So Progenitus has protection from everything. The ways I've come up to kill him are to mutilate him for 10, so he gets minus -10/-10, and sacrifice effects such as Barter in Blood
however he has protection from everything. Doesn't that mean protection from mutilate and being sacrificed?
Same with darksteel collosus, forced sacrifice and making him -11/-11 are ways that kill him correct?
You can clone progentius and the legend rule would kill both of them.
Mutilate and barter in blood would both work because you aren't targeting progenitus. Furthermore, sacrificing a creature is not the same as destroying it so darksteel colossus would have to be sacrificed if you played barter in blood and your opponent didn't have two other creatures out.
Can't be targeted, dealt damage, blocked or enchanted by anything. At least with Colossus you can use Pariah and Plowshares. Mutilate should work, and you're right about Edict effects (so named because four cards with "target player sacrifices a creature" have that word in the name). Wrath and Wrath effects are obvious. Pity a False Prophet can't block him without some trickery.
Edit: ah yes Legend rule abuse. Nontarget copy effects, or for extra hilarity, Bribery.
Can't be targeted, dealt damage, blocked or enchanted by anything.
That's the rules definition of protection from everything. Just have to get around the pesky fact that it rules out the vast majority of removal and look at the removal still left.
This situation came up a while back: I was playing Kithkin and staring down at an opposing Progenitus. He attacks with it, I play Mirrorweave targeting one of my dudes and block. My kithkin dude trades with Progenitus. Best part is that it actually gets to stay in the graveyard too, since it loses that ability as a result of the Mirrorweave.
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This situation came up a while back: I was playing Kithkin and staring down at an opposing Progenitus. He attacks with it, I play Mirrorweave targeting one of my dudes and block. My kithkin dude trades with Progenitus. Best part is that it actually gets to stay in the graveyard too, since it loses that ability as a result of the Mirrorweave.
I don't get it: Since Progenitus has protection from everything, how were you able to block it?
I don't get it: Since Progenitus has protection from everything, how were you able to block it?
Protection means it can't be targeted. Mirrorweave doesn't target. It makes all creatures a copy of one non-legendary creature. So in this example, Mirrorweave copied a Goldmeadow Stalwart as it was tapped to attack. Therefore, when it was blocked and dealt lethal damage, it died as a Goldmeadow Stalwart and went to the graveyard.
however he has protection from everything. Doesn't that mean protection from mutilate and being sacrificed?
Same with darksteel collosus, forced sacrifice and making him -11/-11 are ways that kill him correct?
Mutilate and barter in blood would both work because you aren't targeting progenitus. Furthermore, sacrificing a creature is not the same as destroying it so darksteel colossus would have to be sacrificed if you played barter in blood and your opponent didn't have two other creatures out.
Edit: ah yes Legend rule abuse. Nontarget copy effects, or for extra hilarity, Bribery.
It would destroy progenitus because it is not targeting him. It would not destroy indestructibles.
That's the rules definition of protection from everything. Just have to get around the pesky fact that it rules out the vast majority of removal and look at the removal still left.
Warren Wierding, Fleshbag Marauder, Austere Command, Hallowed Burial, Warp World, Clone, and Soulquake.
As for Darksteel Colossus, you have...
Warren Wierding, Fleshbag Marauder, Path to Exile, Oblivion Ring, Hallowed Burial, Warp World, Soul Quake, Inundate, Snakeform+any removal, Resounding Silence, Disperse, Resounding Wave, Mercy Killing, Tower Above, things with Wither, and there's probably more.
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This situation came up a while back: I was playing Kithkin and staring down at an opposing Progenitus. He attacks with it, I play Mirrorweave targeting one of my dudes and block. My kithkin dude trades with Progenitus. Best part is that it actually gets to stay in the graveyard too, since it loses that ability as a result of the Mirrorweave.
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I don't get it: Since Progenitus has protection from everything, how were you able to block it?
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He didn't block progenitus he blocked a goldmeadow stalwart.
Protection means it can't be targeted. Mirrorweave doesn't target. It makes all creatures a copy of one non-legendary creature. So in this example, Mirrorweave copied a Goldmeadow Stalwart as it was tapped to attack. Therefore, when it was blocked and dealt lethal damage, it died as a Goldmeadow Stalwart and went to the graveyard.
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They don't work on vedalken outlander why would they work on progenitus?