Favored Champions
Creature- Human Warrior (M)
Whenever a permanent entering or leaving the battlefield would trigger an ability of a permanent, the controller of that permanent may pay . If you do or an opponent does not, choose one of the following instead:
That ability is not triggered.
That ability triggers twice.
5/4
So... the intent is to have an effect that taxes opponents to avoid having their ETBs/Death effects cancelled (or their bounceland ETBs doubled) while giving the player more control over their triggered abilities. Does the wording here actually work or does it infinitely loop upon itself (assuming sufficient mana is available)? If it's the latter, is there a wording that avoids that problem?
Was designed for a non-standard set like battlebond, if relevant.
I would simplify the payment to have it always be you paying. Currently there's a lot of different variables here and it could do with less to make it easier to comprehend and to play with. Also, reference should be Panharmonicon and Hushbringer for wording.
Favored Champions
Creature- Human Warrior (M)
If a permanent entering or leaving the battlefield would cause a triggered ability of a permanent to trigger, you may pay . If you do, choose one—
That ability does not trigger
That ability triggers an additional time.
5/4
As Panharmonicon doesn't loop, this shouldn't either.
I would also suggest making this a little cheaper and smaller to make it easier to use. The cost is a pretty significant restriction compared to Panharmonicon. This also comes with a body, but it's also more vulnerable to removal. A 4 mana 4/4 maybe.
It seems like you'd probably want to list it twice, once for yourself, and once for opponents. It would be wordy, but much more clear to understand.
It seems fine power level wise. It does quite a bit for a monocolor card. I'd consider restricting it to entering the battlefield, as leaving feels much more like a black area of the color pie. The card already does quite a bit. I do like it as is as well, even though the wording is a bit vague.
Yeah, I think that you both have a point. I wanted to see if having a single ability that punishes opponents for not paying a tax while rewarding you for paying the same tax would be grokkable, though I suppose it is not.
In the end, it would need to be something like this:
Favored Champions
Creature- Human Warrior (M)
If a permanent entering the battlefield would cause a triggered ability of a permanent to trigger, you may pay 2 mana . If you do, choose one—
That ability does not trigger
That ability triggers an additional time.
4/4
Do I need to use the word "instead" for the first ability as it is essentially working as a replacement ability in that instance (Unless I change it to "counter that triggered ability", which would be more Azorius)?
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Creature- Human Warrior (M)
Whenever a permanent entering or leaving the battlefield would trigger an ability of a permanent, the controller of that permanent may pay . If you do or an opponent does not, choose one of the following instead:
So... the intent is to have an effect that taxes opponents to avoid having their ETBs/Death effects cancelled (or their bounceland ETBs doubled) while giving the player more control over their triggered abilities. Does the wording here actually work or does it infinitely loop upon itself (assuming sufficient mana is available)? If it's the latter, is there a wording that avoids that problem?
Was designed for a non-standard set like battlebond, if relevant.
Favored Champions
Creature- Human Warrior (M)
If a permanent entering or leaving the battlefield would cause a triggered ability of a permanent to trigger, you may pay . If you do, choose one—
As Panharmonicon doesn't loop, this shouldn't either.
I would also suggest making this a little cheaper and smaller to make it easier to use. The cost is a pretty significant restriction compared to Panharmonicon. This also comes with a body, but it's also more vulnerable to removal. A 4 mana 4/4 maybe.
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It seems fine power level wise. It does quite a bit for a monocolor card. I'd consider restricting it to entering the battlefield, as leaving feels much more like a black area of the color pie. The card already does quite a bit. I do like it as is as well, even though the wording is a bit vague.
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In the end, it would need to be something like this:
Favored Champions
Creature- Human Warrior (M)
If a permanent entering the battlefield would cause a triggered ability of a permanent to trigger, you may pay 2 mana . If you do, choose one—
Do I need to use the word "instead" for the first ability as it is essentially working as a replacement ability in that instance (Unless I change it to "counter that triggered ability", which would be more Azorius)?