Graceful Stats is a deck building/tweaking site in early development built around the idea of analyzing decks with more math than available elsewhere.
How often does mono black get the "nut" draw of three lands (with at least one black source), a pack rat, and absolutely anything else? With 18 swamps, 4 Temple of Deceit and 4 Mutavault, it's 22.58%. Want to see what happens when you change out one mutavault for another swamp? Change the deck and the numbers automatically change.
Right now the site is a rudimentary deck builder, a basic but useful land statistics calculator, and the sole killer feature: opening hand stats. I have a lot of great plans for the site in the future, but it's at a point now where I think it's actually useful (especially for deck tweaking as opposed to building) and where other people can provide meaningful feedback.
I'm especially looking for wishlists, validation that this is actually a desired path to go down, and any workflow issues. Current known issues:
* It's not as obvious as I'd like that you can change the number of a card in the deck by clicking on the number and editing it.
* Format listings are just for your own organization and are not enforced.
* The opening hand calculations can get quite slow if you add a bunch.
* Land stats are likely to be wrong if you add "tricky" lands like fetchlands or Nykthos. Fetches will count as colorless as will Nykthos. Anything that isn't a basic land type and doesn't have rules text mentioning a color of mana is likely wrong.
Currently the best example of land stats and how they work is a janky Braids of Fire deck I've been playing with. Devotion to Black has the best example of opening hand stats.
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The biggest new feature is that (where possible) we try to figure out which archetypes are good against others. For instance here's the page on Affinity: http://www.gracefulstats.com/archetypes/view/21
According to my code, affinity has very good matchups against G(r) Tron, Kangaroo, Kiki Pod, Living End, and Merfolk. It has good matchups against Hatebears, Infect and Jund. Even matchups with America Control, Melira Pod, Splinter Twin, UR Delver and UR Storm. Finally it has very bad matchups with Ad Nauseum and Martyr Life. This code is NOT perfect, but it mostly suffers from lack of data (the site is still fairly new after all) and it should get better. I've only seen 53 matches with Affinity to base data on (and the numbers are much lower for other archetypes).
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It's so annoying that posting a thread doesn't automatically subscribe you. I missed this reply for quite a while!
All of the MTGO decks come from Wizards themselves. With the redesign they made that a little harder, but it still has a lot of info that I can use. There's not really an optimal way. They sometimes post decks that are just empty (a bug on their end) and have all sorts of other odd behaviors. It's my job to normalize as much of that as I can.
There have been a TON of updates on the main site. Anyone that is interested that hasn't checked it out in a while -- you should.
But this post isn't about that. I should do more feature-update posts, and maybe I will going forward. THIS update is about the reboot.
I am mostly-done making an API. Now I'm redoing the site using that API. I'm taking the time to really put thought into everything and to add some new features at the same time. I'm somewhat stuck on a few bits.
1. There are notes on cards below Merieke, King Macar, and a few others. How useful to you would you say this is likely to be? I'm loving it so far, and no other site (that I'm aware of) does this.
2. I can't figure out how I want you to be able to edit number of copies in your deck. The current site has a + and - that only shows when hovering -- this is bad for mobile. Showing them always looks bad. Showing them on click hurts discoverability. Without this, the beta site isn't technically usable. I've been trying to use it myself to eat my own dogfood, and the lack of being able to edit number of cards is killer.
3. Anything about the design that you just hate? It's mostly similar to the existing one, no huge changes.
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And now there's a "Snap Keep" game that lets you see samples hands from a deck, tell whether you'd keep or mulligan that hand, and see what others said about it. Just published a big improvement to this bit.
How often does mono black get the "nut" draw of three lands (with at least one black source), a pack rat, and absolutely anything else? With 18 swamps, 4 Temple of Deceit and 4 Mutavault, it's 22.58%. Want to see what happens when you change out one mutavault for another swamp? Change the deck and the numbers automatically change.
Right now the site is a rudimentary deck builder, a basic but useful land statistics calculator, and the sole killer feature: opening hand stats. I have a lot of great plans for the site in the future, but it's at a point now where I think it's actually useful (especially for deck tweaking as opposed to building) and where other people can provide meaningful feedback.
I'm especially looking for wishlists, validation that this is actually a desired path to go down, and any workflow issues. Current known issues:
* It's not as obvious as I'd like that you can change the number of a card in the deck by clicking on the number and editing it.
* Format listings are just for your own organization and are not enforced.
* The opening hand calculations can get quite slow if you add a bunch.
* Land stats are likely to be wrong if you add "tricky" lands like fetchlands or Nykthos. Fetches will count as colorless as will Nykthos. Anything that isn't a basic land type and doesn't have rules text mentioning a color of mana is likely wrong.
Currently the best example of land stats and how they work is a janky Braids of Fire deck I've been playing with. Devotion to Black has the best example of opening hand stats.
You can see tournament lists from MTGO here: http://www.gracefulstats.com/tournaments/
If you want just modern (for example) see here: http://www.gracefulstats.com/tournaments/format/2
The biggest new feature is that (where possible) we try to figure out which archetypes are good against others. For instance here's the page on Affinity: http://www.gracefulstats.com/archetypes/view/21
According to my code, affinity has very good matchups against G(r) Tron, Kangaroo, Kiki Pod, Living End, and Merfolk. It has good matchups against Hatebears, Infect and Jund. Even matchups with America Control, Melira Pod, Splinter Twin, UR Delver and UR Storm. Finally it has very bad matchups with Ad Nauseum and Martyr Life. This code is NOT perfect, but it mostly suffers from lack of data (the site is still fairly new after all) and it should get better. I've only seen 53 matches with Affinity to base data on (and the numbers are much lower for other archetypes).
All of the MTGO decks come from Wizards themselves. With the redesign they made that a little harder, but it still has a lot of info that I can use. There's not really an optimal way. They sometimes post decks that are just empty (a bug on their end) and have all sorts of other odd behaviors. It's my job to normalize as much of that as I can.
But what I came back to the thread to post is that you can now see stats for individual cards! Here's Torpor Orb: http://www.gracefulstats.com/card/view/11717
How about Goblin Guide? http://www.gracefulstats.com/card/view/10529
Nowhere near perfect, but getting some good stuff. Feel free to make suggestions anyone who reads this!
But this post isn't about that. I should do more feature-update posts, and maybe I will going forward. THIS update is about the reboot.
I am mostly-done making an API. Now I'm redoing the site using that API. I'm taking the time to really put thought into everything and to add some new features at the same time. I'm somewhat stuck on a few bits.
You can see the page I'm going to be asking questions about here: http://beta.gracefulstats.com/deck/view/20312
1. There are notes on cards below Merieke, King Macar, and a few others. How useful to you would you say this is likely to be? I'm loving it so far, and no other site (that I'm aware of) does this.
2. I can't figure out how I want you to be able to edit number of copies in your deck. The current site has a + and - that only shows when hovering -- this is bad for mobile. Showing them always looks bad. Showing them on click hurts discoverability. Without this, the beta site isn't technically usable. I've been trying to use it myself to eat my own dogfood, and the lack of being able to edit number of cards is killer.
3. Anything about the design that you just hate? It's mostly similar to the existing one, no huge changes.
http://beta.gracefulstats.com/deck/sneep/2640