suggested instead that I open them myself and maybe we could trade afterwards. I know I seem like a fool now for doing what I did. I need some advice on what to do. Should I open then and take a risk. Should I try to sell them all at once and probably take a loss that way too, or is there a better solution besides don't front money for packs. I'm looking for serious advice please and not "you're a stupid noob, get better friends." What would you do if you were me?
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That IS really cool. If your friend doesn't want it, I guess you can also try to sell it back, if you're not feeling lucky. Though that would be a tonne of fun for a random draft
Framing them isnt a bad idea actually. Getting the other packs would cost too much more for me. I dont have the 5k id need to get the last 4 packs. I paid a fair amount for all of them I'm not sure if the exact amount.
might need to make a custom frame or maybe more of a shadowbox, or have one made, or something, though. I mean thats not precisely a normal sorta thing.
maybe for framing, you could get just the wrappers for those last few, in good condition, and dress them up for the asthetics? I mean it wouldn't be as good in a collecting sense, but it'd be more complete for the look.
though, if you wanted to do that, you could just use ALL empty wrappers.
I know I wouldn't have the gambling stomach to actually open a collection like that.
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Why didn't you just wait until your friend got paid, and THEN bought the packs?
Anyway, at this point, you can either sell them for a definite loss, or open them and hope for a money card you can sell to recoup the cost, but risk opening junk and having a total loss. I don't know how much you need the $$.
I'd try and set up a draft or two with those, and redraft all the rares at the end. Maybe have some discretion on replacing crappy rares with a great uncommon, like if some one opened a Force of Will or something.
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That was pretty interesting. But dropping a warship on me is cheating. Take it back!
My buddy got a bunch of small picture frames and put 1 of every pack (minus the ones you mentioned) into them. Hung them on the wall, they look great. Another vote for framing, because that picture is mighty cool.
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Back in my day, Wrath of God didn't kill Black Knight and that's the way we liked it. We also had to pay mana for our 1/1s. Kids and your Memnites. Get off my lawn!
Anyway, at this point, you can either sell them for a definite loss
He could probably sell them for a profit on eBay if he just waits a few years and sells the packs collectively. I mean, that they are all collected together raises its value; the total is greater than the sum of its parts.
This is so amazingly cool, the array of packs in that pic. Thumbs up!
I actually did a similar thing with wrappers. I kept a wrapper of every set since I started (around 4th, I think) and framed the first bunch up to Scourge or so... I need two more frames to bring it up to current day though...
If anybody is really interested, I could show a pic.
If anybody is really, really interested in doing this, I probably have extra wrappers that I would trade for probably some commons or such.
You could ebay them as a set (or sit on them a few years before doing so). I think you could easily break even or profit. As others have said, you could also frame them. Cracking them could prove to be very disappointing. Since they're packs from different sets, you only have one chance to land the great rares from each. Maybe ask your friend to reconsider paying for half of them? That's not cool of him to leave you with everything. Keep bugging him.
So...how much did you spend? I'd want to do something like this, but I think I'd just buy a box of an older set or two. =D
If you bought these at (european) market prices, I would imagine a bit over 500 $ spent on them (+ postage). Naturally, if you can prove that the Rv, Lg, AN, Ag and Dk boosters are unsearched, you could get some more monay out of them, but I find that highly unlikely, as proving something like that is pretty hard.
The only way to concretely prove a loose pack being unsearched would propably be either searching it (Schöringer's booster) or opening it, and having some serious money in the booster. And thus why sell it?
I personally would get together a group of players for two drafts. I personally love to draft random formats and would imagine having 7 other players splitting the cost, would make the price reasonable. Maybe contact your local gaming store, as they can market it and host the tourney easier than a single person.
Since someone else added it up for me I'll admit that it was over $500 keeping in mind that I have one of each of the portal sets + unglued and unhinged too. Portal three kingdom did cost a fair bit. Here is a list of the packs I have. I also intend to get a pack of M11 very soon too.
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As screwed over as you are from your friend, I wouldn't feel bad. That's totally frikking awesome. I would host a draft event or something and charge a small entry fee. THen, winner gets first pick of the rares (Mana Drain? Underground Sea? Force of Will? Who knows?), or leave the Legends pack or something unopened as a prize for 1st. I'd pay like, $20 to play in a draft like that.
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Good news everybody! I talked to my friend tonight and h said that he'd split the cost of the packs with me. That means that we will be opening them all and hopefully if my video camera still works I will post vids of us opening them. Either way I will post a list of the contents of all the packs after they have been opened with some pics in addition at worst. The opening will happen sometime between July 30th and August 14th. I will post again in this thread again between those dates if this thread isn't bumped before that. Thanks for all your love and support.
Do you mean July 30th? June 30th already passed...
Make sure you do post the video and list of the cards. Put it on Youtube. It'll probably get a few hundred thousand views
Does anyone know of a place that lists the order the cards come in inside the packs as far as common, uncommon and rare etc. I think the vid would be better if all the rares were revealed last, but I don't know the order that the cards come in with every pack. Also any suggestions for an order of which packs should be opened etc? Any other suggestions are welcome as well.
Does anyone know of a place that lists the order the cards come in inside the packs as far as common, uncommon and rare etc. I think the vid would be better if all the rares were revealed last, but I don't know the order that the cards come in with every pack. Also any suggestions for an order of which packs should be opened etc? Any other suggestions are welcome as well.
I may be totally wrong here, but I don't think they used to actually BE in a specified order.
did you play before rarity-coded expansion symbols? if not, you'll see why that was a wonderful thing when they added it.
I would vote for newest to oldest as well.
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sorry here is a pic.
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If you do frame them, I'd also advise buying a pack for each of the rest of the sets.
However, if you want to get your money back, probably sell them to someone here (jedimindtricks) as they'd be coveted for drafting.
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might need to make a custom frame or maybe more of a shadowbox, or have one made, or something, though. I mean thats not precisely a normal sorta thing.
maybe for framing, you could get just the wrappers for those last few, in good condition, and dress them up for the asthetics? I mean it wouldn't be as good in a collecting sense, but it'd be more complete for the look.
though, if you wanted to do that, you could just use ALL empty wrappers.
I know I wouldn't have the gambling stomach to actually open a collection like that.
Anyway, at this point, you can either sell them for a definite loss, or open them and hope for a money card you can sell to recoup the cost, but risk opening junk and having a total loss. I don't know how much you need the $$.
What did you spend?
He could probably sell them for a profit on eBay if he just waits a few years and sells the packs collectively. I mean, that they are all collected together raises its value; the total is greater than the sum of its parts.
This is so amazingly cool, the array of packs in that pic. Thumbs up!
If anybody is really interested, I could show a pic.
If anybody is really, really interested in doing this, I probably have extra wrappers that I would trade for probably some commons or such.
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So...how much did you spend? I'd want to do something like this, but I think I'd just buy a box of an older set or two. =D
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The only way to concretely prove a loose pack being unsearched would propably be either searching it (Schöringer's booster) or opening it, and having some serious money in the booster. And thus why sell it?
I personally would get together a group of players for two drafts. I personally love to draft random formats and would imagine having 7 other players splitting the cost, would make the price reasonable. Maybe contact your local gaming store, as they can market it and host the tourney easier than a single person.
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4th Edition
5th Edition
6th Edition
7th Edition
8th Edition
9th Edition
10th Edition
Magic 2010
Alara Reborn
Alliances
Antiquities
Apocalypse
Arabian Nights
Betrayers of Kamigawa
Champions of Kamigawa
Chronicles
Coldsnap
Conflux
Darksteel
Dissension
Eventide
Exodus
Fallen Empires
Fifth Dawn
Future Sight
Guildpact
Homelands
Ice Age
Invasion
Judgment
Legends
Legions
Lorwyn
Mercadian Masques
Mirage
Mirrodin
Morningtide
Nemesis
Odyssey
Onslaught
Planar Chaos
Planeshift
Portal
Portal The Second Age
Portal Three Kingdoms
Prophecy
Ravnica
Renaissance
Rise of the Eldrazi
Saviors of Kamigawa
Scourge
Shadowmoor
Shards of Alara
Starter Series
Stronghold
Tempest
The Dark
Time Spiral
Torment
Unglued
Unhinged
Urza's Destiny
Urza's Legacy
Urza's Saga
Visions
Weatherlight
Worldwake
Zendikar
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Make sure you do post the video and list of the cards. Put it on Youtube. It'll probably get a few hundred thousand views
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I may be totally wrong here, but I don't think they used to actually BE in a specified order.
did you play before rarity-coded expansion symbols? if not, you'll see why that was a wonderful thing when they added it.
I would vote for newest to oldest as well.