Despotic Constable2WB
Creature - Human Soldier Will of the Council - When Despotic Constable comes into play, starting with you, each player votes for appeasement or punishment. If appeasement gets more votes, each player loses 2 life and you gain life equal to the life lost this way. If punishment gets more votes or the vote is tied, creatures your opponents control get -2/-2 until end of turn.
2/3
Temporal Impulsiveness1RR
Sorcery [R] Will of the Council—Starting with you, each player votes for past or future. If past gets the most votes, each player may cast an instant or sorcery card in their graveyard without paying its mana cost. If a card cast this way would be put into a graveyard this turn, exile it instead. If future gets the most votes or is tied for the most votes, each player discards their hand, then draws seven cards.
"I choose this awesome card in my graveyard"
"okay I choose this counterspell"
How is this any different from casting a counterspell from your hand? Also, if there's a counterspell already in the graveyard, perhaps choosing the wheel of fortune mode would be the wiser option.
Highland Development1RR
Enchantment (R) Parley — At the beginning of your upkeep, each player reveals the top card of his or her library. You may cast one of those cards and spend mana as though it were mana of any color to cast it. Then each player draws a card.
Reveal Bureaucratic Intimidator as you draft it. Note the players seated to the left and right of you.
Intimidate.
Whenever players finish voting, if a noted player voted differently than you, you may change that player's vote.
3/3 "Miss Marchesa only asks for your utmost and loyal support in this coming electoral race."
Reveal Bureaucratic Intimidator as you draft it. Note the players seated to the left and right of you.
Intimidate.
If the noted players would vote, if one or more voted differently than you, change their vote.
3/3 "Miss Marchesa only asks for your utmost and loyal support from you in this coming electoral race."
IIW: Political Satire
Maybe "Whenever players finish voting, if a noted player voted differently than you, you may change that player's vote." or something like that.
Otherwise, if they're ahead of you in turn order for a vote, the replacement effect can't apply to that player, since you haven't voted.
Temporal Impulsiveness1RR
Sorcery [R] Will of the Council—Starting with you, each player votes for past or future. If past gets the most votes, each player may cast an instant or sorcery card in their graveyard without paying its mana cost. If a card cast this way would be put into a graveyard this turn, exile it instead. If future gets the most votes or is tied for the most votes, each player discards their hand, then draws seven cards.
IIW: explore the mantle of the color pie
This gave me an idea too cute to waste.
Muzzio's Mandate2U
Sorcery {R} Will of the Council - Starting with you, each player votes for progress or nostalgia. If progress gets the most votes, you may put an artifact card from your hand onto the battlefield. If nostalgia gets the most votes or is tied for the most votes, you may return an artifact card from your graveyard to the battlefield.
Paliano's Finest2W
Creature - Human Soldier (U)
Whenever players finish voting, each opponent who voted for a choice you didn't vote for can't attack you during his or her next combat phase. The most honest and upstanding police force money can buy.
2/3
Grandiose Illusionist3U
Creature - Human Rogue (R)
Dethrone
Grandiose Illusionist can't be blocked.
When Grandiose Illusionist enters the battlefield, you may have target player gain 20 life. If you do, when Grandiose Illusionist leaves the battlefield, that player loses 20 life.
2/1
Mana Brokerage
Conspiracy (R)
Other players may pay any amount of mana to have you add that mana to your mana pool.
You may pay any amount of mana to have another player add that mana to his or her mana pool. (Mana includes its color.)
In other words, players can trade mana, but they need your permission to do so (and trust that you don't spend the mana). Credit to Moon-E for this wording.
Kerreg, Sword of the Council
Legendary Creature - Human Knight Will of the Council — Starting with you, at the beginning of combat on your turn, each player votes for a player that is not you. Kerreg attacks a player with the most votes or tied for the most votes this combat if able.
Dethrone
5/5
Otherworldly Flask3
Artifact (M)
Draft Otherworldly Flask face up.
Whenever you draft a card, if you have less than three card names noted with cards named Otherworldly Flask, you may choose to draft that card face up and note its name. T: Choose a card you own from outside the game with a name you noted as you drafted cards named Otherworldly Flask. You may play that card without paying its mana cost. "This ingenious device is meant to hold a wish-granting djinn. Here I've simply cut out the middle man."
-Daretti, Scrap Savant
IIW: Strive
Private Mod Note
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Rollback Post to RevisionRollBack
"In the beginning, MTG Salvation switched to a new forum format.
This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move."
It was at that moment that I realized: I'm kinda just making these things up. We can just write the rules the way we want them to work. People will have fun, and people will get it.
Ugh, Oculus is back. I'm going to have to start winning again, aren't I?
Muzzio's Entomologist2U
Creature — Human Artificer (R) 2U, T: Put a 1/1 colorless Insect artifact creature token with flying onto the battlefield.
Whenever an Insect you control deals combat damage to a player, you may draw a card. “Artifice doesn't just mimic life, it flatters it.”
2/2
Limit Remover Machination
Artifact Creature - Construct (R)
Reveal ~ as you draft it. Reveal the cards you have drafted and note the highest converted mana cost of a nonland revealed this way.
~'s casting cost is equal to the number noted this way.
4/4
Consortium's Doomsday Machine
Artifact Creature - Horror (R)
Trample
Will off the Council - Reveal ~ as you draft it. Starting with you, each player votes for power or toughness. Note the votes.
~'s casting cost is equal to the number of votes, gets +2/+1 for each vote for power and +1/+2 for each vote for toughness.
0/0
IIW: Doomsday Machines
I feel like I just got punched in the eye by a rules book. Assuming there's a way to word these in a way that works, they're cute designs. Limit Remover Machination is an agressive body if you don't draft any bombs (or pick it first and get a 4/4 for 0). Doomsday Machine will always be over the curve (assuming an 8-man draft, it'll be an 8/16 trample for 8 on its best day), no to mention multiples. They're adorable ideas but need a big rethink.
Recompense1U
Instant (U)
Draw X cards, where X is equal to one plus the number of players who voted for a choice you didn't vote for during the last vote.
IIW: What are the other two paths?
Nice, but potential memory issues. Minor issues mind you, and none that are fixed easily. "If you voted this turn, ..."?
Despotic Constable2WB
Creature - Human Soldier Will of the Council - When Despotic Constable comes into play, starting with you, each player votes for appeasement or punishment. If appeasement gets more votes, each player loses 2 life and you gain life equal to the life lost this way. If punishment gets more votes or the vote is tied, creatures your opponents control get -2/-2 until end of turn.
2/3
IIW: Creatures with Unusual Jobs
Despotic Constable is a little too close to Bite of the Black Rose for my liking. It's very powerful though, especially considering it's almost always a one-sided Infest in one-on-one.
Temporal Impulsiveness1RR
Sorcery [R] Will of the Council—Starting with you, each player votes for past or future. If past gets the most votes, each player may cast an instant or sorcery card in their graveyard without paying its mana cost. If a card cast this way would be put into a graveyard this turn, exile it instead. If future gets the most votes or is tied for the most votes, each player discards their hand, then draws seven cards.
IIW: explore the mantle of the color pie
Seems fine. I'm sure there's something degenerate to be done, but
Destroy target creature targeted by a spell an opponent controls.
"One way or another, you won't be doing business with him again." -Marchesa, the Black Rose
IIW: Cards for Lifegain.dec
Cancel++. Honestly it might be better to say "Counter target spell you don't control. Destroy all creatures being targeted by that spell". It's a cool design though, takes me back to Teferi's Response.
Highland Development1RR
Enchantment (R) Parley — At the beginning of your upkeep, each player reveals the top card of his or her library. You may cast one of those cards and spend mana as though it were mana of any color to cast it. Then each player draws a card.
(Compare with Phyrexian Arena)
I'm not entirely sure this is how Parley is meant to be used but I'll let it slide. Not so much Phyrexian Arena as it is a worse Well of Ideas. Cool effect, but could use some testing in terms of cost. One could argue it's more at home in blue/black, although red is still feasible.
Reveal Bureaucratic Intimidator as you draft it. Note the players seated to the left and right of you.
Intimidate.
Whenever players finish voting, if a noted player voted differently than you, you may change that player's vote.
3/3 "Miss Marchesa only asks for your utmost and loyal support in this coming electoral race."
IIW: Political Satire
Edit: Thank you Cythare!
*sprays you with water*
Taking away players' decisions is bad. You're taking an interactive mechanic and saying it's no longer interactive for two players.
Oh, and 2B for a 3/3 intimidate is also brutal. Cost more or be more fragile please.
Paliano's Finest2W
Creature - Human Soldier (U)
Whenever players finish voting, each opponent who voted for a choice you didn't vote for can't attack you during his or her next combat phase. The most honest and upstanding police force money can buy.
2/3
Grandiose Illusionist3U
Creature - Human Rogue (R)
Dethrone
Grandiose Illusionist can't be blocked.
When Grandiose Illusionist enters the battlefield, you may have target player gain 20 life. If you do, when Grandiose Illusionist leaves the battlefield, that player loses 20 life.
2/1
IIW: Tertiary
Funnily enough, Paliano's Finest is exactly what I was looking for.
Grandiose Illusionist is super cute too. Unblockable might be a touch too brutal but other than that it's spot-on.
Mana Brokerage
Conspiracy (R)
Other players may pay any amount of mana to have you add that mana to your mana pool.
You may pay any amount of mana to have another player add that mana to his or her mana pool. (Mana includes its color.)
In other words, players can trade mana, but they need your permission to do so (and trust that you don't spend the mana). Credit to Moon-E for this wording.
This will almost always be last-picked, and it almost always will be hilarious. The fact is that no matter how bad conspiracies are, they're free to use. I'd love to see a control player pick this up in order to play Counterspell-for-hire.
Kerreg, Sword of the Council
Legendary Creature - Human Knight Will of the Council — Starting with you, at the beginning of combat on your turn, each player votes for a player that is not you. Kerreg attacks a player with the most votes or tied for the most votes this combat if able.
Dethrone
5/5
IIW: What is this? a plane for ants?
As much as I hate this being those colors, it's probably the most suitable. If anything, blue can probably be cut. I recognize that Dethrone was thrown in for extra intrigue, but it detracts from the main mechanic.
Otherworldly Flask3
Artifact (M)
Draft Otherworldly Flask face up.
Whenever you draft a card, if you have less than three card names noted with cards named Otherworldly Flask, you may choose to draft that card face up and note its name. T: Choose a card you own from outside the game with a name you noted as you drafted cards named Otherworldly Flask. You may play that card without paying its mana cost. "This ingenious device is meant to hold a wish-granting djinn. Here I've simply cut out the middle man."
-Daretti, Scrap Savant
IIW: Strive
Woo the Grixis control deck now gets free, instant-speed Pelakka Wurms turn 3. If you still had to pay for it it *might* be balanced. It's a very cool idea though.
Ugh, Oculus is back. I'm going to have to start winning again, aren't I?
Muzzio's Entomologist2U
Creature — Human Artificer (R) 2U, T: Put a 1/1 colorless Insect artifact creature token with flying onto the battlefield.
Whenever an Insect you control deals combat damage to a player, you may draw a card. “Artifice doesn't just mimic life, it flatters it.”
2/2
IIW: Cards for your first ever deck.
As much as I love the card, the costs make me uneasy.
If a curious 1/1 for 3 with flying is okay (let's say a Sturmgeist fixed at 1/1), then a spellshaper that makes them for 2U is okay. If you don't have to discard a card, it should cost more. But as soon as this dies, the tokens stop being curious, which makes it less valuable. 1U 1/2 with 3U activation? Hm.
It was at that moment that I realized: I'm kinda just making these things up. We can just write the rules the way we want them to work. People will have fun, and people will get it.
Ascending MindflareXUUR
Instant (R) Strive — Ascending Mindflare costs UR more to cast for each target beyond the first.
Any number of target player draws X cards then Ascending Mindflare deals X damage to him or her.
ok.. hmm.. what is Tertiary ? why do people like to give a very vague challenge :(.. i don't know where to start whenever i get a challenge like this..
ok then.. entry for Tertiary:
Cabal Mindgrab1BB
Instant (R)
When you cast Cabal Mindgrab, any player may pay 5 life. If a player does, counter Cabal Mindgrab.
Gain control of target creature until end of turn. Untap that creature. It gains haste until end of turn.
Don't forget, everyone at the table gets to see the cards! (Plus I don't really think about development when I make cards here...)
That's true, multiplayer is a self-balancing environment in a way. I'm not sure that matters enough though - either it drops too early for everyone to deal with it, or it drops late enough that it doesn't matter.
Also you have my IIW but Atogaholic won (his challenge is "Tertiary")
Oops. I'm sure he'll live.
Dual entry just in case:
Fevered HateR
Sorcery {U} Strive - Fevered Hate costs 1R more to cast for each target beyond the first.
Any number of target creatures each get +2/-2 until end of turn.
Markov Renegade2BB
Creature — Vampire Warrior (U)
When Markov Renegade enters the battlefield, you may sacrifice another creature. If you do, put a +1/+1 counter on Markov Renegade and it gains haste until end of turn. Debauchery drove the vampires to the brink of madness. Desperation pushed them over the edge.
4/3
Irascible Ghast
Creature - Spirit Warrior (C)
Haste, frenzy 2 Draski warriors who fall outside fields of battle are doomed to fight on them forever.
1/2
IIW: Monohybrid (bonus points if you give it a good flavor)
Tap1B
Sorcery (R)
Destroy target creature if it's tapped. Otherwise, tap it.
////Fuse/// Tap1B
Sorcery (R)
Destroy target creature if it's tapped. Otherwise, tap it.
Rule #2: Doubletap.
(For a safer variant, add a colorless mana to each side and make it uncommon)
ok.. hmm.. what is Tertiary ? why do people like to give a very vague challenge :(.. i don't know where to start whenever i get a challenge like this...
Presumably any interpretation is okay, but the intended meaning is probably "something the color is tertiary in", with regards to the color pie.
Creature - Human Soldier
Will of the Council - When Despotic Constable comes into play, starting with you, each player votes for appeasement or punishment. If appeasement gets more votes, each player loses 2 life and you gain life equal to the life lost this way. If punishment gets more votes or the vote is tied, creatures your opponents control get -2/-2 until end of turn.
2/3
IIW: Creatures with Unusual Jobs
Sorcery [R]
Will of the Council—Starting with you, each player votes for past or future. If past gets the most votes, each player may cast an instant or sorcery card in their graveyard without paying its mana cost. If a card cast this way would be put into a graveyard this turn, exile it instead. If future gets the most votes or is tied for the most votes, each player discards their hand, then draws seven cards.
IIW: explore the mantle of the color pie
"okay I choose this counterspell"
Draft my cube! (630 cards)
How is this any different from casting a counterspell from your hand? Also, if there's a counterspell already in the graveyard, perhaps choosing the wheel of fortune mode would be the wiser option.
Draft my cube! (630 cards)
Enchantment (R)
Parley — At the beginning of your upkeep, each player reveals the top card of his or her library. You may cast one of those cards and spend mana as though it were mana of any color to cast it. Then each player draws a card.
(Compare with Phyrexian Arena)
Creature-Human Rogue (R)
Reveal Bureaucratic Intimidator as you draft it. Note the players seated to the left and right of you.
Intimidate.
Whenever players finish voting, if a noted player voted differently than you, you may change that player's vote.
3/3
"Miss Marchesa only asks for your utmost and loyal support in this coming electoral race."
IIW: Political Satire
Edit: Thank you Cythare!
"There are no two words in the English language more harmful than 'good job'." -Terrance Fletcher, Whiplash (2014)
Otherwise, if they're ahead of you in turn order for a vote, the replacement effect can't apply to that player, since you haven't voted.
Draft my cube! (630 cards)
This gave me an idea too cute to waste.
Muzzio's Mandate 2U
Sorcery {R}
Will of the Council - Starting with you, each player votes for progress or nostalgia. If progress gets the most votes, you may put an artifact card from your hand onto the battlefield. If nostalgia gets the most votes or is tied for the most votes, you may return an artifact card from your graveyard to the battlefield.
[15:21] <@CC> Remember, if you argue, you are an idiot.
Untrophied Wins:
Perfect MCC Scores: 2
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Creature - Human Soldier (U)
Whenever players finish voting, each opponent who voted for a choice you didn't vote for can't attack you during his or her next combat phase.
The most honest and upstanding police force money can buy.
2/3
Grandiose Illusionist 3U
Creature - Human Rogue (R)
Dethrone
Grandiose Illusionist can't be blocked.
When Grandiose Illusionist enters the battlefield, you may have target player gain 20 life. If you do, when Grandiose Illusionist leaves the battlefield, that player loses 20 life.
2/1
IIW: Tertiary
Conspiracy (R)
Other players may pay any amount of mana to have you add that mana to your mana pool.
You may pay any amount of mana to have another player add that mana to his or her mana pool.
(Mana includes its color.)
In other words, players can trade mana, but they need your permission to do so (and trust that you don't spend the mana). Credit to Moon-E for this wording.
Legendary Creature - Human Knight
Will of the Council — Starting with you, at the beginning of combat on your turn, each player votes for a player that is not you. Kerreg attacks a player with the most votes or tied for the most votes this combat if able.
Dethrone
5/5
IIW: What is this? a plane for ants?
Oh god I was just about to waste a lot of time wasn't I. Thanks for keeping track of this in my absence.
The original intention was creatures, but as long as it's something that would fit into the setting I'm not fussed.
[15:21] <@CC> Remember, if you argue, you are an idiot.
Untrophied Wins:
Perfect MCC Scores: 2
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Artifact (M)
Draft Otherworldly Flask face up.
Whenever you draft a card, if you have less than three card names noted with cards named Otherworldly Flask, you may choose to draft that card face up and note its name.
T: Choose a card you own from outside the game with a name you noted as you drafted cards named Otherworldly Flask. You may play that card without paying its mana cost.
"This ingenious device is meant to hold a wish-granting djinn. Here I've simply cut out the middle man."
-Daretti, Scrap Savant
IIW: Strive
This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move."
Comic Book Set
Archester: Frontier of Steam (A steampunk set!)
A Good Place to Start Designing
Muzzio's Entomologist 2U
Creature — Human Artificer (R)
2U, T: Put a 1/1 colorless Insect artifact creature token with flying onto the battlefield.
Whenever an Insect you control deals combat damage to a player, you may draw a card.
“Artifice doesn't just mimic life, it flatters it.”
2/2
IIW: Cards for your first ever deck.
I feel like I just got punched in the eye by a rules book. Assuming there's a way to word these in a way that works, they're cute designs. Limit Remover Machination is an agressive body if you don't draft any bombs (or pick it first and get a 4/4 for 0). Doomsday Machine will always be over the curve (assuming an 8-man draft, it'll be an 8/16 trample for 8 on its best day), no to mention multiples. They're adorable ideas but need a big rethink.
Nice, but potential memory issues. Minor issues mind you, and none that are fixed easily. "If you voted this turn, ..."?
Despotic Constable is a little too close to Bite of the Black Rose for my liking. It's very powerful though, especially considering it's almost always a one-sided Infest in one-on-one.
Seems fine. I'm sure there's something degenerate to be done, but
Cancel++. Honestly it might be better to say "Counter target spell you don't control. Destroy all creatures being targeted by that spell". It's a cool design though, takes me back to Teferi's Response.
I'm not entirely sure this is how Parley is meant to be used but I'll let it slide. Not so much Phyrexian Arena as it is a worse Well of Ideas. Cool effect, but could use some testing in terms of cost. One could argue it's more at home in blue/black, although red is still feasible.
*sprays you with water*
Taking away players' decisions is bad. You're taking an interactive mechanic and saying it's no longer interactive for two players.
Oh, and 2B for a 3/3 intimidate is also brutal. Cost more or be more fragile please.
Funnily enough, Paliano's Finest is exactly what I was looking for.
Grandiose Illusionist is super cute too. Unblockable might be a touch too brutal but other than that it's spot-on.
This will almost always be last-picked, and it almost always will be hilarious. The fact is that no matter how bad conspiracies are, they're free to use. I'd love to see a control player pick this up in order to play Counterspell-for-hire.
As much as I hate this being those colors, it's probably the most suitable. If anything, blue can probably be cut. I recognize that Dethrone was thrown in for extra intrigue, but it detracts from the main mechanic.
Woo the Grixis control deck now gets free, instant-speed Pelakka Wurms turn 3. If you still had to pay for it it *might* be balanced. It's a very cool idea though.
As much as I love the card, the costs make me uneasy.
If a curious 1/1 for 3 with flying is okay (let's say a Sturmgeist fixed at 1/1), then a spellshaper that makes them for 2U is okay. If you don't have to discard a card, it should cost more. But as soon as this dies, the tokens stop being curious, which makes it less valuable. 1U 1/2 with 3U activation? Hm.
WINNER: Atogaholic
HM: CC, ManyCookies
Next: Strive
[15:21] <@CC> Remember, if you argue, you are an idiot.
Untrophied Wins:
Perfect MCC Scores: 2
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Also you have my IIW but Atogaholic won (his challenge is "Tertiary")
This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move."
Comic Book Set
Archester: Frontier of Steam (A steampunk set!)
A Good Place to Start Designing
Instant (R)
Strive — Ascending Mindflare costs UR more to cast for each target beyond the first.
Any number of target player draws X cards then Ascending Mindflare deals X damage to him or her.
ok.. hmm.. what is Tertiary ? why do people like to give a very vague challenge :(.. i don't know where to start whenever i get a challenge like this..
ok then.. entry for Tertiary:
Cabal Mindgrab1BB
Instant (R)
When you cast Cabal Mindgrab, any player may pay 5 life. If a player does, counter Cabal Mindgrab.
Gain control of target creature until end of turn. Untap that creature. It gains haste until end of turn.
iiw: Futuristic Goblin Card
That's true, multiplayer is a self-balancing environment in a way. I'm not sure that matters enough though - either it drops too early for everyone to deal with it, or it drops late enough that it doesn't matter.
Oops. I'm sure he'll live.
Dual entry just in case:
Fevered Hate R
Sorcery {U}
Strive - Fevered Hate costs 1R more to cast for each target beyond the first.
Any number of target creatures each get +2/-2 until end of turn.
IIW: Bearded things.
[15:21] <@CC> Remember, if you argue, you are an idiot.
Untrophied Wins:
Perfect MCC Scores: 2
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Creature — Vampire Warrior (U)
When Markov Renegade enters the battlefield, you may sacrifice another creature. If you do, put a +1/+1 counter on Markov Renegade and it gains haste until end of turn.
Debauchery drove the vampires to the brink of madness. Desperation pushed them over the edge.
4/3
IIW: Infect.
Creature - Spirit Warrior (C)
Haste, frenzy 2
Draski warriors who fall outside fields of battle are doomed to fight on them forever.
1/2
IIW: Monohybrid (bonus points if you give it a good flavor)
Sorcery (R)
Destroy target creature if it's tapped. Otherwise, tap it.
////Fuse///
Tap 1B
Sorcery (R)
Destroy target creature if it's tapped. Otherwise, tap it.
Rule #2: Doubletap.
(For a safer variant, add a colorless mana to each side and make it uncommon)