A game for 7 players
2 mafia, 5 town
no nights, no voting.
once per day, each player may attempt to daykill another by bolding shoot: ____
the first shot of each day has a 1/6 chance of hitting. the second 1/5. then 1/4, 1/3, 1/2, 1/1
when a player is killed, the day ends
if all living players have shot and no one dies, they may shoot again with probabilities still going up
1. DV
2. Dotarchon 3. Megiddo - shot day 2
4. Iso 5. Stinkyjoeterry - shot day 3 6. Osiorb - shot day 1
7. bur
/replace:
1. vaimes
2. azrael
/spectate
1. Shadow
2. silver
Dont be dicks
Dont cheat
If you have questions about following these rules, HMU
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Ok, Scum A shoots Scum B with the first shot of the day there is only a 16.6% percent chance they kill them, if they miss they create distance (Good), if they hit they just shot scum and get instant town credit (Great!). Anyways, that's what I'd do.
Analyzing the first shot is pretty WIFOM though; it's effectively RVS since we all know nothing. Like, the town has only a 5.6% chance of killing scum on the first shot at random. So it's NAI to kill scum first shot.
Analyzing the first shot is pretty WIFOM though; it's effectively RVS since we all know nothing. Like, the town has only a 5.6% chance of killing scum on the first shot at random. So it's NAI to kill scum first shot.
That's why I'm saying scum will spend their shots on each other early. I guess it's a bit WIFOM, but I was just thinking about how I would play it as scum.
D_V: Talk to me bud. Iso: Why Meg? (apart from the obvious "because Meg ") Osieorb: You talk about not analysing the first shot because WIFOM/RVS etc. but, not counting Iso's mistake you took the first shot without any provocation/evidence to support it. If you had gotten it right and killed town?Iso then what? "Oops, lol?" Terry: You've done the math obviously, what are your thoughts on when it's best for town to fire?
tomsloger: Can you confirm, deny or plead the 5th on whether or not scum have any form of chat?
D_V: Talk to me bud. Iso: Why Meg? (apart from the obvious "because Meg ") Osieorb: You talk about not analysing the first shot because WIFOM/RVS etc. but, not counting Iso's mistake you took the first shot without any provocation/evidence to support it. If you had gotten it right and killed town?Iso then what? "Oops, lol?" Terry: You've done the math obviously, what are your thoughts on when it's best for town to fire?
tomsloger: Can you confirm, deny or plead the 5th on whether or not scum have any form of chat?
Terry: You've done the math obviously, what are your thoughts on when it's best for town to fire?
I get that this is a fun format, but it is still mafia at the core. We need to analyze players and not just running around shooting people. Maybe we should actually implement a voting system where we decide as a town who gets shot and we shoot them until they are dead?
Terry: You've done the math obviously, what are your thoughts on when it's best for town to fire?
I get that this is a fun format, but it is still mafia at the core. We need to analyze players and not just running around shooting people. Maybe we should actually implement a voting system where we decide as a town who gets shot and we shoot them until they are dead?
I think I like this suggestion?
(Also, TFW you open the thread for the first time and it's already D2)
@DoTA: Why osie? And why shoot him before letting him respond to your points?
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Terry: You've done the math obviously, what are your thoughts on when it's best for town to fire?
I get that this is a fun format, but it is still mafia at the core. We need to analyze players and not just running around shooting people. Maybe we should actually implement a voting system where we decide as a town who gets shot and we shoot them until they are dead?
I think I like this suggestion?
(Also, TFW you open the thread for the first time and it's already D2)
@DoTA: Why osie? And why shoot him before letting him respond to your points?
I had a 75% chance of testing his reaction to my attempt(which is what I expected to happen) and a 25% chance that the shot would go through and I'd take out someone I had a suspicion of. In terms of a response, I couldn't think of any reason town would blindly fire within their first post. Between Iso and Osieorb I decided to take a crack at Osieorb first since a)TownIso shooting at Meg "for the lulz" would not surprise me and b) I've played with Iso before and not with Osieorb. I shot at the unknown quantity first.
Terry: You've done the math obviously, what are your thoughts on when it's best for town to fire?
I get that this is a fun format, but it is still mafia at the core. We need to analyze players and not just running around shooting people. Maybe we should actually implement a voting system where we decide as a town who gets shot and we shoot them until they are dead?
While this is something I also considered I see a fundamental flaw in this idea. Look at any regular game and you'll always have a town block who agree on a lynch, some outliers who have their reasons for voting elsewhere, and the scum trying to blend into these two groups. There's no way you'll get 100% buy in from town to all target the same person without seeing heavy evidence to support the "lynch" and all it takes is for an outlier to shoot later in the queue at someone else and mess the whole thing up. While I agree that discussion is important we'll need to figure out a different method to approach the shots IMO. I don't know if forming a target pool of two people for everyone to decide between would work, or maybe someone can suggest another alternative?
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Why shoot Megs and not me, DV?
Literally nothing happened between your "I might shoot Bur" and you shooting Megs.
He quoted me out of the Anime thread.
I was offended.
But really removing Megs from DV's tinfoil reads seemed solid and I really just wanted to generate reactions/didn't expect day one shot to actually hit.
Why shoot Megs and not me, DV?
Literally nothing happened between your "I might shoot Bur" and you shooting Megs.
He quoted me out of the Anime thread.
I was offended.
But really removing Megs from DV's tinfoil reads seemed solid and I really just wanted to generate reactions/didn't expect day one shot to actually hit.
But he hadn't even posted in the game yet...
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Bur
D_V
DoTArchon
Iso
Stinkyjoeterry Megiddo - Town Osiorb - Town
So we're at 3T-2M, but with shots being random I'm assuming LyLo does not apply in this game.
@EVERYONE: PLEASE DO NOT SHOOT UNTIL THIS IS ANSWERED
@tom: Can we end up in a 2T-2M/1T-2M/1T-1M scenario?
Obviously, scum shoot at scum ASAP to minimize risk and create distance, but I will not shoot unless shot at.
Something I forgot to ask earlier, why those three? Osi and Iso had made a few posts by that point but there was nothing from Megiddo so why add him to that list?
Obviously, scum shoot at scum ASAP to minimize risk and create distance, but I will not shoot unless shot at.
Something I forgot to ask earlier, why those three? Osi and Iso had made a few posts by that point but there was nothing from Megiddo so why add him to that list?
Obviously, scum shoot at scum ASAP to minimize risk and create distance, but I will not shoot unless shot at.
Something I forgot to ask earlier, why those three? Osi and Iso had made a few posts by that point but there was nothing from Megiddo so why add him to that list?
Osi shot ISO, ISO shot Megidoo, so according to my scum shoot early at scum theory, all three were suspect
2 mafia, 5 town
no nights, no voting.
once per day, each player may attempt to daykill another by bolding shoot: ____
the first shot of each day has a 1/6 chance of hitting. the second 1/5. then 1/4, 1/3, 1/2, 1/1
when a player is killed, the day ends
if all living players have shot and no one dies, they may shoot again with probabilities still going up
2. Dotarchon
3. Megiddo- shot day 24. Iso
5. Stinkyjoeterry- shot day 36. Osiorb- shot day 17. bur
1. vaimes
2. azrael
/spectate
1. Shadow
2. silver
Dont cheat
If you have questions about following these rules, HMU
pew pew
you know what you did
also I'm town
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Game on. You may now post/shoot.
Also something about being town.
shoot Megiddo
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
But as we all know, Iso lies. And you're always scum.
In other news, I finished my pulled pork.
@Tom: You should change the thread title.
Finger Gun of Suspicion: Osi, Iso, Megiddo
Obviously, scum shoot at scum ASAP to minimize risk and create distance, but I will not shoot unless shot at.
Remaining shots:
bur
Dotarchon
DV
Megiddo
Stinkyjoeterry
Actually, scum this game could probably just lurk to try and use a more definite shot.
???????
But it's not realistic in the early game; if every shot was random, and scum shoots last, then scum has a 76% chance of surviving.
why do you suspect Megiddo
The implication was that he should shoot who I'm shooting.
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
(Assuming my math was correct.)
Shoot: Osieorb
D_V: Talk to me bud.
Iso: Why Meg? (apart from the obvious "because Meg ")
Osieorb: You talk about not analysing the first shot because WIFOM/RVS etc. but, not counting Iso's mistake you took the first shot without any provocation/evidence to support it. If you had gotten it right and killed town?Iso then what? "Oops, lol?"
Terry: You've done the math obviously, what are your thoughts on when it's best for town to fire?
tomsloger: Can you confirm, deny or plead the 5th on whether or not scum have any form of chat?
It is now Day 2. You may post/shoot
I think I like this suggestion?
(Also, TFW you open the thread for the first time and it's already D2)
@DoTA: Why osie? And why shoot him before letting him respond to your points?
I had a 75% chance of testing his reaction to my attempt(which is what I expected to happen) and a 25% chance that the shot would go through and I'd take out someone I had a suspicion of. In terms of a response, I couldn't think of any reason town would blindly fire within their first post. Between Iso and Osieorb I decided to take a crack at Osieorb first since a)TownIso shooting at Meg "for the lulz" would not surprise me and b) I've played with Iso before and not with Osieorb. I shot at the unknown quantity first.
While this is something I also considered I see a fundamental flaw in this idea. Look at any regular game and you'll always have a town block who agree on a lynch, some outliers who have their reasons for voting elsewhere, and the scum trying to blend into these two groups. There's no way you'll get 100% buy in from town to all target the same person without seeing heavy evidence to support the "lynch" and all it takes is for an outlier to shoot later in the queue at someone else and mess the whole thing up. While I agree that discussion is important we'll need to figure out a different method to approach the shots IMO. I don't know if forming a target pool of two people for everyone to decide between would work, or maybe someone can suggest another alternative?
I think Dotas town.
I dislike Burs questions.
Might attempt to shoot in the next few hours on Bur.
Megs you know what this is about.
Shoot Megiddo
It is now Day 3. You may post/shoot
Why shoot Megs and not me, DV?
Literally nothing happened between your "I might shoot Bur" and you shooting Megs.
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
He quoted me out of the Anime thread.
I was offended.
But really removing Megs from DV's tinfoil reads seemed solid and I really just wanted to generate reactions/didn't expect day one shot to actually hit.
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Bur
D_V
DoTArchon
Iso
Stinkyjoeterry
Megiddo- TownOsiorb- TownSo we're at 3T-2M, but with shots being random I'm assuming LyLo does not apply in this game.
@EVERYONE: PLEASE DO NOT SHOOT UNTIL THIS IS ANSWERED
@tom: Can we end up in a 2T-2M/1T-2M/1T-1M scenario?
osi > iso > miss
iso > megs > miss
dota > osi > HIT (town)
Day 2
dv > megs > HIT (town)
Day 3
iso > dv > miss
dota
dv
iso*
joe
* - has shot today
Finger Gun Of Suspicion: DV
WTF was that shot, he had no posts and you said you were going to shoot bur. Bur your buddy?