Real of Fake black lotus?

  • #1
    Hey guys!

    I was hoping you could shed some light on something for me, I recently acquired an unlimited Black Lotus, it passed the bend test, the water test and the light test. However when I examined it next to an Unlimited Mox Sapphire that I know is real, the dithering print appears slightly different.

    Is this cause for concern?





    Last edited by Nickalisk: 2/5/2008 6:47:17 PM
  • #2
    It is much better to actually hold one in your hand than look at images, but I don't see anything that screams "fake" from my end. The wear makes me believe it to be real, but that's about it.

    The thing that I'd suggest doing is to bring it to someone in your area that knows Vintage well, either that or go to a Vintage tournament. Get someone you can trust for a second opinion that can feel it and know it's fine by that. That'd probably be your best bet.
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  • #3
    Looks real to me. The dark/light issues could just be exposure to sun, etc. Considering that it's an Unlimited one, that's incredibly hard to "fake" on its own. If you are still unsure, take it to the black light test. That'll work every time.
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  • #4
    What kind of black light should I get?

    Is "9 UV LED" sufficient?
  • #5
    Does anyone know if the tiny "dithering" print on old cards varies from card to card?

    Dithering is the tiny pixelation you can see on old cards, the pattern in which they were printed.

    I ask because my black lotus and mox sapphire have different "print" patterns that you can only see when you squint really hard or use a jewelers loupe.

    Both passed the bend test/water test/ light test.

    I have a black light coming in the mail anyone day now, but I was wondering about the dithering print.

    If anyone has any Unlimited cards and would like to check if both of them have identical print, that would be great!

    (pictures would help)!
  • #6
    Quote from Nickalisk
    Does anyone know if the tiny "dithering" print on old cards varies from card to card?

    Dithering is the tiny pixelation you can see on old cards, the pattern in which they were printed.

    I ask because my black lotus and mox sapphire have different "print" patterns that you can only see when you squint really hard or use a jewelers loupe.

    Both passed the bend test/water test/ light test.

    I have a black light coming in the mail anyone day now, but I was wondering about the dithering print.

    If anyone has any Unlimited cards and would like to check if both of them have identical print, that would be great!

    (pictures would help)!
    Merged with the other thread you already started about this topic.
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  • #7
    What's the Bend Test?
  • #8
    It's when you put the card between two fingers and gently bend the card until your fingers meet. Fake paint will begin to chip or crack but an authentic card won't. This will not work with foils.
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  • #9
    if a card has been bend tested many times it will crease even if it's real.
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