I take it cards that use the text "repeat this process" are generally too complicated for a core set?
Considering that the last card to use it in a core set was Scalpelexis in Tenth Edition (although Mana Clash was a core set staple for a while) I'd be very cautious about using it, and I'd only use it at rare.
So are we just not going to have a returning mechanic this set? It might be nice to formulate at least goals for Limited color pair strategies as well. I noticed that there were a lot of flash guys in WU already, for example, not sure what sort of archetype that is but maybe it's something.
also there are a million spiders in the set, no more green reach or flying hate please
We have two mono-color encouraging rare cycles for whatever reason. Also not sure what we are supposed to be setting up for - I guess evasive attackers for ninjutsu and maybe some hand-size hijinks for moonfolk?
There are plenty of good cards, but as probably everyone expected, it's not much of a cohesive set.
I agree. I think a mechanic would give the set some focus. I like the mono-color matters and basic land type matters stuff we have going on so far. Maybe that's a start?
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Oh, what's that you say, Karn? You remove poison counters? You should tell that to Mr. Rosewater.
I agree on the monocolour theme being a good avenue to pursue (obviously enough as that's what I was trying with my booster this week). It's not really been done much before and I think it's interesting enough.
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I never saw the other Tibalt. It wasn't in the skeleton when i submitted my pack. I submitted my pack before the poll was even close to over. Didn't think about the spot filling.
I was just looking through the set skeleton for my round 3 pack and noticed that you have Wingsnare Archer under uncommons instead of commons. The world very well might end because of this.
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Oh, what's that you say, Karn? You remove poison counters? You should tell that to Mr. Rosewater.
Scores and skeleton updated with the Round 5 results. Note that we have no remaining slots for red uncommons or white mythics at this point, so submitting those is highly recommended against.
Ugh. Had the skeleton updated, and then promptly forgot to save that edit. I'll be working on fixing that for a little while. (And I'll re-update the scores, which is easier to get done.)
However, our Top 8 is...
We had two large ties - one for 3rd through 5th, and one for 8th through 10th. In both cases, the tiebreaker was "points from Rounds 2-6 only", on the basis that these were a (much) larger portion of your submitted cards.
Here are my thoughts on the set as it currently stands:
White:
1. We have a ridiculous amount of common fliers (5).
2. Griffins are almost always around the 2/2 range, but Trained Griffin is a 1/1. Makes more sense as a Bird.
6. It would be good to create a Seal for white.
Blue
3. Milling needs at least one more card to be viable in Limited.
5. No peek effect.
6. No Illusion effect.
Black:
1. Overworked Infantry feels like an almost guaranteed 2-for-1. Perhaps 4/3?
4. Black aggro does not seem all that viable.
5. No regeneration.
Red
1. Crash of Thunder makes everything else look silly by comparison.
2. "Gangbanger" might not be appropriate for a family game.
3. Typo on Goblin Paincaster.
5. Typo on Thoughts of Revolt.
7. Red should have a Seal.
11. No provoke effects.
12. No Tim.
13. No Fork/Redirect.
Man, tiebreakers'd out of Top 8? That is really a shame as I'd been having a lot of fun trying to play catchup on this one. Don't suppose your Top 8 structure could be adapted for a Top 10, could it?
Anyhow thanks MDenham for running this. Guess I actually need to try and qualify again for the next one!
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I'm pretty happy with this set overall; the Planeswalkers in particular came out quite well. Here's my nominations for modification (nothing personal, I promise )
Trained Griffin (too many fliers in white)
Angelic Guardian (unbeatable against some colors)
Banishment Angel (wordy)
Angel of Reckoning (very strong, especially when cheated)
Isolated Flood (out of pie)
Faerie Trickster (very strong for an uncommon, comparable to Mind Control)
Tamiyo (+1 on a board with less than 2 creatures is gg)
Tragic Thoughts (very strong in Limited, harsh against new players)
Firebomb or Crash of Thunder (power disparity is too great)
Tactless Mandrills (a bit weird)
Lava Barricade (sad rare)
Living Cataclysm (a bit weak? compare to Lava Axe)
Seal of Mist (I like it in white better)
Seedmind Archdruid (underwhelming in a majority of circumstances)
Hidden Fortress (almost no creatures to use it's ability on)
Lance of Fury (wordy)
Overall, the set could use more one and two-drops: aggro seems pretty weak, especially since the removal is excellent.
Are we just picking 12 cards that just get divvied up into three groups of four, or are we picking the groups of four from the start?
You'll be picking the groups of four right out of the gate.
The pick order is going to be (Sven picks once)-(you pick twice)-(Sven picks twice)-(you pick twice)-(Sven picks once) for each set of four-apiece (the remaining cards + the three groups of "fixes"), which is why I made the comment that as a thread this would take quite a while (20 posts just to pick cards) and it'll be faster to do it live instead.
EDIT: Also, thanks to a combination of "I got called in to work" and being, um, requested to show up for dinner with relatives, there is definitely no possibility of the live event happening today. If I have to push it out to Friday or Saturday just to fit schedules, I will, but obviously I'd prefer to do this tomorrow if at all possible.
All right. It's set for 3pm Pacific tomorrow. No delays. No excuses. Invites have been sent to your contact e-mails through CoverItLive.
For those interested in watching, here is your link. Note that we are limited to the first 100 viewers to show up (though somehow I doubt that will actually be a problem).
nice replay
do you guys want to go over the other cards and make changes before the finals? I also really hate how there isn't Cancel etc. in this set.
I think we'll leave further tweaking of the set until after the Finals wrap up and I put the current state of the set at that point into Custom Set Creation.
So this set has 11 uncommons per color instead of the typical 9? I couldn't find a breakdown on how rarities were distributed for this set so I'm curious.
So this set has 11 uncommons per color instead of the typical 9? I couldn't find a breakdown on how rarities were distributed for this set so I'm curious.
The breakdown is actually at the end of the skeleton spoiler in the first post - 19 commons, 11 uncommons, 8 rares, and 3 mythics per color, and a total of 100 commons, 64 uncommons, 49 rares, and 16 mythics (the remainder after the colored cards being split between artifacts and lands, obviously).
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also there are a million spiders in the set, no more green reach or flying hate please
We have two mono-color encouraging rare cycles for whatever reason. Also not sure what we are supposed to be setting up for - I guess evasive attackers for ninjutsu and maybe some hand-size hijinks for moonfolk?
There are plenty of good cards, but as probably everyone expected, it's not much of a cohesive set.
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I'm missing so many votes because of that.
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However, our Top 8 is...
Without further ado...
1st Seed: Svennihilator
2nd Seed: yewlas
3rd Seed: Gerrard's Mom
4th Seed: Raikou Rider
5th Seed: Koopa
6th Seed: aurorasparrow
7th Seed: void_nothing
8th Seed: Big_Cal
Just missing out: Link (?!) and Savia.
The Top 8 thread will be up shortly after I finish redoing the skeleton.
EDIT: Top 8 thread is up. Pick your slots carefully; the "pick your slots" bit will stick around for the rest of the Pro Tour.
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White:
1. We have a ridiculous amount of common fliers (5).
2. Griffins are almost always around the 2/2 range, but Trained Griffin is a 1/1. Makes more sense as a Bird.
6. It would be good to create a Seal for white.
Blue
3. Milling needs at least one more card to be viable in Limited.
5. No peek effect.
6. No Illusion effect.
Black:
1. Overworked Infantry feels like an almost guaranteed 2-for-1. Perhaps 4/3?
4. Black aggro does not seem all that viable.
5. No regeneration.
Red
1. Crash of Thunder makes everything else look silly by comparison.
2. "Gangbanger" might not be appropriate for a family game.
3. Typo on Goblin Paincaster.
5. Typo on Thoughts of Revolt.
7. Red should have a Seal.
11. No provoke effects.
12. No Tim.
13. No Fork/Redirect.
Green
4. No auras
5. No Naturalize/Acidic Slime.
4th place at CCC&G Pro Tour
Chances of bad hands (<2 or >4 land):
21: 28.9%
22: 27.5%
23: 26.3%
24: 25.5%
25: 25.1%
26: 25.3%
Anyhow thanks MDenham for running this. Guess I actually need to try and qualify again for the next one!
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I'll put the poll up in a few minutes.
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What, no one saw the Sword of Vengeance/Lance of Fury reference? =/
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Trained Griffin (too many fliers in white)
Angelic Guardian (unbeatable against some colors)
Banishment Angel (wordy)
Angel of Reckoning (very strong, especially when cheated)
Isolated Flood (out of pie)
Faerie Trickster (very strong for an uncommon, comparable to Mind Control)
Tamiyo (+1 on a board with less than 2 creatures is gg)
Tragic Thoughts (very strong in Limited, harsh against new players)
Firebomb or Crash of Thunder (power disparity is too great)
Tactless Mandrills (a bit weird)
Lava Barricade (sad rare)
Living Cataclysm (a bit weak? compare to Lava Axe)
Seal of Mist (I like it in white better)
Seedmind Archdruid (underwhelming in a majority of circumstances)
Hidden Fortress (almost no creatures to use it's ability on)
Lance of Fury (wordy)
Overall, the set could use more one and two-drops: aggro seems pretty weak, especially since the removal is excellent.
Good luck to both of you in the finals!
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Chances of bad hands (<2 or >4 land):
21: 28.9%
22: 27.5%
23: 26.3%
24: 25.5%
25: 25.1%
26: 25.3%
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The pick order is going to be (Sven picks once)-(you pick twice)-(Sven picks twice)-(you pick twice)-(Sven picks once) for each set of four-apiece (the remaining cards + the three groups of "fixes"), which is why I made the comment that as a thread this would take quite a while (20 posts just to pick cards) and it'll be faster to do it live instead.
EDIT: Also, thanks to a combination of "I got called in to work" and being, um, requested to show up for dinner with relatives, there is definitely no possibility of the live event happening today. If I have to push it out to Friday or Saturday just to fit schedules, I will, but obviously I'd prefer to do this tomorrow if at all possible.
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For those interested in watching, here is your link. Note that we are limited to the first 100 viewers to show up (though somehow I doubt that will actually be a problem).
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do you guys want to go over the other cards and make changes before the finals? I also really hate how there isn't Cancel etc. in this set.
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