Portable Hole2U
Instant (Common)
Exile target artifact, creature or land you control, then return that card to the battlefield under your control. You may repeat this process once.
Rulings
- If you choose to repeat the process, you repeat the effect but do not get to pick a different target.
- Any abilities that trigger while Portable Hole is resolving will be put on the stack after it has completely resolved.
The idea is to get two "enters the battlefield" triggers from your permanent. For example, draw 4 cards from your Mulldrifter on the battlefield. (Or cast your Mulldrifter for it's evoke cost and cast this with the sacrifice trigger on the stack to draw 6 cards for 4UU.)
Rulings
- If you choose to repeat the process, you repeat the effect but do not get to pick a different target.
As a permanent leaves the battlefield and its card returns to the battlefield that card becomes a new permanent. As you correctly identify that you do not get to choose a new target, the spell just targets a permanent that no longer exists and the repeat won't do anything. You couldn't have chosen the new permanent as a target during the announcement of the spell since it didn't exist.
So repeating the process really doesn't do anything at all unless the first exile event gets somehow replaced by a one shot "The next time target permanent would be exiled/leave the battlefield, it isn't instead" effect that to my knowledge doesn't exist in canon Magic yet, but certainly has been proposed on custom cards. That's a narrow and obviously unintended use.
So changing the target might actually be what you want to do.
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When I saw the threads name, it really got my hopes up for an artifact or enchantment version of this. It sounds permanent.
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Would a wording like:
"Exile target creature you control, then return it to the battlefield under your control, then exile that creature and return it to the battlefield under your control"
Help?
You don't choose a new target and "that" referring to the creature returned to the battlefield could help circumvent the "cards returning to the battlefield are new permanents" clause.
"Exile target N you control, then return it to the battlefield under your control. When you return it to the battlefield in this way, exile it, then return it to the battlefield under your control."
Thanks to everyone for the wording help. Yes, using "target" doesn't work for the second go-round. I don't care for the proposed fixes, too wordy. I considered some kind of reflexive triggered ability like Hypothesizzle and "Choose an artifact, creature or land you control. Exile that card, then return it to the battlefield under your control." But I think the simplest and most elegant solution is:
Portable Hole2U
Instant (Common)
Exile an artifact, creature or land you control, then return that card to the battlefield under your control. Repeat this process once.
Rulings
- No player may take any actions between the two times you go through the process.
- Any abilities that trigger while Portable Hole is resolving will be put on the stack after it has completely resolved.
This will allow you to flicker the same permanent twice or flicker two different permanents (something I actually did want for the original card). I removed the "you may" repeat this process because I can't think of many instances where you wouldn't want to flicker a permanent twice (or flicker two permanents). Even if you're just flickering a permanent to dodge spot removal, such as Doom Blade or Shatter, flickering it twice will accomplish the same thing and won't prolong the game like repeated shuffling does.
Flavour has never been my strong suit, I much prefer mechanics and game play, so I'm open to suggestions for alternate card names/flavour. I thought the art I found fit the idea of hiding your permanent(s) for a turn (even if its looks like he's stealing someone else's gold).
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Portable Hole 2U
Instant (Common)
Exile target artifact, creature or land you control, then return that card to the battlefield under your control. You may repeat this process once.
Rulings
- If you choose to repeat the process, you repeat the effect but do not get to pick a different target.
- Any abilities that trigger while Portable Hole is resolving will be put on the stack after it has completely resolved.
The idea is to get two "enters the battlefield" triggers from your permanent. For example, draw 4 cards from your Mulldrifter on the battlefield. (Or cast your Mulldrifter for it's evoke cost and cast this with the sacrifice trigger on the stack to draw 6 cards for 4UU.)
As a permanent leaves the battlefield and its card returns to the battlefield that card becomes a new permanent. As you correctly identify that you do not get to choose a new target, the spell just targets a permanent that no longer exists and the repeat won't do anything. You couldn't have chosen the new permanent as a target during the announcement of the spell since it didn't exist.
So repeating the process really doesn't do anything at all unless the first exile event gets somehow replaced by a one shot "The next time target permanent would be exiled/leave the battlefield, it isn't instead" effect that to my knowledge doesn't exist in canon Magic yet, but certainly has been proposed on custom cards. That's a narrow and obviously unintended use.
So changing the target might actually be what you want to do.
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When I saw the threads name, it really got my hopes up for an artifact or enchantment version of this. It sounds permanent.
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"Exile target creature you control, then return it to the battlefield under your control, then exile that creature and return it to the battlefield under your control"
Help?
You don't choose a new target and "that" referring to the creature returned to the battlefield could help circumvent the "cards returning to the battlefield are new permanents" clause.
"Exile target N you control, then return it to the battlefield under your control. When you return it to the battlefield in this way, exile it, then return it to the battlefield under your control."
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Portable Hole 2U
Instant (Common)
Exile an artifact, creature or land you control, then return that card to the battlefield under your control. Repeat this process once.
Rulings
- No player may take any actions between the two times you go through the process.
- Any abilities that trigger while Portable Hole is resolving will be put on the stack after it has completely resolved.
This will allow you to flicker the same permanent twice or flicker two different permanents (something I actually did want for the original card). I removed the "you may" repeat this process because I can't think of many instances where you wouldn't want to flicker a permanent twice (or flicker two permanents). Even if you're just flickering a permanent to dodge spot removal, such as Doom Blade or Shatter, flickering it twice will accomplish the same thing and won't prolong the game like repeated shuffling does.
Flavour has never been my strong suit, I much prefer mechanics and game play, so I'm open to suggestions for alternate card names/flavour. I thought the art I found fit the idea of hiding your permanent(s) for a turn (even if its looks like he's stealing someone else's gold).