Ryoma's card doesn't work with the current wording due state-based effects. It needs to be: "As ~ enters the battlefield, reveal cards from the top of your deck until you reveal a nonlegendary creature card. ~ enters the battlefield as a copy of that card."
I'm calling it right now- worst rare in the set. Even good limited players will find better bombs at common and uncommon no sweat. Worst. Episode. Ever.
I really do predict this to be our worst rare in set award winner. I'd be happier opening a jar of eyeballs, so I think anything worse is highly unlikely. This card wont just have zero constructed potential, but not be significantly better than a mass of ghouls in a draft.
Your card (Legacy Mantle) doesn't work either, Maokun.
Since it leaves the battlefield, even though it's just for a moment, it's a new permanent and doesn't "remember" what it exiled before. An example of what I mean: If you have some exiled cards with Karn Liberated then use Venser, the Sojourner's +1 ability on him, he will come back as a new permanent. If you restart the game with Karn, you won't start that game with the cards that Karn had exiled before you Flickered him. The same goes for your enchantment leaving the battlefield and not "knowing" what card(s) it exiled previously.
To get around this it would have to never leave the battlefield; or it would have to create an entirely new game zone and refer to that game zone. The first option is probably better
Your card (Legacy Mantle) doesn't work either, Maokun.
Since it leaves the battlefield, even though it's just for a moment, it's a new permanent and doesn't "remember" what it exiled before. An example of what I mean: If you have some exiled cards with Karn Liberated then use Venser, the Sojourner's +1 ability on him, he will come back as a new permanent. If you restart the game with Karn, you won't start that game with the cards that Karn had exiled before you Flickered him. The same goes for your enchantment leaving the battlefield and not "knowing" what card(s) it exiled previously.
To get around this it would have to never leave the battlefield; or it would have to create an entirely new game zone and refer to that game zone. The first option is probably better
Void Maw, at one point, exiled the cards it did with corpse counters on them, and suspend puts counters on exiled cards. You can use that templating as well.
Void Maw, at one point, exiled the cards it did with corpse counters on them, and suspend puts counters on exiled cards. You can use that templating as well.
Ah, yes. I wasn't thinking about that. Seems like a good way to do it. Though with this you get the unintended interaction of: if Legacy Mantle is removed in some way, and you play another one, it has all the abilities of the cards that any Legacy Mantles before it exiled. The only way I can think to get around this though is to never have it leave the battlefield and keep the wording it has; however, that interaction is probably fine since it is Legendary.
With so many cards, I couldn't keep track of all of them, and I like to be fair. So I made a Spreadsheet. I thought I'd share. 'Overall' uses weights, so Innovation > Fun > Flavor > Complexity > Balance.
Oh, and when I didn't like something obscure, it penalized the category I thought most fitting. (like Maokun's card: a creature spell can't target... so -1 in complexity I guess?)
User
Card
Innovation
Fun
Flavor
Complexity
Balance
Overall
MDenham
Inversion Ray
7
7
7
0
-1
22,5
Noatz
Infinity Void
7
6
8
0
-2
21,8
coolgriff14
Fblthp
8
7
8
0
0
25,3
Koopa
Spontaneous Infrastructure
7
7
8
0
0
24,1
swishh
Temporal Loop
8
6
8
0
0
24,2
Sir Karn
Rustling Banishment
7
5
7
0
-1
20,3
CrazyMatt
Mind Renewal
8
8
8
0
0
26,4
LnGrrrR
Ruthless Pit Fighter
9
8
8
0
0
27,6
bobby2055
Shaking in Your Boots
8
8
7
-2
0
24
arbitraryarmor
Stillmoon Lancer
8
7
8
1
1
26,6
ohmusama
Wandering Guardian
8
8
8
0
0
26,4
Draco9
Scour for Secrets
9
8
9
0
0
28,6
Cardz5000
Shadowy Deception
8
7
7
-1
0
23,6
Marco
Righteous Penitent
8
7
6
0
0
23,3
avatarz
Lost Crypt
7
6
8
0
-1
22,4
Ink-Treader
Souleater Mire
8
8
8
0
0
26,4
Rudyard
Aftergrowth
8
8
8
1
1
27,7
Lapson2
Clearwater Spring
10
10
10
0
0
33
void_nothing
Pumice Elemental
8
7
6
-1
0
22,6
Maokun
Corrupt Infiltrate
8
9
8
-1
0
26,8
Jaxck
Memory Implant
8
8
8
0
0
26,4
Icarael
Dolmen Hierarch
8
7
7
-1
-2
22,4
KarmicNoose
Street Brawl
8
7
9
0
-1
25,7
Ryoma Echizen
Remove Ingenuity
8
8
8
0
-1
25,8
Phew, and it only took me 2 hours. But hey, I learned how to do it using xpath, excel, bbcode, so it could be faster next time.
I wonder if it would be better to break this up into half-months (01-15, 16-XX) instead of monthly. When the contest approaches the end of the month, the people that are behind don't have as much of an incentive to participate.
I'm calling it right now- worst rare in the set. Even good limited players will find better bombs at common and uncommon no sweat. Worst. Episode. Ever.
I really do predict this to be our worst rare in set award winner. I'd be happier opening a jar of eyeballs, so I think anything worse is highly unlikely. This card wont just have zero constructed potential, but not be significantly better than a mass of ghouls in a draft.
I'm going to have to ask someone else to put the thread up today; the time I would have normally spent on putting the thread together instead got spent herding escaped sheep.
If someone would do that within the next half hour or so, that would be greatly appreciated; I won't be able to do it until at least eight hours from now without being late for work.
This time it only took me 30 minutes :D. I've decided to put rules problems into 'balance'. (Maokun's card has problems again: I don't think you can target as cost.)
I'm glad you thought my card is balanced. I realized compared to Bone Splinters it could be too powerful. I should have made the additional cost to tap two untapped creatures.
Woah some really zany ones already! Probably one of the biggest combo enablers I've ever seen and a or guy that usually makes all your creatures unblockable. Lots of stuff I've never thought of!
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Since it leaves the battlefield, even though it's just for a moment, it's a new permanent and doesn't "remember" what it exiled before. An example of what I mean: If you have some exiled cards with Karn Liberated then use Venser, the Sojourner's +1 ability on him, he will come back as a new permanent. If you restart the game with Karn, you won't start that game with the cards that Karn had exiled before you Flickered him. The same goes for your enchantment leaving the battlefield and not "knowing" what card(s) it exiled previously.
To get around this it would have to never leave the battlefield; or it would have to create an entirely new game zone and refer to that game zone. The first option is probably better
Void Maw, at one point, exiled the cards it did with corpse counters on them, and suspend puts counters on exiled cards. You can use that templating as well.
I̟̥͍̠ͅn̩͉̣͍̬͚ͅ ̬̬͖t̯̹̞̺͖͓̯̤h̘͍̬e͙̯͈̖̼̮ ̭̬f̺̲̲̪i͙͉̟̩̰r̪̝͚͈̝̥͍̝̲s̼̻͇̘̳͔ͅt̲̺̳̗̜̪̙ ̳̺̥̻͚̗ͅm̜̜̟̰͈͓͎͇o̝̖̮̝͇m̯̻̞̼̫̗͓̤e̩̯̬̮̩n͎̱̪̲̹͖t͇̖s̰̮ͅ,̤̲͙̻̭̻̯̹̰ ̖t̫̙̺̯͖͚̯ͅh͙̯̦̳̗̰̟e͖̪͉̼̯ ̪͕g̞̣͔a̗̦t̬̬͓͙̫̖̭̻e̩̻̯ ̜̖̦̖̤̭͙̬t̞̹̥̪͎͉ͅo͕͚͍͇̲͇͓̺ ̭̬͙͈̣̻t͈͍͙͓̫̖͙̩h̪̬̖̙e̗͈ ̗̬̟̞̺̤͉̯ͅa̦̯͚̙̜̮f͉͙̲̣̞̼t̪̤̞̣͚e̲͉̳̥r͇̪̙͚͓l̥̞̞͎̹̯̹ͅi͓̬f̮̥̬̞͈ͅe͎ ̟̩̤̳̠̯̩̯o̮̘̲p̟͚̣̞͉͓e͍̩̣n͔̼͕͚̜e̬̱d̼̘͎̖̹͍̮̠,͖̺̭̱̮ ̣̲͖̬̪̭̥a̪͚n̟̲̝̤̤̞̗d̘̱̗͇̮͕̳͕͔ ͖̞͉͎t̹̙͎h̰̱͉̗e̪̞̱̝̹̩ͅ ̠̱̩̭̦p̯̙e͓o̳͚̰̯̺̱̰͔̘p̬͎̱̣̼̩͇l̗̟̖͚̠e̱͉͔̱̦̬̟̙ ̖͚̪͔̼̦w̺̖̤̱e͖̗̻̦͓̖̘̜r̭̥e͔̹̫̱͕̦̰͕ ̗͔̠p̠̗͍͍̱̳̠r̰͔͎̰o͉̥͓̰͚̥s̟͚̹̱͔̣t͉̙̳̖͖̪̮r̥̘̥͙̹a͉̟̫̟̳̠̟̭t͈̜̰͈͎e̞̣̭̲̬ ͚̗̯̟͙i͍͖̰̘̦͖͉ṇ̮̻̯̦̲̩͍ ̦̮͚̫̤t͉͖̫͕ͅͅh͙̮̻̘̣̮̼e͕̺ ͙l͕̠͎̰̥i̲͓͉̲g̫̳̟͈͇̖h̠̦̖t͓̯͎̗ ̳̪̘̟̙̩̦o̫̲f̙͔̰̙̠ ̹̪̗͇̯t͖̼̼͉͖̬h̹͇̩e͚̖̺̤͉̹͕̪ ͚͓̭̝̺G͎̗̯̩o̫̯̮̟̮̳̘d̜̲͙̠-̩̳̯̲̗̜P̹̘̥͉̝h͍͈̗̖̝ͅa͍̗̮̼̗r̜̖͇̙̺a̭̺͔̞̳͈o̪̣͓̯̬͙̯̰̗h̖̦͈̥̯͔.͇̣̙̝
Ah, yes. I wasn't thinking about that. Seems like a good way to do it. Though with this you get the unintended interaction of: if Legacy Mantle is removed in some way, and you play another one, it has all the abilities of the cards that any Legacy Mantles before it exiled. The only way I can think to get around this though is to never have it leave the battlefield and keep the wording it has; however, that interaction is probably fine since it is Legendary.
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Oh, and when I didn't like something obscure, it penalized the category I thought most fitting. (like Maokun's card: a creature spell can't target... so -1 in complexity I guess?)
Phew, and it only took me 2 hours. But hey, I learned how to do it using xpath, excel, bbcode, so it could be faster next time.
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If someone would do that within the next half hour or so, that would be greatly appreciated; I won't be able to do it until at least eight hours from now without being late for work.
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I̟̥͍̠ͅn̩͉̣͍̬͚ͅ ̬̬͖t̯̹̞̺͖͓̯̤h̘͍̬e͙̯͈̖̼̮ ̭̬f̺̲̲̪i͙͉̟̩̰r̪̝͚͈̝̥͍̝̲s̼̻͇̘̳͔ͅt̲̺̳̗̜̪̙ ̳̺̥̻͚̗ͅm̜̜̟̰͈͓͎͇o̝̖̮̝͇m̯̻̞̼̫̗͓̤e̩̯̬̮̩n͎̱̪̲̹͖t͇̖s̰̮ͅ,̤̲͙̻̭̻̯̹̰ ̖t̫̙̺̯͖͚̯ͅh͙̯̦̳̗̰̟e͖̪͉̼̯ ̪͕g̞̣͔a̗̦t̬̬͓͙̫̖̭̻e̩̻̯ ̜̖̦̖̤̭͙̬t̞̹̥̪͎͉ͅo͕͚͍͇̲͇͓̺ ̭̬͙͈̣̻t͈͍͙͓̫̖͙̩h̪̬̖̙e̗͈ ̗̬̟̞̺̤͉̯ͅa̦̯͚̙̜̮f͉͙̲̣̞̼t̪̤̞̣͚e̲͉̳̥r͇̪̙͚͓l̥̞̞͎̹̯̹ͅi͓̬f̮̥̬̞͈ͅe͎ ̟̩̤̳̠̯̩̯o̮̘̲p̟͚̣̞͉͓e͍̩̣n͔̼͕͚̜e̬̱d̼̘͎̖̹͍̮̠,͖̺̭̱̮ ̣̲͖̬̪̭̥a̪͚n̟̲̝̤̤̞̗d̘̱̗͇̮͕̳͕͔ ͖̞͉͎t̹̙͎h̰̱͉̗e̪̞̱̝̹̩ͅ ̠̱̩̭̦p̯̙e͓o̳͚̰̯̺̱̰͔̘p̬͎̱̣̼̩͇l̗̟̖͚̠e̱͉͔̱̦̬̟̙ ̖͚̪͔̼̦w̺̖̤̱e͖̗̻̦͓̖̘̜r̭̥e͔̹̫̱͕̦̰͕ ̗͔̠p̠̗͍͍̱̳̠r̰͔͎̰o͉̥͓̰͚̥s̟͚̹̱͔̣t͉̙̳̖͖̪̮r̥̘̥͙̹a͉̟̫̟̳̠̟̭t͈̜̰͈͎e̞̣̭̲̬ ͚̗̯̟͙i͍͖̰̘̦͖͉ṇ̮̻̯̦̲̩͍ ̦̮͚̫̤t͉͖̫͕ͅͅh͙̮̻̘̣̮̼e͕̺ ͙l͕̠͎̰̥i̲͓͉̲g̫̳̟͈͇̖h̠̦̖t͓̯͎̗ ̳̪̘̟̙̩̦o̫̲f̙͔̰̙̠ ̹̪̗͇̯t͖̼̼͉͖̬h̹͇̩e͚̖̺̤͉̹͕̪ ͚͓̭̝̺G͎̗̯̩o̫̯̮̟̮̳̘d̜̲͙̠-̩̳̯̲̗̜P̹̘̥͉̝h͍͈̗̖̝ͅa͍̗̮̼̗r̜̖͇̙̺a̭̺͔̞̳͈o̪̣͓̯̬͙̯̰̗h̖̦͈̥̯͔.͇̣̙̝
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