Best reanimator targets of all time?... I've been asking around, and people always say around 5 creatures all the time, but the similarity ends there... Let's discuss....
Mine in this order would be
1. Reya dawnbringer
2. Akroma angel of wrath
3. Spirit of the night
4. Worldgorger dragon
5. Avatar of woe
6. Phantom nishoba
7. Sutcherd ghoul (SP)
8. Verdant force
9. Sundering Titan
10. Bladewing dragon
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Archon is at best sideboard, I think. When you're reanimating big things that gives you some sort of huge control or beatdown advantage, I think the least you have to worry about is being attacked. Razia is fine, but with Akroma already on board...
Only 1 creature in magic is worth reanimating, and its Worldgorger Dragon and whatever funky win condition he has with him, such as Ambasador Laquatus, Sliver Queen, Eternal Witness, or Caller of the Claw.
Sutured Ghoul is honorable mention.
Everything else is crap.
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"Sometimes, the situation is outracing a threat, sometimes it's ignoring it, and sometimes it involves sideboarding in 4x Hope//Pray." --Doug Linn
Only 1 creature in magic is worth reanimating, and its Worldgorger Dragon and whatever funky win condition he has with him, such as Ambasador Laquatus, Sliver Queen, Eternal Witness, or Caller of the Claw.
Sutured Ghoul is honorable mention.
Everything else is crap.
Wow. Thats a pretty bold statement.
1.Akroma
2.Spirit of the Night
3.Laquatus Champion
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Originally Posted by lossy Couldn't bwr also be france?
I like the idea of welding reanimating Sundering Titan. he at least deserves an HM on this list.
Akroma is by far the most popular target. Phage would obviously be the least popular unless you are up for some stifle shenanegans or have Platinum Angel in play...
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Worldgorger Dragon and the Ghoul are my all time favorites. Who can't love the decks they are built around. However, I didnt care for breakfast all that much in Extended.
Only 1 creature in magic is worth reanimating, and its Worldgorger Dragon and whatever funky win condition he has with him, such as Ambasador Laquatus, Sliver Queen, Eternal Witness, or Caller of the Claw.
Sutured Ghoul is honorable mention.
Everything else is crap.
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Wow. Thats a pretty bold statement.
1.Akroma
2.Spirit of the Night
3.Laquatus Champion
It is actually a pretty correct statment. For everyone saying Akroma is a great reanimation target, it is not so hot with dance of the dead, animate dead and necromancy.
My personal favorite (after a Buried Alive, preferably) is targetting a Bladewing the Risen and as a bonus also getting a free Rorix Bladewing and at least one Bladewing's Thrall (or more thanks to an Entomb or two); sometimes on the first turn thanks to a Black Lotus and a Mox or a couple Dark Rituals.
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Phage is very playable. Ever hear of a deck called Full English Breakfast? It does something with this little number called Survival of the fittest and some "shapeshifter" Psh...
Btw, Ever reanimate phage? It is quite good when you have a stifle in hand or platnium in play.
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It is actually a pretty correct statment. For everyone saying Akroma is a great reanimation target, it is not so hot with dance of the dead, animate dead and necromancy.
and the dozens others you can(and most ppl do) use to bring Akroma back? If you're going to share your facts with us, make sure you don't leave anything out next time.
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Originally Posted by lossy Couldn't bwr also be france?
This discussion reveals to me again how much people grossly overrate Reya Dawnbringer. Even as a reanimator target she is garbage and hardcasting her is really not an option. I virtually vomit everytime someone tries to justify her as good in any way. (Good for trading away I guess is an acceptable statement)
I have to agree to an extent that Worldgorge Dragon is the only reasonable target anymore, but that's from a type 1 perspective. The Ghoul has seen some success, but that's still more comboish. Akroma still should be mentioned though since she is such a recking ball once she enters play. Spirit of the Night is quite spectacular too. Nicol Bolas deserves honourable mention for his success in the old days. (Shallow Grave for the win!)
This discussion reveals to me again how much people grossly overrate Reya Dawnbringer. Even as a reanimator target she is garbage and hardcasting her is really not an option. I virtually vomit everytime someone tries to justify her as good in any way. (Good for trading away I guess is an acceptable statement)
I have to agree to an extent that Worldgorge Dragon is the only reasonable target anymore, but that's from a type 1 perspective. The Ghoul has seen some success, but that's still more comboish. Akroma still should be mentioned though since she is such a recking ball once she enters play. Spirit of the Night is quite spectacular too. Nicol Bolas deserves honourable mention for his success in the old days. (Shallow Grave for the win!)
step outside of the box for just a second and think about casual (yes, this is coming from someone who hasn't played casually in like 3 or 4 years).....reya's a LOT of fun in casual reanimator.
I would have to say Thorn Elemental or Akroma are the top targets. I would also think Silvos, Rogue Elemental would be pretty nice too along with Autochthon Wurm.
and the dozens others you can(and most ppl do) use to bring Akroma back? If you're going to share your facts with us, make sure you don't leave anything out next time.
Sorry, your right I left all the bad reanimaters out of the list. There is 1 card that is worth animateing, Worldgorger Dragon, there are 3 cards that animate Worldgorger Dragon, Animate Dead, Dance of the Dead and Necromancy. Therefore WGD and the his 3 animateing friends are the only viable reanimaters.
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My list:
1. Akroma, Angel of Wrath - who else? :tongue3:
2. Reya, Dawnbringer
3. Phantom Nishoba
Everything else isn't in order...
4. Verdant Force
5. Angel of Despair
6. Blazing Archon
7. Spirit of the Night
8. Razia, Boros Archangel
9. Rorix Bladewing
10. Visara, the Dreadful
Honorable mentions (SB material)
Symbiotic Wurm
Plated Slagwurm
Sundering Titan
1. Reya dawnbringer
2. Akroma angel of wrath
3. Spirit of the night
4. Worldgorger dragon
5. Avatar of woe
6. Phantom nishoba
7. Sutcherd ghoul (SP)
8. Verdant force
9. Sundering Titan
10. Bladewing dragon
Kokusho, the Evening Star
Yosei, the Morning Star
Arcanis the Omnipotent
Archon is at best sideboard, I think. When you're reanimating big things that gives you some sort of huge control or beatdown advantage, I think the least you have to worry about is being attacked. Razia is fine, but with Akroma already on board...
I just find that those creatures give such an advantage, much moreso than angel of despair or others. They give more over time.
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Sutured Ghoul is honorable mention.
Everything else is crap.
"Sometimes, the situation is outracing a threat, sometimes it's ignoring it, and sometimes it involves sideboarding in 4x Hope//Pray." --Doug Linn
Wow. Thats a pretty bold statement.
1.Akroma
2.Spirit of the Night
3.Laquatus Champion
Originally Posted by lossy
Couldn't bwr also be france?
Game with france:
"Swamp"
"I concede"
"....."
http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=30549
weldingreanimating Sundering Titan. he at least deserves an HM on this list.Akroma is by far the most popular target. Phage would obviously be the least popular unless you are up for some stifle shenanegans or have Platinum Angel in play...
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2. Sutured Ghoul
3. Akroma, Angel of Wrath
4. Spirit of the Night
5. Rorix, Bladewing
6. Phantom Nishoba
7. Visara, the Dreadful
8. Kokusho, the Evening Star
9. Yosei, the Morning Star
10. Reya Dawnbringer
Worldgorger Dragon and the Ghoul are my all time favorites. Who can't love the decks they are built around. However, I didnt care for breakfast all that much in Extended.
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It is actually a pretty correct statment. For everyone saying Akroma is a great reanimation target, it is not so hot with dance of the dead, animate dead and necromancy.
2. Akroma, Angel of Wrath
3. Phantom Nishoba
4. Verdant Force
5. Avatar of Woe
That's about all I can go in a specific order. I can't pick the Worldgorger because it needs a certain kind of reanimator card to be useful.
Akroma, Angel of Wrath
Phantom Nishoba
Spirit of the Night
Visara, the Dreadful
Sutured Ghoul
Blazing Archon
Reya Dawnbringer
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Btw, Ever reanimate phage? It is quite good when you have a stifle in hand or platnium in play.
2) S Ghoul:)
3) Akroma
Each one has had decks built around them so they are the best:)
Oh, so you're just going to leave out
Reanimate
Life // Death
Recurring Nightmare
and the dozens others you can(and most ppl do) use to bring Akroma back? If you're going to share your facts with us, make sure you don't leave anything out next time.
Originally Posted by lossy
Couldn't bwr also be france?
Game with france:
"Swamp"
"I concede"
"....."
http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=30549
2. Sutured Ghoul
3. Akroma, AOW
4. Spirit of the Night
5. Razia
6. Verdant Force
7. Phantom Nishoba
8. Rorix Bladewing
9. Reya Dawnbringer
10. Petradon
animate dead
dance of the dead
reanimate
exhume
creatures:
dragon mage
thorn elemental
putrid imp
visara the dreadful
phyrexian colossus
blazing archon
brimstone dragon
crosis, the purger
plated slagwurm
akroma (duh)
autochthon wurm
ascendant evincar
sounds like a wierd list, but if my deck dont win by turn 4, i got about the worst hand possible, or you got a really anoying hand.
I have to agree to an extent that Worldgorge Dragon is the only reasonable target anymore, but that's from a type 1 perspective. The Ghoul has seen some success, but that's still more comboish. Akroma still should be mentioned though since she is such a recking ball once she enters play. Spirit of the Night is quite spectacular too. Nicol Bolas deserves honourable mention for his success in the old days. (Shallow Grave for the win!)
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step outside of the box for just a second and think about casual (yes, this is coming from someone who hasn't played casually in like 3 or 4 years).....reya's a LOT of fun in casual reanimator.
outside of that, she's rubbish
Sorry, your right I left all the bad reanimaters out of the list. There is 1 card that is worth animateing, Worldgorger Dragon, there are 3 cards that animate Worldgorger Dragon, Animate Dead, Dance of the Dead and Necromancy. Therefore WGD and the his 3 animateing friends are the only viable reanimaters.